What are YOU gonna do w/ your $600.00?

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  • jdhdiggs
    jdhdiggs Posts: 4,305
    edited January 2008
    I hope so. If that's the case, I am so in!:p


    Me too, it's the only way we'll see a dime. $600, hmm Maybe a new CD player or fix up the jeep a bit more....
    There is no genuine justice in any scheme of feeding and coddling the loafer whose only ponderable energies are devoted wholly to reproduction. Nine-tenths of the rights he bellows for are really privileges and he does nothing to deserve them. We not only acquired a vast population of morons, we have inculcated all morons, old or young, with the doctrine that the decent and industrious people of the country are bound to support them for all time.-Menkin
  • wingnut4772
    wingnut4772 Posts: 7,519
    edited January 2008
    jdhdiggs wrote: »
    Me too, it's the only way we'll see a dime. $600, hmm Maybe a new CD player or fix up the jeep a bit more....

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  • rskarvan
    rskarvan Posts: 2,374
    edited January 2008
    I'm going to use the $600 the FED government gives the wife and I back and use it to offset the $600 increase in State Property Tax increases.

    Net gain: ZERO!!!
  • Strong Bad
    Strong Bad Posts: 4,277
    edited January 2008
    dragon1952 wrote: »
    You know, the majority in this country don't make any where near $75K single earner. That's a freaking pipe dream for most people. Even in S. Cal. That's a tad less than my wife and I earned each before we retired and that was way, way, way more than the average , even in that high cost area. That's why only about 20% of the married couples could qualify for a mortgage. To say that is any where near minimum wage is ludicrous, arrogant, condescending and a bunch of other nasty things considering minimum wage is lucky to be ..what $8.50. Someone making even $10 is only making a little over 20K per year. Anybody that thinks $75K is minimum wage territory is extremely out of touch with reality.

    Right on!

    $75k for a single person in my neck of the woods is doing pretty damn good and it'll go far. Of course people in the big cities are going to say it's not much, because yeah, it won't cut it.

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  • AsSiMiLaTeD
    AsSiMiLaTeD Posts: 11,725
    edited January 2008
    So is this all set in stone, or is it still being discussed? Local news this morning said that it still had to be approved by Congress, so all this talk may be much ado about nothing?
  • Disc Jockey
    Disc Jockey Posts: 1,013
    edited January 2008
    IIRC, it goes to the House next weeek and the Senate after that for approval
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  • Demiurge
    Demiurge Posts: 10,874
    edited January 2008
    Polkmaniac wrote: »
    So is this all set in stone, or is it still being discussed? Local news this morning said that it still had to be approved by Congress, so all this talk may be much ado about nothing?

    It's a 2 party agreement, there's no way it's not going to happen.

    Any elected person standing in the way of giving the dopey masses their/our money that's been reported on all week will end in them getting bounced out of office the next time they run.

    The only argument that was had was about how much and who would get it.
  • Sami
    Sami Posts: 4,634
    edited January 2008
    Demiurge wrote: »
    Yes, 75K (Single) or 150K (Couple). :rolleyes:

    Good to know, I wouldn't get it but since this is the first year filing as married at least we get some of the "marriage penalty" back.
  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,951
    edited January 2008
    Still just a patch for the bigger issues of the economy.But like the greedy SOB that I am,I'll take it.Seeing how much big brother has shoved it up my back side in the past,and most likely,in the future too.Probably save it for a trip this fall out to Napa for the wifes 40th.
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited January 2008
    That cap is ****.
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,951
    edited January 2008
    Face wrote: »
    That cap is ****.

    Well,if they had no cap,gave it to millionairs,then it would be "labeled" as tax cuts for the rich.Republicans want to avoid that stigma.Of coarse they are working off a very deluginal view of what is considered "rich".
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited January 2008
    Ok, I should have been clearer with my statement. The cap should be higher, try owning anything on Long Island or in NYC on 75k.
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  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,536
    edited January 2008
    It's going in my "Vegas Live 2008 Tour" fund. Yeah baby!
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,951
    edited January 2008
    I guess in there eye's,if you live in those area's....your rich.

    When both my wife an I had 6 figure incomes,we spent alot also.Uncle Sam took alot too and at the end of the year,I still had to write a check for 10 g's.I vowed never again.Funny how you adjust to your income level.Have just as much disposable income now as I did then.Thats the key,disposable income.Some people I know make 200 g's a year and are broke as can be.You can make half that and actually be "richer".When you define "rich" purely by income level,doesn't matter where you live or how you spend it.
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  • rskarvan
    rskarvan Posts: 2,374
    edited January 2008
    I like the fact that they put an income cap on the tax savings. Nice Robin Hood effect!

    My economics professor once told me... "corporate profits are a measure of the exploitation of the worker". The same professor said that "income from speculation has a negative effect on the GDP... because, if you can earn money speculating instead of doing real work, then what incentive is there for one to produce?"
  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,951
    edited January 2008
    Thats not true Ron,you don't have to exploit anyone to turn a profit.


    Speculation can direct a corporation in one direction or another,leading to better profits..or less for that matter.
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  • Shizelbs
    Shizelbs Posts: 7,433
    edited January 2008
    jdhdiggs wrote: »
    Me, I'm just pissed at the whole premise of taxes: Take money from Americans under the threat of force and give it to other Americans who didn't earn it... You know, to me it sounds more like theft....

    What do mean sounds like? It is theft.

    I'd be a whole lot easier to tolerate if they used the money properly.
  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,951
    edited January 2008
    There in lies the problem.....what to do with all the dead beats in this country? Pay them?Let them die? Or put the money into programs to teach these people a skill and how to become a productive citizen.To me,the only people that deserve freebie's are the Elderly,and handicapped.
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  • Shizelbs
    Shizelbs Posts: 7,433
    edited January 2008
    How about we create more policies and a strong economy that will give dead beats incentives to be less dead-beaty? Just a thought.
  • PhantomOG
    PhantomOG Posts: 2,409
    edited January 2008
    Dead beats will be dead beats. Watching the democratic debate the other night I laughed when someone said they wanted to *end* poverty. Sorry, but there is no end to poverty because some people just don't give a damn and no amount of everyone else's money will ever change that.
  • Shizelbs
    Shizelbs Posts: 7,433
    edited January 2008
    Who even says that?! What candidate, citizen even, wouldn't like to end poverty?! Is there someone really sitting at home thinking, 'boy, I'ma gon' vote for them, cause they want to end poverty'. WTF? Are there really that many stupid Americans out there?

    I'm going to run for president on a platform of no wars, no poverty, no disease, no taxes and free HDTVs for all.
  • wingnut4772
    wingnut4772 Posts: 7,519
    edited January 2008
    PhantomOG wrote: »
    Dead beats will be dead beats. Watching the democratic debate the other night I laughed when someone said they wanted to *end* poverty. Sorry, but there is no end to poverty because some people just don't give a damn and no amount of everyone else's money will ever change that.

    Amen! That was John Edwards BTW.
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  • bobman1235
    bobman1235 Posts: 10,822
    edited January 2008
    Sure you COULD end poverty, it just involves slavery of everyone who DOES work.
    If you will it, dude, it is no dream.
  • pmckeealaska
    pmckeealaska Posts: 808
    edited January 2008
    Probably going to pay off credit card debts with it myself. Sad to say, but we're borrowing this money from the Chinese and many will probably go out and buy Chinese goods with it, so they win either way!

    On another note, we Alaskans are also going to get a $1000 "energy rebate" check from the state government at about the same time the federal check arrives. Due to high oil prices, the state has soemthing like a $4 billion surplus and they say the checks are to help offset rising energy prices, but it's really just a gimme from the state.
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  • Demiurge
    Demiurge Posts: 10,874
    edited January 2008
    Shizelbs wrote: »
    Are there really that many stupid Americans out there?

    YES!

    It's just class warfare, nothing new. There is no end to poverty. There has always been a lower, middle, and upper class and there always will be. We've got one half of the country eager for Socialism where we make everyone equally miserable. An ideology that's done nothing but fail every time it's tried.

    People just need to stop making **** choices and start taking responsibility when they do make them. I have no sympathy for a couple who sprays out a bunch of kids that they can't afford. They're not my responsibilty.
    rskarvan wrote: »
    I like the fact that they put an income cap on the tax savings. Nice Robin Hood effect!

    My economics professor once told me... "corporate profits are a measure of the exploitation of the worker". The same professor said that "income from speculation has a negative effect on the GDP... because, if you can earn money speculating instead of doing real work, then what incentive is there for one to produce?"

    Your economics professor sounds like a moron. Given the types who run the education system these days I'm not exactly surprised at the comments.

    The very notion you think you're more of a "worker" than someone else is a joke.

    Welfare spending doesn't stimulate the economy.

    If a recession is actually on it's way (which I don't think it is) the "rebates" do nothing anyway.

    Regardless of what any of you here make, I'm willing to bet everyone here pays taxes in to the federal government. You should be outraged that 30% of the people receiving checks are going to go to people that never paid in one thin dime in.
  • Shizelbs
    Shizelbs Posts: 7,433
    edited January 2008
    Demiurge wrote: »
    People just need to stop making **** choices and start taking responsibility when they do make them. I have no sympathy for a couple who sprays out a bunch of kids that they can't afford. They're not my responsibilty.

    Ugh, don't even get me started on this. Occasionally we get people coming in for their prescriptions for them and their litter of children. Then they proceed to hand me not one, but two welfare coupons, in that they have had too many children for all the names to fit on one coupon. You'd F'ing think that before they hit kid 7 they'd reason they were having a hard time providing for them and that maybe someone needs to keep their knees together a little more often.
  • rskarvan
    rskarvan Posts: 2,374
    edited January 2008
    Shizelbs wrote: »
    Ugh, don't even get me started on this. Occasionally we get people coming in for their prescriptions for them and their litter of children. Then they proceed to hand me not one, but two welfare coupons, in that they have had too many children for all the names to fit on one coupon. You'd F'ing think that before they hit kid 7 they'd reason they were having a hard time providing for them and that maybe someone needs to keep their knees together a little more often.

    Those welfare Mom's worked hard to deserve those handouts.... pregnancy is their labor and their children are their contribution to society.;)
  • Music Joe
    Music Joe Posts: 459
    edited January 2008
    Ricardo wrote: »
    Someone could confuse this with buying votes if it was an election year......

    :D we think alike.
  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,951
    edited January 2008
    Buying votes?? Could be...why the Dems. are on board.
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,137
    edited January 2008
    bobman1235 wrote: »
    I love that when the gov't gives us our own money back we treat it as a gift.

    Good doggies.

    Yep this band-aid is going to be short lived. I'd rather see them give a tax break to small businesses and moderately large businesses so they can invest back in their business and have more jobs become availible.

    Does anyone realize that this $600 is going to all Americans even non-tax paying Americans? 40% of Amercans don't pay taxes.