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  • reeltrouble1
    reeltrouble1 Posts: 9,312
    edited September 2007
    yea, but she can say "light bulb" and turn my ticket anyday........

    hehehehehe

    once you get the cleaning machine I suspect things will be much better

    RT1
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  • wingnut4772
    wingnut4772 Posts: 7,519
    edited September 2007
    reeltrouble1 wrote: »
    yea, but she can say "light bulb" and turn my ticket anyday........

    hehehehehe

    once you get the cleaning machine I suspect things will be much better

    RT1

    I spoke to my dealer and we adjusted the 'anti skating' device and it's better but not dead quiet. He assured me that we will get there or I can bring it back. He sold me a brand new VPI cleaner for $450.00 as well so I went ahead and got it from him. I should get it on Thursday.

    I will say that even with these snafus...Vinyl sounds so much better than cd. I can't wait till I have it dialed in.

    Edit: Picking up the VPI tomorrow
    Sharp Elite 70
    Anthem D2V 3D
    Parasound 5250
    Parasound HCA 1000 A
    Parasound HCA 1000
    Oppo BDP 95
    Von Schweikert VR4 Jr R/L Fronts
    Von Schweikert LCR 4 Center
    Totem Mask Surrounds X4
    Hsu ULS-15 Quad Drive Subwoofers
    Sony PS3
    Squeezebox Touch

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  • wingnut4772
    wingnut4772 Posts: 7,519
    edited September 2007
    Actually upon further listening, the Arcade Fire album is snappy poppy too. Sigh. I may have to drive up to Holywood tomorrow.
    Sharp Elite 70
    Anthem D2V 3D
    Parasound 5250
    Parasound HCA 1000 A
    Parasound HCA 1000
    Oppo BDP 95
    Von Schweikert VR4 Jr R/L Fronts
    Von Schweikert LCR 4 Center
    Totem Mask Surrounds X4
    Hsu ULS-15 Quad Drive Subwoofers
    Sony PS3
    Squeezebox Touch

    Polk Atrium 7s on the patio just to keep my foot in the door.
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  • wingnut4772
    wingnut4772 Posts: 7,519
    edited September 2007
    Ok. So tomorrow I go to pick up my VPI cleaner and have Larry double check my player and Dynavector with these albums. On the plus side my handpicked by Albert Von Schweikert himself tweeters are sounding very special.
    Sharp Elite 70
    Anthem D2V 3D
    Parasound 5250
    Parasound HCA 1000 A
    Parasound HCA 1000
    Oppo BDP 95
    Von Schweikert VR4 Jr R/L Fronts
    Von Schweikert LCR 4 Center
    Totem Mask Surrounds X4
    Hsu ULS-15 Quad Drive Subwoofers
    Sony PS3
    Squeezebox Touch

    Polk Atrium 7s on the patio just to keep my foot in the door.
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  • Ricardo
    Ricardo Posts: 10,636
    edited September 2007
    wingnut4772 wrote: »
    Ok. So tomorrow I go to pick up my VPI cleaner and have Larry double check my player and Dynavector with these albums. On the plus side my handpicked by Albert Von Schweikert himself tweeters are sounding very special.

    No better way to test tweeters than with a bunch of cracks & pops :p

    I'm sure they will fix it; and then, you're doomed :)
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  • cmy330go
    cmy330go Posts: 2,341
    edited September 2007
    That much crackle from new vinyl seems a little odd. Are you certain you have a good solid ground connection?

    Congrats on the cleaner! You'll love it.
    HT
    Mits WD-65737, DirecTV, Oppo DV-970HD, XBOX ONE, Yamaha RX-A1030, Parasound Halo A23, Rotel RB-985, Music Hall MMF-7, Parasound PPH-100, LSi-15, LSi-C, LSi-FX, LSi-7, PSW-1000, Monster HTS2600

    2 CH
    Parasound Halo P3, Parasound Halo A21, Sutherland Ph.D, VPI Classic 3 w/ 3D arm & Soundsmith Aida Cartridge, Arcam CD72T, B&W 802 S3, Monster HTS2500,
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,137
    edited September 2007
    It sounds to me that the zenith of the cartridge is off; one way to tell is if the noise is more prevelant in one channel or not. I wouldn't waste one more second Darla, take it back to the dealer and have them start from scratch and rebuild the table, tonearm and cartriges settings.

    PLEASE MAKE ABSOLUTELY SURE that all you have to do with the table when you get home is to make sure it is level.

    PS: All new and used records should be given a treatment of MFSL Super Deep cleaning fluid. Madmax knows it by another name. This stuff removes ALL of the mold release compounds that Ted spoke of and if you buy a used LP you will ensure with this particular cleaner that all the nasties that have accumulated over the years will be floated out of those gooves. I would then give the record a dose of MFSL Super Record wash and the finish it with VPI record cleaning fluid.

    Seems a bit extreme doesn't it but I assure you, once you do this to an LP you never have to do it again and that record will give you manys years of enjoyment.

    I have records that I purchased when I was in my teens, many, many moons ago, that I took care of and they still sound awesome.

    One other thought. Vinyl is very prone to mold and is very susceptible to it. There is a product out there call Vinyl-Zyme Gold. This stuff is incredible. It is $50 for a 2 oz bottle of concentrate, it makes four gallons. I would use this on all my new and used records before the MFSL Super Deep cleaner stage.

    This all sounds like one big pain-in-the-buttocks but it only has to be done once per record. After that, it take one minute tops to clean an already treated LP.

    This is what I do with all my LPs and they will last forever. If you have any questions about what I've written please PM me.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,557
    edited September 2007
    I pop a shiny silver or gold disc in the tray, push play and kick back.......Norah sounds great on SACD :D
    Political Correctness'.........defined

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  • wingnut4772
    wingnut4772 Posts: 7,519
    edited September 2007
    F1nut wrote: »
    I pop a shiny silver or gold disc in the tray, push play and kick back.......Norah sounds great on SACD :D

    She sounds better on vinyl. You will see. :p Tomorrow I will be posting about the blissful pop free sounds....
    Sharp Elite 70
    Anthem D2V 3D
    Parasound 5250
    Parasound HCA 1000 A
    Parasound HCA 1000
    Oppo BDP 95
    Von Schweikert VR4 Jr R/L Fronts
    Von Schweikert LCR 4 Center
    Totem Mask Surrounds X4
    Hsu ULS-15 Quad Drive Subwoofers
    Sony PS3
    Squeezebox Touch

    Polk Atrium 7s on the patio just to keep my foot in the door.
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  • wingnut4772
    wingnut4772 Posts: 7,519
    edited September 2007
    HTrookie wrote: »
    No better way to test tweeters than with a bunch of cracks & pops :p

    I'm sure they will fix it; and then, you're doomed :)

    LOL. I am also listening to cd's and SACD.
    Sharp Elite 70
    Anthem D2V 3D
    Parasound 5250
    Parasound HCA 1000 A
    Parasound HCA 1000
    Oppo BDP 95
    Von Schweikert VR4 Jr R/L Fronts
    Von Schweikert LCR 4 Center
    Totem Mask Surrounds X4
    Hsu ULS-15 Quad Drive Subwoofers
    Sony PS3
    Squeezebox Touch

    Polk Atrium 7s on the patio just to keep my foot in the door.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,557
    edited September 2007
    wingnut4772 wrote: »
    She sounds better on vinyl. You will see. :p Tomorrow I will be posting about the blissful pop free sounds....

    Yeah, yeah.....the problem is your SACD player if the LP sounds better.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

    President of Club Polk

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  • wingnut4772
    wingnut4772 Posts: 7,519
    edited September 2007
    F1nut wrote: »
    Yeah, yeah.....the problem is your SACD player if the LP sounds better.

    Suuuuure it is:D




    What I like most so far about the promise of what I am hearing (anyway) is NO DIGITAL GLARE. Chicks are really sensitive to that. When I get this all ironed out I will try to convert Cathy!:D
    Sharp Elite 70
    Anthem D2V 3D
    Parasound 5250
    Parasound HCA 1000 A
    Parasound HCA 1000
    Oppo BDP 95
    Von Schweikert VR4 Jr R/L Fronts
    Von Schweikert LCR 4 Center
    Totem Mask Surrounds X4
    Hsu ULS-15 Quad Drive Subwoofers
    Sony PS3
    Squeezebox Touch

    Polk Atrium 7s on the patio just to keep my foot in the door.
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,137
    edited September 2007
    My new cartridge makes snaps, crackle and pop, ticks or surface noise a thing of the past. I can't believe how quiet my records are now. My wife said it sounds like a CD. F1Nut when you come again, I'll lay a pillow on the floor so your jaw doesn't get bruised. . . you too Pearsall001!
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  • Ricardo
    Ricardo Posts: 10,636
    edited September 2007
    wingnut4772 wrote: »
    When I get this all ironed out I will try to convert Cathy!:D

    Sure; Cathy will go to vinyl right after she gets some tube gear....;)
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,137
    edited September 2007
    HTrookie wrote: »
    Sure; Cathy will go to vinyl right after she gets some tube gear....;)

    . . . tubed amp rated at 8 watts per channel!:D
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,557
    edited September 2007
    From the owner of Water Lilly Records in the article Ken linked, "Kavi Alexander >
    I was very surprised and so were my diehard tube-loving friends on how good the new hi-rez PCM and DSD sounds. This new generation of digital gear definitely has better dynamic range than analog, a very important consideration when recording symphonic music."

    To be fair, he also states that he prefers LP's for his personal listening.



    BTW, I don't have any digital glare with my set up. It's not the format, but what's being used for playback and also the recording. I've heard vinyl that sounds good and vinyl that has made me run out of the room.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

    President of Club Polk

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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,137
    edited September 2007
    F1nut wrote: »
    I've heard vinyl that sounds good and vinyl that has made me run out of the room.

    That goes both ways. . . e.g. Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders from Mars.
    Great LP, great SACD, horrible ear bleaching CD.

    I can't argue with the convenience of CD/SACDs.
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  • wingnut4772
    wingnut4772 Posts: 7,519
    edited September 2007
    F1nut wrote: »
    From the owner of Water Lilly Records in the article Ken linked, "Kavi Alexander >
    I was very surprised and so were my diehard tube-loving friends on how good the new hi-rez PCM and DSD sounds. This new generation of digital gear definitely has better dynamic range than analog, a very important consideration when recording symphonic music."

    To be fair, he also states that he prefers LP's for his personal listening.

    Actually I do agree that it could be a myriad of things but I think I will draw the line at $1000.00 for my SACD player (Pioneer Elite 79avi) although I did not pay that for it. I think that dollar for dollar I have a fair comparison with my gear with my TT set up also retailing for a little over 1k. Now if you plug in a more expensive SACD player would it beat the sound of my Rega P2/Dynavector TT? Maybe so. (assuming I get it snag free)

    Right now I am listening to Diana Krall Live in Paris redbook and it sounds excellent. I think the SACD of Norah Jones' 'Come Away With Me' may leave a lot to be desired.
    Sharp Elite 70
    Anthem D2V 3D
    Parasound 5250
    Parasound HCA 1000 A
    Parasound HCA 1000
    Oppo BDP 95
    Von Schweikert VR4 Jr R/L Fronts
    Von Schweikert LCR 4 Center
    Totem Mask Surrounds X4
    Hsu ULS-15 Quad Drive Subwoofers
    Sony PS3
    Squeezebox Touch

    Polk Atrium 7s on the patio just to keep my foot in the door.
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  • wingnut4772
    wingnut4772 Posts: 7,519
    edited September 2007
    HTrookie wrote: »
    Sure; Cathy will go to vinyl right after she gets some tube gear....;)

    I don't see myself getting any tube gear either. I don't care for stuff I have heard and I doubt that Cathy will unless they come 200 watts per channel.:D
    Sharp Elite 70
    Anthem D2V 3D
    Parasound 5250
    Parasound HCA 1000 A
    Parasound HCA 1000
    Oppo BDP 95
    Von Schweikert VR4 Jr R/L Fronts
    Von Schweikert LCR 4 Center
    Totem Mask Surrounds X4
    Hsu ULS-15 Quad Drive Subwoofers
    Sony PS3
    Squeezebox Touch

    Polk Atrium 7s on the patio just to keep my foot in the door.
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,137
    edited September 2007
    Here is a link to my post on cleaning vinyl with the various fluids using the VPI 16.5 record cleaning machine.

    I may have refined some of the methods since posting this, but it will get you started.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,557
    edited September 2007
    wingnut4772 wrote: »
    I don't see myself getting any tube gear either. I don't care for stuff I have heard and I doubt that Cathy will unless they come 200 watts per channel.:D


    No problem, 500 watts of all tube power....http://www.manleylabs.com/containerpages/500_Y2K.html
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

    President of Club Polk

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  • engtaz
    engtaz Posts: 7,663
    edited September 2007
    Now that's what Cathy's talking about.
    engtaz

    I love how music can brighten up a bad day.
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  • wingnut4772
    wingnut4772 Posts: 7,519
    edited September 2007
    F1nut wrote: »
    No problem, 500 watts of all tube power....http://www.manleylabs.com/containerpages/500_Y2K.html


    MANLEY amps!!!:D
    Sharp Elite 70
    Anthem D2V 3D
    Parasound 5250
    Parasound HCA 1000 A
    Parasound HCA 1000
    Oppo BDP 95
    Von Schweikert VR4 Jr R/L Fronts
    Von Schweikert LCR 4 Center
    Totem Mask Surrounds X4
    Hsu ULS-15 Quad Drive Subwoofers
    Sony PS3
    Squeezebox Touch

    Polk Atrium 7s on the patio just to keep my foot in the door.
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  • madmax
    madmax Posts: 12,434
    edited September 2007
    A nice tube phono pre will be a nice upgrade down the line. As for 200wpc, you won't need more than 50wpc tube power to sound just as powerful. 200 to 500w tube power is just unreal.
    madmax
    Vinyl, the final frontier...

    Avantgarde horns, 300b tubes, thats the kinda crap I want... :D
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  • madmax
    madmax Posts: 12,434
    edited September 2007
    hearingimpared wrote: »
    My wife said it sounds like a CD.

    Do you still talk to her? :D
    madmax
    Vinyl, the final frontier...

    Avantgarde horns, 300b tubes, thats the kinda crap I want... :D
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,137
    edited September 2007
    madmax wrote: »
    Do you still talk to her? :D
    madmax

    LOL! She meant how quiet it is.;)
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  • cmy330go
    cmy330go Posts: 2,341
    edited September 2007
    If I had two 500w tube amps I'd be able to just tear out my furnace and call it good.
    HT
    Mits WD-65737, DirecTV, Oppo DV-970HD, XBOX ONE, Yamaha RX-A1030, Parasound Halo A23, Rotel RB-985, Music Hall MMF-7, Parasound PPH-100, LSi-15, LSi-C, LSi-FX, LSi-7, PSW-1000, Monster HTS2600

    2 CH
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  • madmax
    madmax Posts: 12,434
    edited September 2007
    cmy330go wrote: »
    If I had two 500w tube amps I'd be able to just tear out my furnace and call it good.

    Yep. I have a pair of the lower power ones (225W each), tube pre and tube phono pre. They heat up the house. In the summer the AC comes on and stays on all evening. In the winter the heat stays off and it gets a little too warm. I've actually found myself standing in front of them warming my hands after shoveling snow. :) I can only imagine the 500 watt pair becomes a little unmanageable heat wise.
    madmax
    Vinyl, the final frontier...

    Avantgarde horns, 300b tubes, thats the kinda crap I want... :D
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  • beardog03
    beardog03 Posts: 5,550
    edited September 2007
    F1nut wrote: »
    No problem, 500 watts of all tube power....http://www.manleylabs.com/containerpages/500_Y2K.html

    Yah Baby !
    That`s what I`m talkin about..

    Someday those will be mine !

    and yes,....no need for a furnace or heater in your house with 500/1000w of tubes !
    Cary SLP-98L F1 DC Pre Amp (Jag Blue)
    Parasound HCA-3500
    Cary Audio V12 amp (Jag Red)
    Polk Audio Xm Reciever (Autographed by THE MAN Himself) :cool:
    Magnum Dynalab MD-102 Analog Tuna
    Jolida JD-100 CDP
    Polk Audio LSi9 Speaks (ebony)
    SVS PC-Ultra Sub
    AQ Bedrock Speaker Cables (Bi-Wired)
    MIT Shotgun S1 I/C`s
    AQ Black Thunder Sub Cables
    PS Audio Plus Power Cords
    Magnum Dynalab ST-2 FM Antenna
    Sanus Cherry wood Speak Stands
    Adona AV45CS3 / 3 Tier Rack (Black /Gold)

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  • danger boy
    danger boy Posts: 15,722
    edited September 2007
    Darla, try another record... if the results are the same.. then there is some problem with your tonearm, which could be the needle/stylus, cartridge, or the headshell.

    Call the maker of the turntable and see what they have to say.

    good luck... you should not be hearing that many snaps, crackles or pops.
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