Day without Immigrants?

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  • BIZILL
    BIZILL Posts: 5,432
    edited May 2006
    what i'm

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  • BIZILL
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    talkin' about.

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  • BIZILL
    BIZILL Posts: 5,432
    edited May 2006
    i'm a hooker.

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    I have no facts to back that up, but I never let facts get in the way of my arguments.
  • unc2701
    unc2701 Posts: 3,587
    edited May 2006
    bobman1235 wrote:
    I don't even understand your point. People with those skills, or ANY skills, ARE allowed to come into the country. It's called IMMIGRATION. There's a process for it.

    I dunno- the red tape makes it a ****! I have a canadian friend, PhD, who basically got deported 'cause GSK cut the drug he was working on and laid off everyone on the project. INS told him he had a day to get to the border. Now, in our field of work, a guy like him could have about 4 interviews by the end of the week and get offers at all of him- there's a major shortage. Yet they sent his **** to the border. So he checked out, snuck back in illegally, lined up a bunch of interviews, snuck back out, got a visa and came back legally.
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  • Toxis
    Toxis Posts: 5,116
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    oh I know... just wanted to poke at ya a bit. :D

    Plus, at my work, the more pages viewed is a bad thing vs just one page you spend a few extra seconds on.
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  • brettw22
    brettw22 Posts: 7,624
    edited May 2006
    This red tape exists for a reason........if we had open borders and accepted everyone, we'd be even more **** than we already are.
    comment comment comment comment. bitchy.
  • Sami
    Sami Posts: 4,634
    edited May 2006
    unc2701 wrote:
    So he checked out, snuck back in illegally
    Illegally? Canadian? He should be able to enter legally, or did the part that he was seeking work make it illegal?
  • Demiurge
    Demiurge Posts: 10,874
    edited May 2006
    Picture of the Day:

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    Okay, fine. But I dare say we could somehow cook our own burritos if we really had to.
  • Polk65
    Polk65 Posts: 1,405
    edited May 2006
    I've been hecho'ing mine for awhile, thank you very mucho.
  • Skynut
    Skynut Posts: 2,967
    edited May 2006
    It has been awhile since I had to twist my own burrito.
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  • shack
    shack Posts: 11,154
    edited May 2006
    I actually had a very nice buritto and enchilada on May 1st, made by Mexican immigrants who happen to be legit US Citizens.
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  • min888
    min888 Posts: 42
    edited May 2006
    Fine by me, I hate buritos anyway, all they put in there are re-fry beans and rice. The tittle is not right, it should say "Day without Criminal (Illigal) Imigrants". We are all immigrants here, the only difference is we are legal. How dare they to come here, broke the law of the land and then stage a protest? I say round them up and ship them back. The politicians are spineless unless it comes to bribes and undertable dealing :eek: . Why should we grant them citizenship when they broke the law? What are we going to do if another 10 mil show up illigally next year? Are we going to let them do the same thing again? If they want to stay here, then do it legally, I have no problem with that. They are a drain on our resources and they don't pay taxes. You are really going to like them if one of them hit you with a car and turns out they don't have driver license or insurance.
  • uncyogi
    uncyogi Posts: 24
    edited May 2006
    Can't for the life of me understand why this is such a huge national debate when it seems so simple.
    If you were to invite me to your home I would most likely be made to feel welcome, maybe even offered a free dinner. If I slipped and fell you might offer me a band-aid, also free! But if you came home one evening to find that I had broken into your home UN-invited, your reaction would understandably be a little different. Even as I was explaining that I didn't steal anything and that I trimmed the hedges, did the dishes and re-alphabetized your CD collection after breaking in, I expect your natural reaction would be to toss me out the nearest window...or worse. And no debating whether my tresspass was "illegal" or just "undocumented".
  • Skynut
    Skynut Posts: 2,967
    edited May 2006
    uncyogi wrote:
    Can't for the life of me understand why this is such a huge national debate when it seems so simple.
    If you were to invite me to your home I would most likely be made to feel welcome, maybe even offered a free dinner. If I slipped and fell you might offer me a band-aid, also free! But if you came home one evening to find that I had broken into your home UN-invited, your reaction would understandably be a little different. Even as I was explaining that I didn't steal anything and that I trimmed the hedges, did the dishes and re-alphabetized your CD collection after breaking in, I expect your natural reaction would be to toss me out the nearest window...or worse. And no debating whether my tresspass was "illegal" or just "undocumented".


    Nicely said.
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  • cfrizz
    cfrizz Posts: 13,415
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    ROFLOL!!!:D Beautifully said Uncyogi! Welcome to Club Polk!:)

    uncyogi wrote:
    Can't for the life of me understand why this is such a huge national debate when it seems so simple.
    If you were to invite me to your home I would most likely be made to feel welcome, maybe even offered a free dinner. If I slipped and fell you might offer me a band-aid, also free! But if you came home one evening to find that I had broken into your home UN-invited, your reaction would understandably be a little different. Even as I was explaining that I didn't steal anything and that I trimmed the hedges, did the dishes and re-alphabetized your CD collection after breaking in, I expect your natural reaction would be to toss me out the nearest window...or worse. And no debating whether my tresspass was "illegal" or just "undocumented".
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  • Skynut
    Skynut Posts: 2,967
    edited May 2006
    Her eis the e-mail about how to destroy America.
    I do not know if any of this speach even took place but here it is in it's entirety.

    Extremely important in light of the current debate

    We know Dick Lamm as the former Governor of Colorado. In that context his thoughts are particularly poignant. Last week there was an immigration overpopulation conference in Washington, DC, filled to capacity by many of American's finest minds and leaders. A brilliant college professor by the name of Victor Hansen Davis talked about his latest book, Mexifornia," explaining how immigration - both legal and illegal" was destroying the entire state of California. He said it would march across the country until it destroyed all vestiges of The American Dream.

    Moments later, former Colorado Governor Richard D. Lamm stood up and gave a stunning speech on how to destroy America. The audience sat spellbound as he described eight methods for the destruction of the United States. He said, "If you believe that America is too smug, too self-satisfied, too rich, then let's destroy America. It is not that hard to do. No nation in history has survived the ravages of time.


    Arnold Toynbee observed that all great civilizations rise and fall and that 'An autopsy of history would show that all great nations commit suicide.'"

    Here is how they do it," Lamm said:

    "First, to destroy America, turn America into a bilingual or multi-lingual and bicultural country." History shows that no nation can survive the tension, conflict, and antagonism of two or more competing languages and cultures. It is a blessing for an individual to be bilingual; however, it is a curse for a society to be bilingual. The historical scholar, Seymour Lipset, put it this way: "The histories of bilingual and bi-cultural societies that do not assimilate are histories of turmoil, tension, and tragedy." Canada, Belgium, Malaysia, and Lebanon all face crises of national existence in which minorities press for autonomy, if not independence. Pakistan and Cyprus have divided. Nigeria suppressed an ethnic rebellion. France faces difficulties with Basques, Bretons, and Corsicans.".

    Lamm went on: Second, to destroy America, "Invent 'multiculturalism' and encourage immigrants to maintain their culture. I would make it an article of belief that all cultures are equal. That there are no cultural differences. I would make it an article of faith that the Black and Hispanic dropout rates are due solely to prejudice and discrimination by the majority. Every other explanation is out of bounds.


    Third, "We could make the United States an 'Hispanic Quebec' without much effort. The key is to celebrate diversity rather than unity. As Benjamin Schwarz said in the Atlantic Monthly recently: "The apparent success of our own multiethnic and multicultural experiment might have been achieved not by tolerance but by hegemony. Without the dominance that once dictated ethnocentricity and what it meant to be an American, we are left with only tolerance and pluralism to hold us together."


    Lamm said, "I would encourage all immigrants to keep their own language and culture. I would replace the melting pot metaphor with the salad bowl metaphor. It is important to ensure that we have various cultural subgroups living in America enforcing their differences rather than as Americans, emphasizing their similarities."

    "Fourth, I would make our fastest growing demographic group the least educated. I would add a second underclass, unassimilated, undereducated, and antagonistic to our population. I would have this second underclass have a 50% dropout rate from high. school."


    "My fifth point for destroying America would be to get big foundations and business to give these efforts lots of money. I would invest in ethnic identity, and I would establish the cult of 'Victimology.' I would get all minorities to think that their lack of success was the fault of the majority. I would start a grievance industry blaming all minority failure on the majority population."

    "My sixth plan for America's downfall would include dual citizenship, and promote divided loyalties. I would celebrate diversity over unity. I would stress differences rather than similarities. Diverse people worldwide are mostly engaged in hating each other - that is, when they are not killing each other. A diverse, peaceful, or stable society is against most historical precedent. People undervalue the unity it takes to keep a nation together. Look at the ancient Greeks. The Greeks believed that they belonged to the same race; they possessed a common language and literature; and they worshipped the same gods. All Greece took part in the Olympic games. A common enemy, Persia, threatened their liberty Yet all these bonds were not strong enough to overcome two factors: local patriotism and geographical conditions that nurtured political divisions. Greece fell. "E. Pluribus Unum" -- From many, one. In that historical reality, if we put the emphasis on the 'pluribus'. Instead of the 'Unum,' we will balkanize America as surely as Kosovo."

    "Next to last, I would place all subjects off limits; make it taboo to talk about anything against the cult of 'diversity.' I would find a word similar to 'heretic' in the 16th century - that stopped discussion and paralyzed thinking. Words like 'racist' or 'xenophobe' halt discussion and debate. Having made America a bilingual/bicultural country, having established multi-culturism, having the large foundations fund the doctrine of 'Victimology,' I would next make it impossible to enforce our immigration laws. I would develop a mantra: That because immigration has been good for America, it must always be good. I would make every individual immigrant symmetric and ignore the cumulative impact of millions of them."

    In the last minute of his speech, Governor Lamm wiped his brow. Profound silence followed. Finally he said,. "Lastly, I would censor Victor Hanson Davis's book Mexifornia. His book is dangerous. It exposes the plan to destroy America. If you feel America. deserves to be destroyed, don't read that book.".

    There was no applause. A chilling fear quietly rose like an ominous cloud above every attendee at the conference. Every American in that room knew that everything Lamm enumerated was proceeding methodically, quietly, darkly, yet pervasively across the United States today. Discussion is being suppressed. Over 100 languages are ripping the foundation of our educational system and national cohesiveness. Even barbaric cultures that practice female genital mutilation are growing as we celebrate 'diversity.' American jobs are vanishing into the Third World as corporations create a Third World in. America - take note of California and other states - to date, ten million illegal aliens and growing fast. It is reminiscent of George Orwell's book "1984." In that story, three slogans are engraved in the Ministry of Truth building: "War is peace," "Freedom is slavery," and "Ignorance is strength."

    Governor Lamm walked back to his seat. It dawned on everyone at the conference that our nation and the future of this great democracy (REPUBLIC) is deeply in trouble and worsening fast. If we don't get this immigration monster stopped within three years, it will rage like a California wildfire and destroy everything in its path, especially The American Dream.

    Thought provoking?

    God be with you.

    It does sound like a recipe for disaster.
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  • BIZILL
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    had to adhere to my sig's quote...;)

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    bobman1235 wrote:
    I have no facts to back that up, but I never let facts get in the way of my arguments.
  • Skynut
    Skynut Posts: 2,967
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    It is a bit long.
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  • bobman1235
    bobman1235 Posts: 10,822
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    ADD much? You can't read a couple paragraphs?

    That's why this country's goin to ****, no one can focus on one thing for more than 6 seconds before something shiny distracts them.
    If you will it, dude, it is no dream.
  • Demiurge
    Demiurge Posts: 10,874
    edited May 2006
    What were we talking abou....anyone ever play poker online?
  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,569
    edited May 2006
    Illegals?

    Go home!!!

    Stop wasting our time and money by protesting over something you have no right to participate in, considering you are illegal!

    Stupid illegals.
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  • BIZILL
    BIZILL Posts: 5,432
    edited May 2006
    bobman1235 wrote:
    ADD much? You can't read a couple paragraphs?

    That's why this country's goin to ****, no one can focus on one thing for more than 6 seconds before something shiny distracts them.
    sorry bob. just chalk me up as a contributing effort to the degradation of the american way.

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    bobman1235 wrote:
    I have no facts to back that up, but I never let facts get in the way of my arguments.