Day without Immigrants?

dkg999

The labor to harvest fragile crops like tomatos is a relatively small part of the expense to raise those crops and get them to market. Historically, a portion of the migrant workers to harvest those crops were workers coming from Mexico and they were in the US legally for the most part, and then after the harvest they went back home. I'm not sure you would see a drastic increase in produce prices if illegal immigrants were not in the US. My problem with this situation is that I have friends who are Russian and want to come to the US, bring skills such as computer programming, veterinary, nursing, etc, are highly educated, and they can't legally come to the US to live and work because they try to follow the law. The whole situation is just nuts!

Danny Tse

dkg999 wrote:

My problem with this situation is that I have friends who are Russian and want to come to the US, bring skills such as computer programming, veterinary, nursing, etc, are highly educated, and they can't legally come to the US to live and work because they try to follow the law. The whole situation is just nuts!

My opinion is that the immigration policy of this country is screwed-up. We always hear about how US corporations complain about not having technical people in this country or how outsourcing is "right", blah blah blah. Why don't we allow more people with the skills mentioned by dkg999 to come into this country? Of course, we still need to have quotas on how many can come in and we also need more intensive background checks on these people. At least they will pay taxes and stimulate our economy.

F1nut

I have no problem with illegal immigrants. I just wish they would have more programs to assist these guys to becoming legal citizens despite coming in illegally.

WTF??? What part of ILLEGAL don't you understand???

There is no way to stop them from coming into the country, so I don't see why we are wasting our money trying. That is the problem.

Big wall, bad **** flesh eating dogs, lots of US LE types with big **** guns. I'd bet the problem would stop in less than a week.

shack

1996blackmax wrote:

No problem, just plant your own **** then....

I guess this is what happens when you hire irresponsible labor.....

brettw22

I dunno about stop Jesse, but it sure would be fun seeing the looks on all the others on the other side of the wall when they see what's happening to their compadre's in teh well of the double wall........

bobman1235

Danny Tse wrote:

My opinion is that the immigration policy of this country is screwed-up. We always hear about how US corporations complain about not having technical people in this country or how outsourcing is "right", blah blah blah. Why don't we allow more people with the skills mentioned by dkg999 to come into this country? Of course, we still need to have quotas on how many can come in and we also need more intensive background checks on these people. At least they will pay taxes and stimulate our economy.

I don't even understand your point. People with those skills, or ANY skills, ARE allowed to come into the country. It's called IMMIGRATION. There's a process for it.

Skynut

If we wanted to keep them out we could. Ever hear of area 51? If we can keep our own people out of there we should be able to keep foreigners from walking in un reported.
How can we threaten death to our own people for going somewhere on our own soil that our tax money pays for but we can't keep people from invading our country?
If we really wanted to protect our boarders we could. Aparently we don't want to.
I'll bet terrorists from around the world have been cruising in steadily since shortly after 9/11 because we don't want to protect our people or offend illegals by keeping them out.

Polliticians are pathetic.

Shizelbs

Since when do foreigners get to have such power over our countries decisions. You don't like it, go **** to your elected officials.

And on another note, my yard is still not put in. Boycott is over boys, get back to work.

ClemmonsHoo

All of us need to do ourselves a favor and keep talking about this. Talk to your friends, your family, your coworkers, and keep them mad about it, and if you really care, you better get as many people as you can to write to their Representatives because Congress is about to screw this up royaly as usual and then it will be too late.

Amnesty is flawed. The guest worker program is flawed. The other new plans on the table are also flawed, and the original proposition is flawed because as usual this WH is not giving it any funding.

I don't agree with everything Lou Dobbs has to say, but on this issue he is dead on the money. We have to start with the border. It's not really even that difficult. They just want us to think it is because they're not really interested in actually solving the problem. They = our govt., which is almost entirely controlled now by big business thru lobbying, fundraising, and extortion. How can we fix any small part of the illegal alien problem if we can't even secure our border???

How do you get your Representative to listen to you? The only thing they are after really is power. The way they get that power is thru your vote. Doesn't matter what party you vote for, just tell them that unless they get this right you're switching parties. The vote, your vote, is the only leverage you have, and they DO NOT want to lose it, especially to the other side. Playing both sides against the other is all we have unfortunately.

There's a lot more to say on this issue. I could write a dissertation, but I'll get off my soapbox now.

Skynut

Soapboxes are welcome on this subject.
I just wonder what they (the gvmt) are doing right now while they point us in the direction of immigration and bird flu.

I agree writing letters can help, if they listen.

Toxis

I voiced my opinion in my "A Day Without Citizens" thread. I also emailed it to everyone I know and posted it on two other forums I frequent.

BIZILL

a guy locally is going to burn the mexican flag at a southside park in tucson on cinco de mayo with the supervision and protection of the police. wow, may become violent. but i like his enthusiasm. he is not against legal mexicans, only those who are here illegally. more to the story, but mee likey thus far.

Toxis

that's awesome. I just hope he finds a way to make it non-racial and more anti-illegal immigrants.

BIZILL

i'm sure the police will help keep things civil and he'll stay focused on the intent.

BIZILL

then he's gonna call out all the companies who employ these folk.

Sami

bobman1235 wrote:

I don't even understand your point. People with those skills, or ANY skills, ARE allowed to come into the country. It's called IMMIGRATION. There's a process for it.

Not any skills, has to be a specific skill that is in need atm. H-1B visas are not that easy to get, and the quota is low. I came here on L-1 visa myself which is similar but easier for a large company to get.

Sami

BIZILL wrote:

a guy locally is going to burn the mexican flag at a southside park in tucson on cinco de mayo with the supervision and protection of the police.

I'm sure there will be a lot of US flags burned as well if he is advertising it.

BIZILL

good. send those ungrateful **** back. eff 'em if they burn our flag in mexico, but they better refrain from burning OUR flag inside OUR country.

BIZILL

i just said i like the dude's enthusiasm, but i wish he could do something other than burning anyone's flag. i don't dig the idea. but it commands attention. almost guaranteed he'll get network television time. that is admittedly what he's after. bring the situation to a head.

Sami

BIZILL wrote:

good. send those ungrateful **** back. eff 'em if they burn our flag in mexico, but they better refrain from burning OUR flag inside OUR country.

What can you do? There is nothing against the law in burning the US flag.

BIZILL

i suppose nothing. but shows how ungrateful they are and that will command attention as well. now i hope they do.

Sami

BIZILL wrote:

i suppose nothing. but shows how ungrateful they are and that will command attention as well. now i hope they do.

Well, what would you expect if someone is burning your flag? That dude is trying to provoke people with his action so the natural reaction is to do the same to him. Just my guess of what's going to happen.

BIZILL

prolly. but good. so be it.

Toxis

you know what's funny?

Toxis

Bizill cannot even make a post

Toxis

without having to continue his thought

Toxis

on a completely different post.

Toxis

That my friends is what we call a post ****.

Toxis

You'd think there'd be an edit button to just go back and add in the rest of your statement there... Wait!!!

BIZILL

sorry all, i'm at work and can't spend too much time on one single post. i needn't get fired over this forum. ya'll know