Day without Immigrants?

Demiurge · May 2006

BIZILL wrote:

need to up my count.

Sounds like a personal problem.

1996blackmax · May 2006

BIZILL wrote:

you'd put your trust in their loyalty?

just got pissed a bit ago when my boss told me about his weekend at walmart. he was accidentally blocking a mex family with his cart and the dude got uppety about it. then he decided to call my boss a 'stupid white boy'. damn them. that's like me moving to mexico and uttering the slur, 'damn mexicans'.:mad:

This is one idiotic member from a very large group of people. Has more to do with that individual.

I have been called f***ing mexican, and other racial slurs by people. I have never judged the whole group as being ignorant and intolerrant as the idiot that said those things. Just someting to keep in mind...

There was one time when a lady was upset with me because I asked her mom to please be careful with my car's door. She had her door opened and was leaning on her door, which was hitting my door. She was upset that I said anything to her mom. The whole time I was calm and respectful. She called me every name in the book (racial ones), and told me and my family to back home to Mexico. It was only me and my kids, we were picking up some pizza. Funny thing is that my wife has both a Polish family background and Native American one. Meaning my kids are also part Native American. How much more American can you get. Anyway, I saw her for what she was. I was not upset at white people, just her.

BIZILL · May 2006

RACIAL SLURS...not fun for anyone.

Skynut · May 2006

brettw22 wrote:

I wish I had the email (which I'm sure most of you have seen), that asks what would happen if every situation that hispanics have expected this country to provide to their illegal asses were demanded of them by us in Mexico. We'd probably be shot on the spot

This one is a little different.
I do not know how true it is.

Illegal Immigrants

FACTS AS REPORTED BY LOS ANGELES TIMES

1. 40% of all workers in L.A. County (L.A. County has 10 million people) are working for cash and not paying taxes. This was because they are predominantly illegal immigrants, working without a green card.

2. 95% of warrants for murder in Los Angeles are for illegal immigrants.

3. 75% of people on the most wanted list in Los Angeles are illegal immigrants.

4. Over 2/3's of all births in Los Angeles County are to illegal immigrant Mexicans on Medi-Cal whose births were paid for by taxpayers.

5. Nearly 25% of all inmates in California detention centers are Mexican nationals here illegally.

6. Over 300,000 illegal immigrants in Los Angeles County are living in garages.

7. The FBI reports half of all gang members in Los Angeles are most likely illegal immigrants from south of the border.

8. Nearly 60% of all occupants of HUD properties are illegal.

9. 21 radio stations in L.A. are Spanish speaking.

10. In L.A.County 5.1 million people speak English. 3.9 million speak Spanish (10.2 million people in L.A.County).

Less than 2% of illegal immigrants are picking our crops but 29% are on welfare.

http://www.cis.org

Over 70% of the United States annual population growth (and over 90% of California, Florida, and New York) results from immigration.

The cost of immigration to the American taxpayer in 1997 was a NET $70 BILLION a year (after subtracting taxes immigrants pay). [Professor Donald Huddle, Rice University].

The lifetime fiscal impact (taxes paid minus services used) for the average adult Mexican immigrant is a NEGATIVE.

29% of inmates in federal prisons are illegal immigrants.

AND WE ARE SUPPOSED TO OPEN OUR HEARTS AND EVERYTHING ELSE TO THIS KIND OF STUFF?

BALONEY!!!!

BIZILL · May 2006

Demiurge wrote:

Sounds like a personal problem.

two sons, mind you. but yes, one of many probs.:)

Skynut · May 2006

brettw22 wrote:

I wish I had the email (which I'm sure most of you have seen), that asks what would happen if every situation that hispanics have expected this country to provide to their illegal asses were demanded of them by us in Mexico. We'd probably be shot on the spot

maybe this one.

MR. PRESIDENT, I'M HEADED TO MEXICO

Dear President Bush:

I'm about to plan a little trip with my family and extended family, and I would like to ask you to assist me. I'm going to walk across the border from the U.S. into Mexico, and I need to make a few arrangements. I know you can help with this.

I plan to skip all the legal stuff like visas, passports, immigration quotas and laws. I'm sure they handle those things the same way you do here.

So, would you mind telling your buddy, President Vicente Fox, that I'm on my way over? Please let him know that I will be expecting the following:

1. Free medical care for my entire family.
2. English-speaking government bureaucrats for all services I might need, whether I use them or not.
3. All government forms need to be printed in English.
4. I want my kids to be taught by English-speaking teachers.
5. Schools need to include classes on American culture and history.
6. I want my kids to see the American flag flying on the top of the flag pole at their school with the Mexican flag flying lower down.
7. Please plan to feed my kids at school for both breakfast and lunch.
8. I will need a local Mexican driver's license so I can get easy access to government services.
9. I do not plan to have any car insurance, and I won't make any effort to learn local traffic laws.
10. In case one of the Mexican police officers does not get the memo from Pres. Fox to leave me alone, please be sure that all police officers speak English.

11. I plan to fly the U.S. flag from my house top, put flag decals on my car, and have a gigantic celebration on July 4th. I do not want any complaints or negative comments from the locals.
12. I would also like to have a nice job without paying any taxes, and don't enforce any labor laws or tax laws.
13. Please tell all the people in the country to be extremely nice and never say a critical word about me, or about the strain I might place on the economy.

I know this is an easy request because you already do all these things for all the people who come to the U.S. from Mexico. I am sure that Pres. Fox won't mind returning the favor if you ask him nicely.

However, if he gives you any trouble, just invite him to go quail hunting with your V.P.

Thank you so much for your kind help.

Sincerely,

David M. Bresnahan

dorokusai · May 2006

There was no loss of productivity at my work location, although; I'm sure some impact was felt....somewhere.

BIZILL · May 2006

very good find there sky!

1996blackmax · May 2006

Zero wrote:

hehe... mexicans... theres a lot of housework to be done here in the near-future.. time to stop by a home depote...

Very smart thing to say :rolleyes: .....

PolkThug · May 2006

dorokusai wrote:

There was no loss of productivity at my work location, although; I'm sure some impact was felt....somewhere.

My Chipotle was business as usual.

Skynut · May 2006

BIZILL wrote:

very good find there sky!

I just got those the other day.

And lookey here This thread got me to Polkologist status.:cool:

bobman1235 · May 2006

dorokusai wrote:

There was no loss of productivity at my work location, although; I'm sure some impact was felt....somewhere.

Apparently there were a few Dunkin' Donuts closed in the area today (and if you've ever been to New england, there are about a dozen Dunkin Donuts per square mile), but other than that I haven't heard many horror stories.

PolkThug · May 2006

Lots of places shutdown today:

"Tyson Foods Inc., the world's largest meat producer, shut five of nine beef plants and four of six pork plants in anticipation of widespread absences. Perdue Farms Inc., the nation's third-largest chicken producer, closed eight processing plants in seven states. Cargill Meat Solutions, the nation's second-largest beef processor, gave more than 15,000 workers the day off and closed plants in six states."

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12581798/

PhantomOG · May 2006

PolkThug wrote:

Lots of places shutdown today:

"Tyson Foods Inc., the world's largest meat producer, shut five of nine beef plants and four of six pork plants in anticipation of widespread absences. Perdue Farms Inc., the nation's third-largest chicken producer, closed eight processing plants in seven states. Cargill Meat Solutions, the nation's second-largest beef processor, gave more than 15,000 workers the day off and closed plants in six states."

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12581798/

sounds like INS has a new list of companies to hit for illegal hiring practices.

Skynut · May 2006

So lets just say that they get their way.
We grant amnesty to millions of people who broke the law to get here.
Won't more people risk their lives to get here in time to be included?

What about the next thing they want to hold us hostage for?
Voting rights?
A chance at the Presidency?
Higher wages?

Where will it end if we make a deal here?

Danny Tse · May 2006

Skynut wrote:

So lets just say that they get their way.
We grant amnesty to millions of people who broke the law to get here.
Won't more people risk their lives to get here in time to be included?

What about the next thing they want to hold us hostage for?
Voting rights?
A chance at the Presidency?
Higher wages?

Where will it end if we make a deal here?

Skynut,

You're right. I don't remember exactly when, but the Feds gave amnesty to millions of illegal immigrants about a decade or so ago. And here we are again....

Danny Tse · May 2006

PolkThug wrote:

Lots of places shutdown today:

"Tyson Foods Inc., the world's largest meat producer, shut five of nine beef plants and four of six pork plants in anticipation of widespread absences. Perdue Farms Inc., the nation's third-largest chicken producer, closed eight processing plants in seven states. Cargill Meat Solutions, the nation's second-largest beef processor, gave more than 15,000 workers the day off and closed plants in six states."

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12581798/

I guess Tyson Foods will be making a campaign contribution to someone so that INS will not be showing up at their factories.

1996blackmax · May 2006

Danny Tse wrote:

Skynut,

You're right. I don't remember exactly when, but the Feds gave amnesty to millions of illegal immigrants about a decade or so ago. And here we are again....

Around 4 million people back around 1987.

PolkThug · May 2006

The current proposal does NOT include amnesty.

masanz1 · May 2006

I just wonder how much of this will backfire on the people trying to prove a point. 8 kids did not show up at my sons school so he was able to get more one on one attention, less traffic, overall less crowds. It might open people's eyes to how much of a problem we really have here and may incline people to vote for more restrictions.

Shizelbs · May 2006

Damnit, my back yard has not even been touched. They sure as hell showed me. I guess they'll be getting my money later than sooner. I certainly learned my lesson.

scottnbnj · May 2006

Danny Tse wrote:

Skynut,

You're right. I don't remember exactly when, but the Feds gave amnesty to millions of illegal immigrants about a decade or so ago. And here we are again....

beyond 87 there were also 96 and 2000. background checks were not done on hundreds of thousands so the uh,politicians could get them sworn in just in time to register to vote. conveniently, voter registration tables were set up at mass swearing events.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=21739

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1996blackmax · May 2006

Shizelbs wrote:

Damnit, my back yard has not even been touched. They sure as hell showed me. I guess they'll be getting my money later than sooner. I certainly learned my lesson.

Then get up an mow it....

amulford · May 2006

don't just sit there at your computer and ****. DO SOMETHING. Let your government know how you feel. I have and will continue to do so.

If this was one of the countries these people came from, you can best believe the government of that sovereign nation would seize that opportunity to deal with it decisively, if not brutally. Wake up.

This is not an issue that will go away because you cry about it...

dorokusai · May 2006

I think that those individuals, currently in school, should've stayed in school to show some kind of commitment to education.

It isn't perfect, but I think the education system should be more important than an overall agenda. That's what adults are supposed to address, not children.

1996blackmax · May 2006

Totally agree with you....

Shizelbs · May 2006

1996blackmax wrote:

Then get up an mow it....

They haven't planted anything for me to mow yet. Thats the problem.

1996blackmax · May 2006

No problem, just plant your own **** then....

PhantomOG · May 2006

Danny Tse wrote:

That's the big question....will you pay 2X or more for tomatos? Will the general American population go for that for most of the produce at the local supermarket?

And since we are talking about the illegal immigrants, how come we never mention the employers that employ them? They are breaking the law as well. Or perhaps the likes of Walmart and those giant agri-businesses have too much lobbying power....

We do mention the employers. I feel that a harsh and continued crackdown on places that hire illegals will do more for the illegal immigration problem then border security. If they can't find work here, they won't come here.

How come people who always talk about paying 2X for a tomato never mention the BILLIONS of dollars people will save in auto and health insurance premiums when we all have to stop paying for them? Since its all theoretically money we're talking here I'd be willing to bet the drain illegals put on society will outweigh the increase in costs of goods and services which usually hire illegals.

PhantomOG · May 2006

PolkThug wrote:

The current proposal does NOT include amnesty.

But that's what they want and why they are protesting.

I bet 9/10 people "protesting" haven't got a clue what the current proposal says. Most of the proposals before the Senate right now discuss ways of helping illegal workers through guest worker programs or changes making it easier to get work visas. Why the hell are they protesting against that???

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