The United Soviet Socialist Republic of St Louis Bans Car Audio

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  • B3Nut
    B3Nut Posts: 76
    edited January 2006
    They could conceivably use that language against musicians, too. I do agree with ensuring that someone's enjoyment of their audio whatever doesn't infringe on someone else's enjoyment of their peace and quiet. I hate hearing some gangsta-wannabe kid rattling my windows at 11PM. But I don't want a nosy politician getting too overzealous either, and telling me what I can and cannot own. That is my business, and mine alone. That said, I fully support ticketing individuals who haven't learned the fine art of respect for others, a lesson as lost on the authors of this bill as it is on kiddies who boom at night in residential areas.

    Todd in Cheesecurdistan
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  • SportsFan
    SportsFan Posts: 93
    edited January 2006
    B3Nut wrote:
    They could conceivably use that language against musicians, too. I do agree with ensuring that someone's enjoyment of their audio whatever doesn't infringe on someone else's enjoyment of their peace and quiet. I hate hearing some gangsta-wannabe kid rattling my windows at 11PM. But I don't want a nosy politician getting too overzealous either, and telling me what I can and cannot own. That is my business, and mine alone. That said, I fully support ticketing individuals who haven't learned the fine art of respect for others, a lesson as lost on the authors of this bill as it is on kiddies who boom at night in residential areas.

    Todd in Cheesecurdistan
    Well said, Todd....I think you speak for nearly all of us, and summed it up quite nicely. Good job ;)
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  • PoweredByDodge
    PoweredByDodge Posts: 4,185
    edited January 2006
    Next they pith-tag us and smack our necks on the back of laboratory tables before they start draining out spinal juices.
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  • PoweredByDodge
    PoweredByDodge Posts: 4,185
    edited February 2006
    I know how to solve this... we'll have a battle-0-ramma.

    In one corner, Schmid, with his pixel-ated arms and legs... and bad hair piece.

    In the other corner, coming out of retirement for one night and one night only... the one... the only...

    GALVATRON!

    You're **** now son...
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  • aaharvel
    aaharvel Posts: 4,489
    edited February 2006
    Waaaaaaah!!!!!!!!!!!! Galvatron!
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  • aaharvel
    aaharvel Posts: 4,489
    edited February 2006
    but this guy was better..
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  • PoweredByDodge
    PoweredByDodge Posts: 4,185
    edited February 2006
    unicron is the pimp... but his brother is even more wicked... Primus, creator of all Cybertronian Transformer life... the creator of Alpha Trion.
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  • neomagus00
    neomagus00 Posts: 3,899
    edited February 2006
    warning! huge geek alert!

    :D
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  • PoweredByDodge
    PoweredByDodge Posts: 4,185
    edited February 2006
    oh ya - well my Go Bots can beat up your My Little Ponies!
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  • aaharvel
    aaharvel Posts: 4,489
    edited February 2006
    PoweredByDodge wrote:
    unicron is the pimp... but his brother is even more wicked... Primus, creator of all Cybertronian Transformer life... the creator of Alpha Trion.
    now i'm lost. after the movie of the cartoon i moved on.
    Primus?
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  • PoweredByDodge
    PoweredByDodge Posts: 4,185
    edited February 2006
    Primus was mentioned in Season 3 --- Season 3 was the horrible season that followed the Movie ... it was the last season... there was a season 4 but it was just 3 episodes that were the final "story arch" of the cartoon series. like a big farewell deal.

    Anyway... there's an episode called "call of the primitives" or something like that... long story short... some wack job scientist is working on a creature that was partially built by the creator of Unicron... the same guy who built Primus.... Primus, Unicron, and this other thing are like "brothers" ... Unicron we all know and love as the devil in the movie... this other thing (its like a giant planet size energy sucking spider) was supposed to be the one thing that could kill unicron (other than the matrix)... Primus had apparently been killed by Unicron ...

    Primus built first... good dude, made a bunch of little planets with robots on them ... so he's kinda like a god to the transformers... ... he gave them his "heart" the autobot matrix of leadership, which contained all his memories... they then passed it on, leader to leader... well shortly there after Unicron killed him... then unicron got pissed because he coudln't find the matrix inside Primus... so he killed his creator... who had only half finished another project.... a project that would be able to kill Unicron because Unicron was otua control.

    I'm not going to finish teh episode for you because it really sucks...but you get the idea now.
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  • Skynut
    Skynut Posts: 2,967
    edited February 2006
    Omg?
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  • neomagus00
    neomagus00 Posts: 3,899
    edited February 2006
    that's pretty much what i was thinking...
    It's not good, very fundamentally simply not good. - geolemon

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  • exalted512
    exalted512 Posts: 10,735
    edited February 2006
    same here...lay off the 15 year old cartoons there buddy...
    -Cody
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  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited February 2006
    MacLeod wrote:
    Looks like the home audio crowd that is probably applauding this bill is not immune to it either.



    Looks like we have a common interest.

    HA! So much for that! I posted this over in the Clubhouse and it looks like we're on our own on this one. Most dont care and the the rest think we deserve it.
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  • 1996blackmax
    1996blackmax Posts: 2,436
    edited February 2006
    That is because they are ignorant. Many people that are into car audio do it as a hobbie, and not to just show off. What that guy is trying to do is a joke. I will leave it at that as I do not want to go to sleep being upset :D.
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  • PoweredByDodge
    PoweredByDodge Posts: 4,185
    edited February 2006
    i told you the home audio guys are **** bags...

    they're just jealous that there aren't many 2000 watt home audio amplifiers.
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  • fireshoes
    fireshoes Posts: 3,167
    edited February 2006
    I sent the mayor an email a few days ago but no response. I have 3 home amps on my upstairs system with about 2000 watts total. ;)
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  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited February 2006
    LOL!! Good for you! ;)
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  • audiobliss
    audiobliss Posts: 12,518
    edited February 2006
    fireshoes wrote:
    I sent the mayor an email a few days ago but no response. I have 3 home amps on my upstairs system with about 2000 watts total. ;)

    Hey, that's right...you are the one who bought those Carver monoblocks a while back, no? Man, they were a great deal! If they're on an 8ohm load, that means they're putting out about 1800watts, right?`
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  • exalted512
    exalted512 Posts: 10,735
    edited February 2006
    WE WON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!*************************

    http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/stlouiscitycounty/story/17088BB09EF019918625710B001C07B9?OpenDocument&highlight=2%2C%22Jake%22+AND+%22Wagman%22
    "Schmid said he pulled his bill, in part, to prevent Slay from having to choose between the car stereo industry and neighborhoods fed up with loud music."

    Thats right ****, dont **** with the car stereo industry
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  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited February 2006
    Hell yeah baby!!!!

    And a big, heartyangry-smiley-002.gif to everybody that was for this!
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  • PoweredByDodge
    PoweredByDodge Posts: 4,185
    edited February 2006
    Yeeeeeeesssssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Wooohooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


    God I Love America!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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  • neomagus00
    neomagus00 Posts: 3,899
    edited February 2006
    that mayor is a good politician in my book... 'tis a very very small book...
    It's not good, very fundamentally simply not good. - geolemon

    "Its not good enough until we have real-time fearmongering. I want my fear mongered as it happens." - Shizelbs
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  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited February 2006
    Yeah. Thomas Jefferson and George Washington are about the only names Ive got in mine!
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  • 98thumpin
    98thumpin Posts: 649
    edited February 2006
    car audio rocks my worl god bless the usa and guy like you all props go out to the car stero masters everywhere
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  • polksda
    polksda Posts: 716
    edited February 2006
    aaharvel wrote:
    But this is a law that i'm for, plain and simple. It may not be perfect, but it's a start.

    Yeah... it's what it's the start of that has me worried.

    This is the absolutely dumbest piece of legislation I've heard of in a LONG time...

    EDIT: Mkay, so I'm slow to the table on this one... I'm horrified that this bill actually initially passed by a 22-4 vote. Shows that there's a LOT of out-of-touch people in positions of power (maybe that's a requirement?).

    Also, in the article about the bill being pulled, there's only comment about revising the bill to include wording about "music actually playing"... but no mention of any decibel level. So theoretically a blue hair could get pulled over for driving too slowly, the officer could overhear Barely Manenough on the car's audio system at 40 decibels, but since the manufacturer built in a 14-speaker audio system, the car could be impounded. After all "music was playing"...

    Dumb-dumb-dumb DUMB...
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  • neomagus00
    neomagus00 Posts: 3,899
    edited February 2006
    somehow, i think that after the instant uproar this caused, they'll only go after people we ALL hate... the 0400 'bump'ers...
    It's not good, very fundamentally simply not good. - geolemon

    "Its not good enough until we have real-time fearmongering. I want my fear mongered as it happens." - Shizelbs
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  • PoweredByDodge
    PoweredByDodge Posts: 4,185
    edited February 2006
    when legislation like this gets tabled and sent back for review, it almost always dies.

    so i'd say we're safe...

    i still may go forward with www.craigschmidsucks.com

    dunno yet.
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  • Custom Jim
    Custom Jim Posts: 30
    edited February 2006
    Just caught the local news on KTVI channel 2 here in Saint Louis and it looks like a modified bill passed today. I caught part of it but any audio system that is audible within 75' can have the driver ticketed. I didn't hear anything about impounding vehicles like what was in the original bill but they did say this modified bill was in response to how some new vehicles are equipped.

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