What did you do to your stereo rig today?

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  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 24,515
    Out of curiosity: do you use that Behringer amp for subwoofage, @wardsweb? Do you use their on-board DSP ?

    One notes, in the context of @Wardsweb's post, that, in the interim, Behringer conservatized the cosmetics of their Class D amps, and also deleted the -- umm -- charming -- iNuke moniker. ;)
    https://www.parts-express.com/Search.aspx?keyword=behringer nx&sitesearch=true

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    That said, and FWIW, I remain perversely fascinated by these amps -- and the similar Crown "DriveCore" [2] amplifiers with DSP.
  • WardswebWardsweb Posts: 856
    edited January 20
    mhardy6647 wrote: »
    Out of curiosity: do you use that Behringer amp for subwoofage, @wardsweb? Do you use their on-board DSP ?

    One notes, in the context of @Wardsweb's post, that, in the interim, Behringer conservatized the cosmetics of their Class D amps, and also deleted the -- umm -- charming -- iNuke moniker. ;)
    https://www.parts-express.com/Search.aspx?keyword=behringer nx&sitesearch=true

    That said, and FWIW, I remain perversely fascinated by these amps -- and the similar Crown "DriveCore" [2] amplifiers with DSP.

    This amp is used to drive the bass bins on the Klipsch Jubiliee speakers. I use a Behringer EP4000 for my Danley DTS-10 sub.

    This is a NU6000. It is a straight 2 channel amp. I did consider the NX3000D, but I don't need the built in DSP processing. I use a EV DX-38 crossover.
    Living room: Clearaudio Champion II turntable, EAR 834P phono pre, Auralic Altair DAC/server, PS Audio Quintessence power, DIY 6H30 Class A Linestage, ASL AQ1006 845 DT MKII mono block amplifers, DIY Altec/JBL speakers, DIY Baltic birch rack
    Sun room: DIY Nelson Pass B1 w/Korg NuTube pre, Logitech Bluetooth, DIY EL34 amp, JBL C50 Olympus speakers with custom Smith horns, Mapleshade Samson rack
    Den: Onkyo TX-NR929 receiver, Oppo BDP-103 player, Panamax M5400-PM power, Behringer EP 4000 sub amp, Electrovoice DX-38 active, Klipsch Jubilee speakers, Martin Logan Cinema center, JBL SAT2 surrounds, Danley DTS-10 sub
    Dining room: Shanling CD-T1500 SACD, Sumo Athena pre, SST Ampzilla 2000 amps, Quad 2905 speakers
  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 24,515
    edited January 20
    Funny you mention the EV XOs... some day... I am gonna get up the gumption to configure & try these on the Frankenaltecs...

    44483319062_904cddcd3e_b.jpgEV XOs by Mark Hardy, on Flickr

    fully analog, though, are these.
  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 7,549
    edited January 21
    Very nice, I like the design. How's the action/noise of the slot loading CD mechanism? Is it quiet?

    Edit: Pretty tidy design inside too:

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    "Electronic music is human sound adapting to indulge technology, and for some, it feels like the signature sound of energy. New and abstract sounds over hypnotic rhythms can conjure vast soundscapes for escape, pleasure, and transcendence."
  • treitz3treitz3 Posts: 13,902
    I bet it was Mike. LOL

    Nice.

    Tom
    In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence.

    ~ The best way to enjoy digital music reproduction is to never listen to good analogue reproduction ~

    ~ Not all things that can be measured can be heard and not all things heard can be measured ~

    ~ When the law ends, tyranny begins ~
  • Mike ReeterMike Reeter Posts: 3,714
    Clipdat wrote: »
    Very nice, I like the design. How's the action/noise of the slot loading CD mechanism? Is it quiet?

    Edit: Pretty tidy design inside too:

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    Drew, It has a 'slight' mechanical noise when loading the Disc, and I mean ever so slight. During operation it is extremely quiet, dead quiet.

    I was a little leery of a 'Slot Loader', but all the Reviews I've read stated that this is not an issue. It's the same mechanism that Audiolab uses in their top player.

    I did something I normally don't do, and purchased a Two Year Extended Warranty, just in case.

    SDA SRS 2.3TL's/SDA SRS 3.1TL's/SDA CRS+4.1TL's and some other stuff
  • CH46ECH46E Posts: 1,757
    edited January 21
    Wardsweb wrote: »
    This weekend I replaced the fans in my Behringer amp with some from Artic Ice. The factory fans had a 45dB noise level. The new ones are 15dB. I also painted it black (it was silver). I didn't take a before picture, so here is one I cropped out of an older picture.

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    How easy was installing the fans? Do you happen to have a link to where you got yours? I have a NX3000 and it sits behind the couch where my subs are. They fans are so noisey I cant run YPAO calibration with this amp on. I have to set the amp out side the room and run a longer speaker wire. Its ridiculous.

    That black paint job you gave it really makes it look a lit better. Nice job.
  • WardswebWardsweb Posts: 856
    Hey CH46E, your moniker gave me flash backs of cross decking. The good old days of "shitters" and "frogs". Anyway, I will send you a link and pictures of the change. It is really easy.
    Living room: Clearaudio Champion II turntable, EAR 834P phono pre, Auralic Altair DAC/server, PS Audio Quintessence power, DIY 6H30 Class A Linestage, ASL AQ1006 845 DT MKII mono block amplifers, DIY Altec/JBL speakers, DIY Baltic birch rack
    Sun room: DIY Nelson Pass B1 w/Korg NuTube pre, Logitech Bluetooth, DIY EL34 amp, JBL C50 Olympus speakers with custom Smith horns, Mapleshade Samson rack
    Den: Onkyo TX-NR929 receiver, Oppo BDP-103 player, Panamax M5400-PM power, Behringer EP 4000 sub amp, Electrovoice DX-38 active, Klipsch Jubilee speakers, Martin Logan Cinema center, JBL SAT2 surrounds, Danley DTS-10 sub
    Dining room: Shanling CD-T1500 SACD, Sumo Athena pre, SST Ampzilla 2000 amps, Quad 2905 speakers
  • TEAforONETEAforONE Posts: 339
    I've been using an OPPO UDP-203 as a Transport into my DAC for a couple of years. I decided to sell the 203, as used prices are quite good it seems.

    I replaced the OPPO with an Audiolab 6000CDT. This unit is strictly a CD Transport with no Internal DAC.

    Right out of the box, the 6000CDT is head and shoulders above the playback I was getting from the OPPO. Very pleased so far :)

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    Very clean and elegant looking. I've heard great things about the Audiolab transports. Enjoy!

    Ray
    First Watt,Monarchy Audio,Aric Audio,Promitheus Audio,Pro-Ject,Hornshoppe,Nola,HSU,Onkyo.
  • displaynamedisplayname Posts: 569
    I've been using an OPPO UDP-203 as a Transport into my DAC for a couple of years. I decided to sell the 203, as used prices are quite good it seems.

    I replaced the OPPO with an Audiolab 6000CDT. This unit is strictly a CD Transport with no Internal DAC.

    Right out of the box, the 6000CDT is head and shoulders above the playback I was getting from the OPPO. Very pleased so far :)

    40d0a8jw1yzv.jpg
    I debated between the 6000CDT and the CXC. I liked the servo concept in the CXC, and once they had the closeout prices hit I decided it was time to jump on it.
    The fact that they also put out a "new" version that is exactly the same as the previous version also gave me confidence given that they were moving forward with the existing design.
    Analog: MoFi MasterTracker > MoFi UltraDeck > Sutherland 20/20
    Digital: Cambridge CXC / Streaming > Cambridge CXN v2
    MastersounD Dueventi > Usher T-515 or Arcam rHead > Hifiman HE4XX
    Discogs
  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 7,549
    Both good transport options in the ~$500 range. I would love to compare them back to back to see if I could hear any difference between them.
    "Electronic music is human sound adapting to indulge technology, and for some, it feels like the signature sound of energy. New and abstract sounds over hypnotic rhythms can conjure vast soundscapes for escape, pleasure, and transcendence."
  • halohalo Posts: 5,428
    edited January 21
    Clipdat wrote: »
    Both good transport options in the ~$500 range. I would love to compare them back to back to see if I could hear any difference between them.

    You could reach out to them for a review sample
  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 7,549
    edited January 21
    Meh. I'd rather review the Luxman L-590AXII.

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    http://www.luxman.com/product/detail.php?id=1

    30wpc pure Class A!
    "Electronic music is human sound adapting to indulge technology, and for some, it feels like the signature sound of energy. New and abstract sounds over hypnotic rhythms can conjure vast soundscapes for escape, pleasure, and transcendence."
  • Mike ReeterMike Reeter Posts: 3,714
    I've been using an OPPO UDP-203 as a Transport into my DAC for a couple of years. I decided to sell the 203, as used prices are quite good it seems.

    I replaced the OPPO with an Audiolab 6000CDT. This unit is strictly a CD Transport with no Internal DAC.

    Right out of the box, the 6000CDT is head and shoulders above the playback I was getting from the OPPO. Very pleased so far :)

    40d0a8jw1yzv.jpg
    I debated between the 6000CDT and the CXC. I liked the servo concept in the CXC, and once they had the closeout prices hit I decided it was time to jump on it.
    The fact that they also put out a "new" version that is exactly the same as the previous version also gave me confidence given that they were moving forward with the existing design.

    Yes, my choice was between these two also. They both have good reviews and support. It seems like there is not much available out there besides them, until you get into the 2-4K range.

    I'd love to have a Jay's Transport, but can't stand the Tariff ;)
    treitz3 wrote: »
    I bet it was Mike. LOL

    Nice.

    Tom

    Ha! Yes, I picked up the the OPPO simply because of it's Die-Hard Disc Mechanism. I never inserted a DVD into it, strictly used it as a Transport.

    Didn't know what I was missing...until I did.

    SDA SRS 2.3TL's/SDA SRS 3.1TL's/SDA CRS+4.1TL's and some other stuff
  • displaynamedisplayname Posts: 569
    I've been using an OPPO UDP-203 as a Transport into my DAC for a couple of years. I decided to sell the 203, as used prices are quite good it seems.

    I replaced the OPPO with an Audiolab 6000CDT. This unit is strictly a CD Transport with no Internal DAC.

    Right out of the box, the 6000CDT is head and shoulders above the playback I was getting from the OPPO. Very pleased so far :)

    40d0a8jw1yzv.jpg
    I debated between the 6000CDT and the CXC. I liked the servo concept in the CXC, and once they had the closeout prices hit I decided it was time to jump on it.
    The fact that they also put out a "new" version that is exactly the same as the previous version also gave me confidence given that they were moving forward with the existing design.

    Yes, my choice was between these two also. They both have good reviews and support. It seems like there is not much available out there besides them, until you get into the 2-4K range.

    I'd love to have a Jay's Transport, but can't stand the Tariff ;)
    treitz3 wrote: »
    I bet it was Mike. LOL

    Nice.

    Tom

    Ha! Yes, I picked up the the OPPO simply because of it's Die-Hard Disc Mechanism. I never inserted a DVD into it, strictly used it as a Transport.

    Didn't know what I was missing...until I did.

    Yeah, Marvin has the Jays and it is killer. I just don't spin CDs enough to justify the cost.
    Analog: MoFi MasterTracker > MoFi UltraDeck > Sutherland 20/20
    Digital: Cambridge CXC / Streaming > Cambridge CXN v2
    MastersounD Dueventi > Usher T-515 or Arcam rHead > Hifiman HE4XX
    Discogs
  • BlueFoxBlueFox Posts: 12,594
    I've been using an OPPO UDP-203 as a Transport into my DAC for a couple of years. I decided to sell the 203, as used prices are quite good it seems.

    I replaced the OPPO with an Audiolab 6000CDT. This unit is strictly a CD Transport with no Internal DAC.

    Right out of the box, the 6000CDT is head and shoulders above the playback I was getting from the OPPO. Very pleased so far :)

    40d0a8jw1yzv.jpg

    Since the same digital file from the CD is going to the DAC from either the Oppo or the Audiolab what exactly is the difference in sound?
    Bud - Silicon Valley

    Lumin X1
    Sony XA-5400ES SACD
    Pass XP-22 pre, X600.5 amps
    Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers, SPOD spikes

    Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR on preamp, Denali 2000 (2) on amps
    Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
    Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables

    Mapleshade Samson V.3 four shelf solid maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
    Three 20 amp circuits.
  • Mike ReeterMike Reeter Posts: 3,714
    BlueFox wrote: »
    I've been using an OPPO UDP-203 as a Transport into my DAC for a couple of years. I decided to sell the 203, as used prices are quite good it seems.

    I replaced the OPPO with an Audiolab 6000CDT. This unit is strictly a CD Transport with no Internal DAC.

    Right out of the box, the 6000CDT is head and shoulders above the playback I was getting from the OPPO. Very pleased so far :)

    40d0a8jw1yzv.jpg

    Since the same digital file from the CD is going to the DAC from either the Oppo or the Audiolab what exactly is the difference in sound?

    That certainly seems to be the consensus, that any Transport is just delivering the same X's & O's. But, the Audiolab is revealing much more information from every CD I've loaded into it.

    Better dynamics, space, livelier, realism comes to mind. The overall presentation is larger in scale than compared to the OPPO. The 16/44 CD's are rivaling some Hi Res files I've played with.

    I can't explain it very well, I just know what I'm hearing is the best Digital that I've experienced in my setup to date.



    SDA SRS 2.3TL's/SDA SRS 3.1TL's/SDA CRS+4.1TL's and some other stuff
  • treitz3treitz3 Posts: 13,902
    edited January 21
    It's akin to changing out a cartridge on an LP player.

    That's my story and I'm stickin' to it!

    Tom
    In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence.

    ~ The best way to enjoy digital music reproduction is to never listen to good analogue reproduction ~

    ~ Not all things that can be measured can be heard and not all things heard can be measured ~

    ~ When the law ends, tyranny begins ~
  • BlueFoxBlueFox Posts: 12,594
    BlueFox wrote: »
    I've been using an OPPO UDP-203 as a Transport into my DAC for a couple of years. I decided to sell the 203, as used prices are quite good it seems.

    I replaced the OPPO with an Audiolab 6000CDT. This unit is strictly a CD Transport with no Internal DAC.

    Right out of the box, the 6000CDT is head and shoulders above the playback I was getting from the OPPO. Very pleased so far :)

    40d0a8jw1yzv.jpg

    Since the same digital file from the CD is going to the DAC from either the Oppo or the Audiolab what exactly is the difference in sound?

    That certainly seems to be the consensus, that any Transport is just delivering the same X's & O's. But, the Audiolab is revealing much more information from every CD I've loaded into it.

    Better dynamics, space, livelier, realism comes to mind. The overall presentation is larger in scale than compared to the OPPO. The 16/44 CD's are rivaling some Hi Res files I've played with.

    I can't explain it very well, I just know what I'm hearing is the best Digital that I've experienced in my setup to date.



    Thanks. I think the issue is how accurate the laser reads the pits, and non pits. I seem to remember reading more accurate reading reduces jitter.
    Bud - Silicon Valley

    Lumin X1
    Sony XA-5400ES SACD
    Pass XP-22 pre, X600.5 amps
    Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers, SPOD spikes

    Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR on preamp, Denali 2000 (2) on amps
    Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
    Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables

    Mapleshade Samson V.3 four shelf solid maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
    Three 20 amp circuits.
  • treitz3treitz3 Posts: 13,902
    Then you have the clock differential and a slew of other things that can affect sound quality. Everything affects everything.

    You remember Amir, right? He got into all that jazz. I could care less but he did know about these kinds of things. All I care about is the end result as to what hits these ears.

    Tom
    In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence.

    ~ The best way to enjoy digital music reproduction is to never listen to good analogue reproduction ~

    ~ Not all things that can be measured can be heard and not all things heard can be measured ~

    ~ When the law ends, tyranny begins ~
  • Mike ReeterMike Reeter Posts: 3,714
    BlueFox wrote: »
    BlueFox wrote: »
    I've been using an OPPO UDP-203 as a Transport into my DAC for a couple of years. I decided to sell the 203, as used prices are quite good it seems.

    I replaced the OPPO with an Audiolab 6000CDT. This unit is strictly a CD Transport with no Internal DAC.

    Right out of the box, the 6000CDT is head and shoulders above the playback I was getting from the OPPO. Very pleased so far :)

    40d0a8jw1yzv.jpg

    Since the same digital file from the CD is going to the DAC from either the Oppo or the Audiolab what exactly is the difference in sound?

    That certainly seems to be the consensus, that any Transport is just delivering the same X's & O's. But, the Audiolab is revealing much more information from every CD I've loaded into it.

    Better dynamics, space, livelier, realism comes to mind. The overall presentation is larger in scale than compared to the OPPO. The 16/44 CD's are rivaling some Hi Res files I've played with.

    I can't explain it very well, I just know what I'm hearing is the best Digital that I've experienced in my setup to date.



    Thanks. I think the issue is how accurate the laser reads the pits, and non pits. I seem to remember reading more accurate reading reduces jitter.

    That sounds good and certainly makes sense to me :D

    SDA SRS 2.3TL's/SDA SRS 3.1TL's/SDA CRS+4.1TL's and some other stuff
  • nooshinjohnnooshinjohn Posts: 21,954
    Chasing ones and zeros can be every bit as involved and expensive as spinning vinyl...
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, TriangleArt Reference SE with Pass Labs Xono Phono Preamp, Walker Precision Motor Drive, ClearAudio Goldfinger Diamond v2 cartridge and Origin Conquerer Mk3c tonearm, Polk Audio "Signature" Reference Series 1.2TL with complete mods, Pass Labs X0.2 three chassis preamp, PS Audio PerfectWave DAC MkII, Krell Evolution 505 SACD Player, Pioneer Elite SC-LX701, Oppo UDP-205 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds.

    Saying that it's "too hard" to pursue your dreams is no different than admitting to yourself that you are too lazy to achieve them.

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  • classic carlclassic carl Posts: 588
    edited January 22
    I listened to mine.

    I'm away from home at our condo in Florida for the winter. The "Presidential" system that I brought with me consists of a Franklin Audio IA150 power amp, a Grant Fidelity TubeDAC-09, a pair of Polk RT55i speakers and a Squeezebox Touch playing lossless files from my laptop. I have almost 900 CDs ripped to the laptop. Everything but the speakers will come home with me in the spring.

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    Main System:
    Proton AA-1150 ~ Yamaha C-4 ~ Furman Elite-15 DMi ~ Sennheiser HD600 ~ Monitor Audio Silver RS8 ~ Monitor Audio FB210 ~ Martin Logan Dynamo ~ Teac R-919X ~ Marantz CD5003 ~ Squeezebox Classic ~ Music Hall dac25.2 ~ Dual 1229/Acutex M312 III STR ~ Music Hall mmf-5.1/Goldring 1012GX ~ Music Hall Cruise Control 2.0 ~ Optonica RB-7705/Audio Technica AT3500S/ATN12S ~ NAD PP 3i

    Home Theater:
    LG 47GA6400 ~ Yamaha RX-V800 ~ Furman Elite-15 DMi ~ Marantz DV6001 ~ Paradigm Monitor 9 v1 ~ Polk Audio RT35i ~ CS400i ~ (2) PSW450

  • Mike ReeterMike Reeter Posts: 3,714
    I listened to mine.

    I'm away from home at our condo in Florida for the winter. The "Presidential" system that I brought with me consists of a Franklin Audio IA150 power amp, a Grant Fidelity TubeDAC-09, a pair of Polk RT55i speakers and a Squeezebox Touch playing lossless files from my laptop. I have almost 900 CDs ripped to the laptop. Everything but the speakers will come home with me in the spring.

    Sounds like a nice Winter Home Setup, I still have my RT55i's, they are doing duty as the Mains in our modest HT Setup.

    btw, we have our eyes set on Florida Winters in a few years when my wife retires. I hope to live long enough :)

    SDA SRS 2.3TL's/SDA SRS 3.1TL's/SDA CRS+4.1TL's and some other stuff
  • motorstereomotorstereo Posts: 1,396
    Added another one of these Furutech flux 50's. Now I have one on each amp :)
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  • @motorstereo How much and what has been your observations with respect to how your system sounds? I haven't done any power cords or outlets even in my system. Not sure if its the lowest hanging fruit in my system yet.
    George / NJ

    Polk 7B main speakers (1979, orig owner)
    Martin Logan Dynamo sub
    Crown D150 amp
    iFi nano iDSD DAC
    iPurifier3
    iDefender w/ iPower PS
    iFi Mercury 0.5m OFHC continuous cast copper USB cable
    Custom Ribbon Speaker Cables, 5ft long, 4N Copper, 14 gauge, ultra low inductance
    Custom Vibration Isolation Speaker Stands and Sub Platform
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