My personal experience: Acoustic Zen Sartori speaker wires

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  • befuddle
    befuddle Posts: 126
    edited December 2016
    Redned. while i can somewhat see your intent. But I assume that given to a perspective of common sense they're are a very few that would still disagree that some measure of performance enhancement can be achieved in the use of quality cable.But however with regards to the extravagant cost high-end manufactures expect for their TOTL offerings its likely the debate would still naturally continue from a cost to performance standpoint
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • lightman1
    lightman1 Posts: 10,788
    edited December 2016
    Hey B-rock....Nelson Pass was a two-bit hack who couldn't design a single pole switch. Plagiarized most of his work anyways.




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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited December 2016
    :* Come say that to my face Russ!
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • lightman1
    lightman1 Posts: 10,788
    heiney9 wrote: »
    :* Come say that to my face Russ!

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  • lightman1
    lightman1 Posts: 10,788
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  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,552
    i can't stop staring at your random gif @lightman1
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  • DarqueKnight
    DarqueKnight Posts: 6,765
    edited December 2016
    polrbehr wrote: »
    Well, this thread certainly got sanitized today. B)

    Yes, as did the entire forum. ;)

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  • lightman1
    lightman1 Posts: 10,788
    Open for business!
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  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,552
    DarqueKnight wrote: »
    polrbehr wrote: »
    Well, this thread certainly got sanitized today. B)

    Yes, as did the entire forum. ;)

    trek-spock-planning-crp_zpsfmrr7ohv.jpg

    What you mean?
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  • kharp1
    kharp1 Posts: 3,453
    Something to keep in mind is that synchronicity on a system is paramount. For some systems the TOTL may not be the best fit for that particular system. I certainly understand the desire to know if the TOTL is within ones means, especially if that persons components are in the TOTL neighborhood, however, for many others there can be great improvement to a system by looking for the deals in the sweet spot of their product line. Thankfully, the cable makers have made provisions for all of us. For those that disavow cable significance there are cables made for you as well.

    Glad to see some sanity back, for a moment at least, in this thread. Peace and good tunes to all.
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  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    kharp1 wrote: »
    Something to keep in mind is that synchronicity on a system is paramount.

    "Synchronicity". ??? LOL

    I do like that better than the yuppie word; Synergy. :)



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  • WagnerRC
    WagnerRC Posts: 2,157
    I use the satori cables in 2 out of my 4 systems. The pro 4 cables and Mit cables work well on the others. It's nice to have choices.
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  • ken brydson
    ken brydson Posts: 8,759
    DSkip wrote: »
    The Police must be catching up to him.

    I see what you did there... ;)
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  • kharp1
    kharp1 Posts: 3,453
    They'll never take me alive!

    You will know...synchronicity
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  • Nightfall
    Nightfall Posts: 10,086
    Joey_V wrote: »
    DarqueKnight wrote: »
    polrbehr wrote: »
    Well, this thread certainly got sanitized today. B)

    Yes, as did the entire forum. ;)

    What you mean?

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    afterburnt wrote: »
    They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.

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  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,552
    Dang. I guess the boom was lowered.
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  • Dabutcher
    Dabutcher Posts: 2,596
    This forum has always been good to me. I have learned more in the last ten years than the previous forty. There was an opportunity a few years back to demo the LsiM 703's at my house and I liked them a lot. Now finally they are in my living room system and the wife is happy because of the smaller size compared to the previous M10 or M70's I had in there. Also because of this forum I was able to demo some pretty expensive MIT speaker cables and interconnects. Did I notice a difference over the Monster cables? Not really. But I did buy the grey MIT Shotgun cables when they came up for sale used at a great price. (Thanks Jesse for the idea!). I was banned for thirty days for a political link right before the election. Still here. Most of us here get along great. Thank you to everyone here. Thanks for the review Joey. Peace. D
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  • gce
    gce Posts: 2,158
    Nice to see a cable thread all cleaned up. Great review Joey! I have been looking to try out some AQ's. I was also looking at the AZ's but now after hearing the comments from Skip I may try some Equinox's or Eclipse's.

    There's so many cables out there it's hard to find a place to jump in. :|
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  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,552
    edited December 2016
    gce wrote: »
    Nice to see a cable thread all cleaned up. Great review Joey! I have been looking to try out some AQ's. I was also looking at the AZ's but now after hearing the comments from Skip I may try some Equinox's or Eclipse's.

    There's so many cables out there it's hard to find a place to jump in. :|

    It's tough to know which is which. I just heard aq on a system similar to mine and it sounds like how I feel it should progress towards with each component upgrade.

    WW has a following on audioaficionado where their bossman runs the show and has their totl gear.

    Shunyata has a following too.

    AQ as well.

    I have no regrets with the wel. After hearing the AZ, I am even more impressed with the wel much moreso than before. I like the AQ philosophy and their explanations for their cables
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  • kharp1
    kharp1 Posts: 3,453
    Joey_V wrote: »
    gce wrote: »
    I have no regrets with the wel. After hearing the AZ, I am even more impressed with the wel much moreso than before. I like the AQ philosophy and their explanations for their cables

    Sometimes it's nice to do further testing to confirm what you initially felt and and reaffirm your decision to go with that particular product.

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  • rooftop59
    rooftop59 Posts: 8,121
    edited February 2019
    @rae673 You literally joined to post this rambling comment?!? Please go somewhere else if all you want to do is stir up trouble. If you to actually engage and talk audio then stick around, this is a great forum.
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  • halo
    halo Posts: 5,616
    rooftop59 wrote: »
    @rae673 You literally joined to post this rambling comment?!? Please go somewhere else if all you want to do is stir up trouble. If you to actually engage and talk audio then stick around, this is a great forum.

    I think it’s pretty clear what @rae673 wants. He or she wants someone to buy him or her a latte (from Starbucks no less). :p
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  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 25,441
    rae673 wrote: »
    Halo, sorry you and your Starbucks buddy don't have any reading comprehension skills. Not a forum I'll visit again,. Try this one. When it comes to knowledge! Better to keep your mouth shut when your ignorant, then open it and prove it!

    WOW there's a draft....
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  • Clipdat
    Clipdat Posts: 12,934
    rae673 wrote: »
    when your ignorant

    Oh, the irony.
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  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    His post has disappeared.
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    Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers; SPOD spikes

    Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR on source, Denali 2000 (2) on amps
    Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
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  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,552
    Did I miss something?
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  • erniejade
    erniejade Posts: 6,321
    It seemed like they were here just to cause trouble.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,546
    Joey_V wrote: »
    Did I miss something?

    Nope!
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

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