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  • Rick88Rick88 Posts: 13,189
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    "Life is one grand, sweet song, so start the music." ~ Ronald Reagan

    “I love songs about horses, railroads, land, Judgment Day, family, hard times, whiskey, courtship, marriage, adultery, separation, murder, war, prison, rambling, damnation, home, salvation, death, pride, humor, piety, rebellion, patriotism, larceny, determination, tragedy, rowdiness, heartbreak and love. And Mother. And God.” ~ Johnny Cash




  • msgmsg Posts: 5,935
    Chris Isaak's Blue Spanish Sky on the S20s at reference, no sub - makes me feel like I'm in a movie scene.

    Trumpet and loungy, seedy night club jazz stuff sounds absolutely amazing to me on these speakers. Brushes on drums as well - so very comfortably detailed!

    What is that when the trumpet is higher pitched? Is that when they're using a mute?

    Very fun speakers. A touch fat and muddled, but haven't quite figured out what/where that's going on. It's like some low vocals are pushed up a bit, causing a bit of muddy resonance at times, but I'm just crudely set up with them right now, so take that with a grain. I'll try another day with closer attention to setup, and maybe a sub in the mix to see if it cleans up.

    It's turning into one of those late - Okay, just one more... nights. I've been saying that for the past hour.
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  • xsmixsmi Posts: 1,535
    Well, I've got an old RX-V2090 that I'm not afraid to hook up to any pair of speakers and crank the volume. It never sounds fatiguing and has always given me a very lush sound. This receiver was released when many said that Yamaha's were bright electronics. This beast defied all of the naysayers.
    2-channel
    Belles 22A Pre, Emotiva XPA-2 Gen 2, Marantz SA8005, Pro-Ject Debut Carbon Turntable, Pro-Ject Phono Box MM, Magnepan LRS, Polk Audio SDA-SRS, AudioQuest Cable throughout. Pro-Ject RPM 5.1 (soon)
  • msgmsg Posts: 5,935
    Beautiful experience on S20s, both of these tracks. If the S20s are any indication, I imagine S60s must absolutely kill it.
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  • mrlorenmrloren Posts: 2,326
    edited June 2017
    When I have my after work unwind, I mostly use my main HT downstairs with the S60. just a fantastic speaker. If mother in law is sleeping or someone watching TV I will crank up the bedroom HT with the S20. It's a little less but darn good speakers.

    Need mother in law to move out so it will be S60 all the time....
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    When I was a kid my parents told me to turn it down. Now I'm an adult and my kids tell me to turn it down.

    Family Room:
    Samsung UN75RU710DFXZA,
    Denon AVR-X4400H, Emotiva XPA3 GEN3
    Oppo BDP-93,Sony UBP-X800BM, WD Live HUB.
    Main: Polk LsiM 705
    Center: Polk LSiM 704C
    Front High/Rear High In-Ceiling Polk 80F/X RT
    Surrounds: Polk S15
    Sub: HSU VTF3-MK5

    Bed Room;
    Marantz SR5010, BDP-S270
    Main: Polk Signature S20
    Center: Polk Signature S35
    Rear: Polk R15
    Sub: HSU STF-2

    Working Warehouse;
    Sony 2100ES AVR, Sony DVP-NS3100ES for disc
    Cerwin Vega AT-12 (blasters) Advent Prodigy (listening)
    Old sony 12" Sub
    Mini tower PC with 400GB of music
  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 44,978
    msg wrote: »
    Alright Jesse - dish.
    What'cha got in store for the S20s?
    Rebuilt the crossovers yet?

    Don't know, they are collecting dust right now.
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  • deronb1deronb1 Posts: 5,094
    I would put my Onkyo TX-SR 805, C.2007 up against almost any modern day AVR, for power and sq.
  • Jimbo18Jimbo18 Posts: 2,203
    msg wrote: »
    Beautiful experience on S20s, both of these tracks. If the S20s are any indication, I imagine S60s must absolutely kill it.
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    And your S20's aren't broken in yet, are they? Should only get better.

    Really making me wish I had some extra cash.
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    Bedroom - Samsung UN50RU7200, Denon 2808ci, Monitor 5jr+ Series 2, Polk T30 center, Furez 10/2,
  • K_MK_M Posts: 1,617
    tonyb wrote: »
    F1nut wrote: »
    Perhaps the real question here is have you sat down and tried a few high end amps and if so, which ones? I ask for specifics because you're always so vague. You also talk in circles to avoid answering specific questions, so I'm hoping for something different this time.

    I think the real question some of you guys who are so opinionated on this subject might want to consider is that while your "stereotype" of AVRs (no pun intended) is based on older equipment as Tony mentioned, you probably haven't really had the opportunity to evaluate the more modern modern AVRs. AVRs produced after 2010 are different animals than the type we grew up with.

    Also, comparing high end amps to lower end (and significantly less expensive AVRs) will always help to reinforce your stereotype but that's about all it accomplishes. On the other hand one could take a modern high-end AVR and blow away a lower end far less-expensive separate amplifier, but that wouldn't really be too surprising either to most people.

    Separates won't always outperform an AVR but an advantage that a separate has is that they can offer more flexibility down the road. Also separates tend to be geared more towards the higher-end while AVRs come in all flavors.



    Mostly the points of contention that happen on the forum comes from the various levels of audio members have experience with. One level is always at odds with another.....don't waste your money/you need to spend big bucks yada yada. Those are extreme examples but it happens all the time.

    My suggestion is to listen....listen before typing, listen to what a poster is asking for. Stop typing if the conversation goes outside your area of expertise/experience. Do that, and these trivial arguments would disappear.

    I would agree, but somewhat Not exactly for the reason you state.

    'If you heard better you would not say that"
    That is actually a huge assumption, that anyone that dares to defend or say good about anything inexpensive, must not know any better.

    The "Assumption" is what irks most people.

    Some describe everything in audio as either Utterly Fantastic or Utter Crap.
    That irks some people.

    In the end it comes down to something I mentioned before.

    "You must agree or be bashed"

    Quit assuming (not you in particular tony) someone that does not agree is not agreeing due to lack of experience.
    Sometimes, people simply do not agree for many reasons.
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  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 44,978
    K_M wrote: »

    I would agree, but somewhat Not exactly for the reason you state.

    'If you heard better you would not say that"
    That is actually a huge assumption, that anyone that dares to defend or say good about anything inexpensive, must not know any better.

    The "Assumption" is what irks most people.

    Some describe everything in audio as either Utterly Fantastic or Utter Crap.
    That irks some people.

    In the end it comes down to something I mentioned before.

    "You must agree or be bashed"

    Quit assuming (not you in particular tony) someone that does not agree is not agreeing due to lack of experience.
    Sometimes, people simply do not agree for many reasons.

    This entire post is avoidance, assumptions and deflection. It is also an attempt to dictate to others how to think and speak, which isn't going to happen, so quit trying.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

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  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 44,978
    Perhaps the real question here is have you sat down and tried a few high end amps and if so, which ones? I ask for specifics because you're always so vague. You also talk in circles to avoid answering specific questions, so I'm hoping for something different this time.

    Well?
    Political Correctness'.........defined

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  • GatecrasherGatecrasher Posts: 1,596
    F1nut wrote: »
    msg wrote: »
    Alright Jesse - dish.
    What'cha got in store for the S20s?
    Rebuilt the crossovers yet?

    Don't know, they are collecting dust right now.

    Why don't you clean them up real nice and start a "Good Karma" thread with them for your Polk brethren?

    I'm in.
  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 44,978
    Ummmm......no.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

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  • GatecrasherGatecrasher Posts: 1,596
    It was just a suggestion. I mean if they are just collecting dust.........
  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 44,978
    More pot stirring, eh gate.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

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  • msgmsg Posts: 5,935
    edited June 2017
    Jimbo18 wrote: »
    msg wrote: »
    Beautiful experience on S20s, both of these tracks. If the S20s are any indication, I imagine S60s must absolutely kill it.
    4kjkygkua8rw.jpg

    And your S20's aren't broken in yet, are they? Should only get better.

    Really making me wish I had some extra cash.
    Hey Jimbo,
    sorry, missed your message up there in the fray of the amp vs AVR argument. I wondered for a minute how I even got here. Be nice if someone would look back and identify the beginning of that tangent and either move it to its own thread or delete it and the related others altogether. It's making an embarrassing mess of what could be, IMHO, a more valuable thread full of Q&A and feedback on the Signatures, though I think I'm guilty of encouraging the derail as well, not realizing the futility. (admittedly guilty on other threads as well)

    Anywayyy...

    Yes, enjoying them so far. Had them running non-stop since last Thursday, but not at performance volume until last night. I think the drivers still need some time, and others say they continue to smooth out. Got them in the main combo system for now. They seemed a little tubby in the male vocals last night for TV in stereo mode with no sub, but again, need to mess with setup and placement a bit.

    No rush, they'll be around :)
    You might even nab some on CL or an F&F at some point.
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  • GatecrasherGatecrasher Posts: 1,596
    F1nut wrote: »
    More pot stirring, eh gate.

    Not really. I prefer my pot shaken not stirred.
  • K_MK_M Posts: 1,617
    msg wrote: »
    Jimbo18 wrote: »
    msg wrote: »
    Beautiful experience on S20s, both of these tracks. If the S20s are any indication, I imagine S60s must absolutely kill it.
    4kjkygkua8rw.jpg

    And your S20's aren't broken in yet, are they? Should only get better.

    Really making me wish I had some extra cash.
    Hey Jimbo,
    sorry, missed your message up there in the fray of the amp vs AVR argument. I wondered for a minute how I even got here. Be nice if someone would look back and identify the beginning of that tangent and either move it to its own thread or delete it and the related others altogether. It's making an embarrassing mess of what could be, IMHO, a more valuable thread full of Q&A and feedback on the Signatures, though I think I'm guilty of encouraging the derail as well, not realizing the futility. (admittedly guilty on other threads as well)

    Anywayyy...

    Yes, enjoying them so far. Had them running non-stop since last Thursday, but not at performance volume until last night. I think the drivers still need some time, and others say they continue to smooth out. Got them in the main combo system for now. They seemed a little tubby in the male vocals last night for TV in stereo mode with no sub, but again, need to mess with setup and placement a bit.

    No rush, they'll be around :)
    Might even nab some on CL or an F&F at some point.

    Top of page 15, the thread went off on a tangent about power of receivers, and how they are rated and impedances of speakers etc.
    Lsi15, Lsi9, LsiC,Rta11t,M5jr+,M4, SDA SRS 2.3TL, Rti6....Still listing stuff, a work in progress.
    B+W-Sold
    Electro Voice EV-SIX
    Infinity-Sold
    Advent-Now gone
    Yamaha A-S801
    Yamaha RX-V377
    Yamaha RX-A860
    Yamaha RX-A3060
    Harman Kardon Hk-350i
    Harman Kardon Hk-........
    Harman Kardon PM-665
    Harman Kardon HK-775
    Pioneer.......Stereo Receiver

  • msgmsg Posts: 5,935
    Skip, which Signatures do you still have in house?
    Which have you run with the Ampino?

    In my audition time with yours, agreed, I was pleasantly surprised at the sound quality of that little unit with the other Polk speakers I tried with it, like the M10s and 703s. Can't remember whether I tried it with LSi7s, but I do recall being generally impressed with the sound quality and performance for its size, weight, and build. I didn't expect much at all from it. Wasn't impactful or as controlled as other gear, but it had pleasing presentation and detail. Really, I can't describe it better than what you said - romantic. Hard to define until you hear it. Like trying to describe a color to someone.
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  • dhb220dhb220 Posts: 7
    My S60s are still quite new and it will take some time for them to break in. However, I'm still loving the sound on a daily basis for TV, music, and movies.

    I was in a Miles Davis mood the other night. Even with a 2.0 configuration, the sound was fantastic (disclaimer: the S60s were connected to my Crown XLS amp). I did eventually turn on my BIC F12 subwoofer to appreciate the depth from the sound of a double bass instrument. I toggled through most of the presets on my Onkyo TX-NR828 to test 5.1 and 7.1. The S20s really shined in All Ch Stereo mode from the rear. Most of the other modes were too limiting - Stereo and All Channel Stereo were my preferred listening modes given the type of music I was listening to. Between the sound and short glass of straight Disaronno, I got lost in the sound for a good 45 minutes to 1 hour. Huge fan of the Signature series....
    Living Room:
    Samsung UN50HU6950FXZA with SEK-3500U/ZA Evolution Kit || Onkyo TX-NR646 7.2 (Atmos Config) || Polk TL3/TL2 Sats || Klipsch R-10SWi Sub || Nvidia Shield || Xbox One S
    Media Room:
    Sharp LC-70LE757 || Onkyo TX-NR828 7.2 || Crown XLI800 Amp || Polk Signature S60 L/R S35 Center S20 (Sides) S10 (Rear) || BIC F12 Sub|| Windows 10 HTPC || Xbox One || Sony BDP-S5100 Blu-ray Player

  • dsharpedsharpe Posts: 5
    I have a quick note on the s35. I was getting some sort of weird resonance peak with certain dialogues. Especially with lower pitched female dialogues. I ended up putting some small prices of foam right under the ports. This seemed to solve the problem. I believe these somehow we're interacting with the TV stand it sits on.
  • motorhead43026motorhead43026 Posts: 3,734
    I just put an Anthem 225 behind the S60's, and it is nothing but goodness.
    2 channel: Anthem 225 Integrated amp; Parasound Ztuner; TechnicsTT SL1350; Vincent PHO-8 phono pre; Marantz CD6005 spinner; Polk SDA2BTL's; LAT International speaker cables, ZU Mission IC's and power cables all into a PS Audio Dectet Power center.

    Other; S60'S, M10 series II, M7C's, Hafler XL600 amp, RB-980BX, Parasound HCA-1500 amp , P5 preamp, all in storage. All vintage Polk have had crossover rebuilds and tweeter upgrades.

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  • halohalo Posts: 5,579
    F1nut wrote: »
    Don't know, they are collecting dust right now.

    Jesse,

    What is your impression/thoughts of the S20 bookshelf speakers?
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