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Very impressive components and metal work. What improvements do you expect in the sound of the CRS+ without the components inside? I realize you will gain some volume inside the cabinet without the crossovers mounted in there but I thought the passive radiator was turned to the volume of the cabinet. Have you taken that into consideration?
How big of an issue is that?
What % volume is increased?
Is there TS parameters etc... for the drivers and passive radiator?
Stock crossovers components are tiny compared to the replacements so not much increased and even if it does, easy to add something if really want to test but Toolfan will know if it needs any further test once it's done.
Sonus Faber Concerto Grand Piano, Klipsch Heresy, Epicure 20+,T/E 280, Polk 4,4.5,5A.
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Amps: BB275, Crown XLS1500, QSC, Rotel, Luxman R-114, Nakamichi...
The difference in the volume may not be an issue at all. I don't know. More internal volume was the only thing I could see there was to gain by moving the crossovers outside the cabinet. I was just wondering how the extra volume would effect the sound.
SDA 2BTL · Sonicaps · Mills resistors · RDO-198s · New gaskets · H-nuts · Erse inductors · BH5 · Dynamat · Crossover upgrades by westmassguy
Marantz 1504 AVR (front speaker pre-outs to Adcom 555)
Adcom GFA-555 amp · Upgrades & speaker protection added by OldmanSRS
Pioneer DV-610AV DVD/CD player
SDA CRS+ · Hidden away in the closet
Much to do about nothing. Considering that the 2B's use the exact same crossover and have a much larger internal volume there is no issue here.
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Larry after you get them up n running - down the road' you could always add baffles inside the cabinets if it needs to be tame'd up/down some. (Could use brackets with multiple adjustable holes-so you can adjust them to where ya like it ) When doing my crs+tl'd David walked me through it & it did make a difference. Just a thought... Looking forward to end results & everything looks great
Larry after you get them up n running - down the road' you could always add baffles inside the cabinets if it needs to be tame'd up/down some. (Could use brackets with multiple adjustable holes-so you can adjust them to where ya like it ) When doing my crs+tl'd David walked me through it & it did make a difference. Just a thought... Looking forward to end results & everything looks great
Much to do about nothing. Considering that the 2B's use the exact same crossover and have a much larger internal volume there is no issue here.
Yes, but the 2B has a passive radiator designed for the larger volume cabinet.
Consider the Monitor 10 versus the CRS+. They both use a 10" passive and basically the same tweeters and MWs but the M10 passive is a different model number. I think the reason for that is to compensate for the larger internal volume. I'm not being argumentative. I'm just throwing this out for the sake of discussion.
SDA 2BTL · Sonicaps · Mills resistors · RDO-198s · New gaskets · H-nuts · Erse inductors · BH5 · Dynamat · Crossover upgrades by westmassguy
Marantz 1504 AVR (front speaker pre-outs to Adcom 555)
Adcom GFA-555 amp · Upgrades & speaker protection added by OldmanSRS
Pioneer DV-610AV DVD/CD player
SDA CRS+ · Hidden away in the closet
I would love to here those puppies when they a done deal freakin awesome. Hats off to you.
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Polk SDA2btl highly modded
Polk SDA 1C
Polk CS350 LS x2
Polk m5jr
Kimber 8TC
Sony 55" Bravia
Wish list SVS sub
I am at a standstill here, I have everything done, but I would like to have the cabinets redone on the outside (veneer or something of that sort, PSA?) before I put these back together, and I can't seem to find a place in town to do it..
I'm not afraid to learn how to do it especially the four sides but the face concerns me more than anything..
Maybe just some black spray paint? If a person could find some.. LOL!!!
Are you asking about the wood trim around the bezel or about the bezel itself?
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"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
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Jesse was kind enough to help me find a place to take my cabinets for a quote to get them redone in a veneer, I take them in Saturday, and they are close to my house..
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Polk SDA2btl highly modded
Polk SDA 1C
Polk CS350 LS x2
Polk m5jr
Kimber 8TC
Sony 55" Bravia
Wish list SVS sub
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How big of an issue is that?
What % volume is increased?
Is there TS parameters etc... for the drivers and passive radiator?
Stock crossovers components are tiny compared to the replacements so not much increased and even if it does, easy to add something if really want to test but Toolfan will know if it needs any further test once it's done.
Sonus Faber Concerto Grand Piano, Klipsch Heresy, Epicure 20+,T/E 280, Polk 4,4.5,5A.
DB Plus 880, AR 48S, Smaller Advents. SUBs: Monitor Audio. Pre: HK AP2500, C1, Tandberg 3002A.
Amps: BB275, Crown XLS1500, QSC, Rotel, Luxman R-114, Nakamichi...
Marantz 1504 AVR (front speaker pre-outs to Adcom 555)
Adcom GFA-555 amp · Upgrades & speaker protection added by OldmanSRS
Pioneer DV-610AV DVD/CD player
SDA CRS+ · Hidden away in the closet
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
President of Club Polk
Larry after you get them up n running - down the road' you could always add baffles inside the cabinets if it needs to be tame'd up/down some. (Could use brackets with multiple adjustable holes-so you can adjust them to where ya like it ) When doing my crs+tl'd David walked me through it & it did make a difference. Just a thought... Looking forward to end results & everything looks great
...
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I already have the BH5 cut for it..
Consider the Monitor 10 versus the CRS+. They both use a 10" passive and basically the same tweeters and MWs but the M10 passive is a different model number. I think the reason for that is to compensate for the larger internal volume. I'm not being argumentative. I'm just throwing this out for the sake of discussion.
Marantz 1504 AVR (front speaker pre-outs to Adcom 555)
Adcom GFA-555 amp · Upgrades & speaker protection added by OldmanSRS
Pioneer DV-610AV DVD/CD player
SDA CRS+ · Hidden away in the closet
Front: SDA-2ATL forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/143984/my-2as-finally-finished-almost/p1
Center: Custom Built forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/150760/my-center-channel-project/p1
Surrounds & Rears: Custom Built forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/151647/my-surround-project/p1
Sonicaps, Mills, RDO-194s-198s, Dynamat, Hurricane Nuts, Blackhole5
Pioneer Elite VSX-72TXV, Carver PM-600, SVS PB2-Plus Subwoofer
Cables: Speaker: Furez 10/2 with GLS Locking Banana Plugs
Interconnect: Furez 10/2 with SpeakONs
ICs: Custom Furez by Douglas Connections
Den:
Bose 901 Series II Continentals Restored, Re-Built Equalizer with Elna Silmic IIs, Sonicaps, and Silver Mica Caps
Carver CT-3 Pre, Carver C-500
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"And keep her under 70, would you, huh? Betty likes a slow ride"
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Front: SDA-2ATL forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/143984/my-2as-finally-finished-almost/p1
Center: Custom Built forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/150760/my-center-channel-project/p1
Surrounds & Rears: Custom Built forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/151647/my-surround-project/p1
Sonicaps, Mills, RDO-194s-198s, Dynamat, Hurricane Nuts, Blackhole5
Pioneer Elite VSX-72TXV, Carver PM-600, SVS PB2-Plus Subwoofer
Cables: Speaker: Furez 10/2 with GLS Locking Banana Plugs
Interconnect: Furez 10/2 with SpeakONs
ICs: Custom Furez by Douglas Connections
Den:
Bose 901 Series II Continentals Restored, Re-Built Equalizer with Elna Silmic IIs, Sonicaps, and Silver Mica Caps
Carver CT-3 Pre, Carver C-500
dhsspeakerservice.com/
Exclusive Distributor of Gimpod's Custom SDA Circuit Boards
"And keep her under 70, would you, huh? Betty likes a slow ride"
Stainless, that's all Home Depot or Ace Hardware had, I might get some aluminum ones from McMaster Carr..
Front: SDA-2ATL forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/143984/my-2as-finally-finished-almost/p1
Center: Custom Built forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/150760/my-center-channel-project/p1
Surrounds & Rears: Custom Built forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/151647/my-surround-project/p1
Sonicaps, Mills, RDO-194s-198s, Dynamat, Hurricane Nuts, Blackhole5
Pioneer Elite VSX-72TXV, Carver PM-600, SVS PB2-Plus Subwoofer
Cables: Speaker: Furez 10/2 with GLS Locking Banana Plugs
Interconnect: Furez 10/2 with SpeakONs
ICs: Custom Furez by Douglas Connections
Den:
Bose 901 Series II Continentals Restored, Re-Built Equalizer with Elna Silmic IIs, Sonicaps, and Silver Mica Caps
Carver CT-3 Pre, Carver C-500
dhsspeakerservice.com/
Exclusive Distributor of Gimpod's Custom SDA Circuit Boards
"And keep her under 70, would you, huh? Betty likes a slow ride"
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Polk SDA2btl highly modded
Polk SDA 1C
Polk CS350 LS x2
Polk m5jr
Kimber 8TC
Sony 55" Bravia
Wish list SVS sub
I am at a standstill here, I have everything done, but I would like to have the cabinets redone on the outside (veneer or something of that sort, PSA?) before I put these back together, and I can't seem to find a place in town to do it..
I'm not afraid to learn how to do it especially the four sides but the face concerns me more than anything..
Maybe just some black spray paint? If a person could find some.. LOL!!!
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
President of Club Polk
Is the black material damaged?
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
President of Club Polk
http://www.parts-express.com/cat/cabinet-covering/310?N=19864+4294967118&Ne=10166&No=0&Nrpp=16&Nrs=collection()/record[endeca:matches(.,"P_PortalID","1")+and+endeca:matches(.,"P_Searchable","1")]&PortalID=1
Front: SDA-2ATL forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/143984/my-2as-finally-finished-almost/p1
Center: Custom Built forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/150760/my-center-channel-project/p1
Surrounds & Rears: Custom Built forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/151647/my-surround-project/p1
Sonicaps, Mills, RDO-194s-198s, Dynamat, Hurricane Nuts, Blackhole5
Pioneer Elite VSX-72TXV, Carver PM-600, SVS PB2-Plus Subwoofer
Cables: Speaker: Furez 10/2 with GLS Locking Banana Plugs
Interconnect: Furez 10/2 with SpeakONs
ICs: Custom Furez by Douglas Connections
Den:
Bose 901 Series II Continentals Restored, Re-Built Equalizer with Elna Silmic IIs, Sonicaps, and Silver Mica Caps
Carver CT-3 Pre, Carver C-500
dhsspeakerservice.com/
Exclusive Distributor of Gimpod's Custom SDA Circuit Boards
"And keep her under 70, would you, huh? Betty likes a slow ride"
Parasound Halo A 31 OnkyoTX-NR838 Sony XBR55X850B 55" 4K RtiA9 Fronts CsiA6 Center RtiA3 Rears FxiA6 Side Surrounds Dual Psw 111's Oppo 105D Signal Ultra Speaker Cables & IC's Signal Magic Power Cable Technics SL Q300 Panamax MR4300 Audioquest Chocolate HDMI Cables Audioquest Forest USB Cable
2 Channel
Adcom 555II Vincent SA-T1 Marantz SA 15S2 Denon DR-M11 Clearaudio Bluemotion SDA 2.3tl's (Z) edition MIT Terminator II Speaker Cables & IC's Adcom 545II Adcom Gtp-450 Marantz CD5004 Technics M245X SDA 2B's, SDA CRS+
Stuff for the Head
JD LABS C5 Headphone Amplifier, Sennheiser HD 598, Polk Audio Buckle, Polk Audio Hinge, Velodyne vPulse, Bose IE2, Sennheiser CX 200 Street II, Sennheiser MX 365
Shower & Off the beaten path Rigs
Polk Audio Boom Swimmer, Polk Audio Urchin
Jesse was kind enough to help me find a place to take my cabinets for a quote to get them redone in a veneer, I take them in Saturday, and they are close to my house..
Fingers crossed..
Polk SDA2btl highly modded
Polk SDA 1C
Polk CS350 LS x2
Polk m5jr
Kimber 8TC
Sony 55" Bravia
Wish list SVS sub