SDA CRS+ With an External Crossover Twist.... :-)
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That comparison won't last long.Political Correctness'.........defined
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Very impressive components and metal work. What improvements do you expect in the sound of the CRS+ without the components inside? I realize you will gain some volume inside the cabinet without the crossovers mounted in there but I thought the passive radiator was turned to the volume of the cabinet. Have you taken that into consideration?
How big of an issue is that?
What % volume is increased?
Is there TS parameters etc... for the drivers and passive radiator?
Stock crossovers components are tiny compared to the replacements so not much increased and even if it does, easy to add something if really want to test but Toolfan will know if it needs any further test once it's done.
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The difference in the volume may not be an issue at all. I don't know. More internal volume was the only thing I could see there was to gain by moving the crossovers outside the cabinet. I was just wondering how the extra volume would effect the sound.
- SDA 2BTL · Sonicaps · Mills resistors · RDO-198s · New gaskets · H-nuts · Erse inductors · BH5 · Dynamat
- Crossover upgrades by westmassguy
- Marantz 1504 AVR (front speaker pre-outs to Adcom 555)
- Adcom GFA-555 amp · Upgrades & speaker protection added by OldmanSRS
- Pioneer DV-610AV DVD/CD player
- SDA CRS+ · Hidden away in the closet
- SDA 2BTL · Sonicaps · Mills resistors · RDO-198s · New gaskets · H-nuts · Erse inductors · BH5 · Dynamat
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Much to do about nothing. Considering that the 2B's use the exact same crossover and have a much larger internal volume there is no issue here.Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
President of Club Polk -
Old crossover mounts are less than 2% of internal volume. Not an issue on TS parameters.
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Larry after you get them up n running - down the road' you could always add baffles inside the cabinets if it needs to be tame'd up/down some. (Could use brackets with multiple adjustable holes-so you can adjust them to where ya like it ) When doing my crs+tl'd David walked me through it & it did make a difference. Just a thought... Looking forward to end results & everything looks great.. -
Larry after you get them up n running - down the road' you could always add baffles inside the cabinets if it needs to be tame'd up/down some. (Could use brackets with multiple adjustable holes-so you can adjust them to where ya like it ) When doing my crs+tl'd David walked me through it & it did make a difference. Just a thought... Looking forward to end results & everything looks great
I already have the BH5 cut for it..
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Yes, but the 2B has a passive radiator designed for the larger volume cabinet.Much to do about nothing. Considering that the 2B's use the exact same crossover and have a much larger internal volume there is no issue here.
Consider the Monitor 10 versus the CRS+. They both use a 10" passive and basically the same tweeters and MWs but the M10 passive is a different model number. I think the reason for that is to compensate for the larger internal volume. I'm not being argumentative. I'm just throwing this out for the sake of discussion.
- SDA 2BTL · Sonicaps · Mills resistors · RDO-198s · New gaskets · H-nuts · Erse inductors · BH5 · Dynamat
- Crossover upgrades by westmassguy
- Marantz 1504 AVR (front speaker pre-outs to Adcom 555)
- Adcom GFA-555 amp · Upgrades & speaker protection added by OldmanSRS
- Pioneer DV-610AV DVD/CD player
- SDA CRS+ · Hidden away in the closet
- SDA 2BTL · Sonicaps · Mills resistors · RDO-198s · New gaskets · H-nuts · Erse inductors · BH5 · Dynamat
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Look gorgeous LarryHome Theater/2 Channel:
Front: SDA-2ATL forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/143984/my-2as-finally-finished-almost/p1
Center: Custom Built forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/150760/my-center-channel-project/p1
Surrounds & Rears: Custom Built forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/151647/my-surround-project/p1
Sonicaps, Mills, RDO-194s-198s, Dynamat, Hurricane Nuts, Blackhole5
Pioneer Elite VSX-72TXV, Carver PM-600, SVS PB2-Plus Subwoofer
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Wow! even Chuck Norris approves.
2 ch- Polk CRS+ * Vincent SA-31MK Preamp * Vincent Sp-331 Amp * Marantz SA8005 SACD * Project Xperience Classic TT * Sumiko Blue Point #2 MC cartridge
HT - Polk 703's * NAD T-758 * Adcom 5503 * Oppo 103 * Samsung 60" series 8 LCD -
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Looks great Larry. What kind of through bolts are you using to secure the air core inductor?Home Theater/2 Channel:
Front: SDA-2ATL forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/143984/my-2as-finally-finished-almost/p1
Center: Custom Built forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/150760/my-center-channel-project/p1
Surrounds & Rears: Custom Built forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/151647/my-surround-project/p1
Sonicaps, Mills, RDO-194s-198s, Dynamat, Hurricane Nuts, Blackhole5
Pioneer Elite VSX-72TXV, Carver PM-600, SVS PB2-Plus Subwoofer
dhsspeakerservice.com/ -
westmassguy wrote: »Looks great Larry. What kind of through bolts are you using to secure the air core inductor?
Stainless, that's all Home Depot or Ace Hardware had, I might get some aluminum ones from McMaster Carr..
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Stainless is fineHome Theater/2 Channel:
Front: SDA-2ATL forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/143984/my-2as-finally-finished-almost/p1
Center: Custom Built forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/150760/my-center-channel-project/p1
Surrounds & Rears: Custom Built forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/151647/my-surround-project/p1
Sonicaps, Mills, RDO-194s-198s, Dynamat, Hurricane Nuts, Blackhole5
Pioneer Elite VSX-72TXV, Carver PM-600, SVS PB2-Plus Subwoofer
dhsspeakerservice.com/ -
Stands, and crossovers are done, now to work on the cabinets..
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Larry is hereby declared the BMF of fabrication/modification speaker tweaking over the top designing.
It is written. All shall heed his word.
BMF... Think Pulp Fiction wallet scene.
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In a word " friggin' awesome"
OK, two words.
Because I am The Pumpkinking
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Magnificent!!"Sometimes you have to look to the past to understand where you are going in the future"Anger is just anger. It isn’t good. It isn’t bad. It just is. What you do with it is what matters.
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Ha, thanks guys!!!
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The addition of the BH5 pads will offset the original crossover cab volume change. Very nice work Larry!HT Optoma HD25 LV on 80" DIY Screen, Anthem MRX 300 Receiver, Pioneer Elite BDP 51FD Polk CS350LS, Polk SDA1C, Polk FX300, Polk RT55, Dual EBS Adire Shiva 320watt tuned to 17hz, ICs-DIY Twisted Prs, Speaker-Raymond Cable
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I would love to here those puppies when they a done deal freakin awesome. Hats off to you.Yamaha RXA1030, Yamaha CD-S2100, Yamaha AS-2200, Bluesound node 2i
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Polk CS350 LS x2
Kimber 8TC
Sony 55" Bravia
Wish list SVS sub -
Okay,
I am at a standstill here, I have everything done, but I would like to have the cabinets redone on the outside (veneer or something of that sort, PSA?) before I put these back together, and I can't seem to find a place in town to do it..
I'm not afraid to learn how to do it especially the four sides but the face concerns me more than anything..
Maybe just some black spray paint? If a person could find some.. LOL!!! -
Are you asking about the wood trim around the bezel or about the bezel itself?Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
President of Club Polk -
Yes, the bezel its self..
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Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
President of Club Polk -
Parts Express carries several styles of Black PSA Backed Vinyl, and Tolex, which would need an adhesive to apply.
http://www.parts-express.com/cat/cabinet-covering/310?N=19864+4294967118&Ne=10166&No=0&Nrpp=16&Nrs=collection()/record[endeca:matches(.,"P_PortalID","1")+and+endeca:matches(.,"P_Searchable","1")]&PortalID=1Home Theater/2 Channel:
Front: SDA-2ATL forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/143984/my-2as-finally-finished-almost/p1
Center: Custom Built forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/150760/my-center-channel-project/p1
Surrounds & Rears: Custom Built forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/151647/my-surround-project/p1
Sonicaps, Mills, RDO-194s-198s, Dynamat, Hurricane Nuts, Blackhole5
Pioneer Elite VSX-72TXV, Carver PM-600, SVS PB2-Plus Subwoofer
dhsspeakerservice.com/ -
Larry you cease to amaze nice job.Home Theater
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2 Channel
Adcom 555II Vincent SA-T1 Marantz SA 15S2 Denon DR-M11 Clearaudio Bluemotion SDA 2.3tl's (Z) edition MIT Terminator II Speaker Cables & IC's Adcom 545II Adcom Gtp-450 Marantz CD5004 Technics M245X SDA 2B's, SDA CRS+
Stuff for the Head
JD LABS C5 Headphone Amplifier, Sennheiser HD 598, Polk Audio Buckle, Polk Audio Hinge, Velodyne vPulse, Bose IE2, Sennheiser CX 200 Street II, Sennheiser MX 365
Shower & Off the beaten path Rigs
Polk Audio Boom Swimmer, Polk Audio Urchin -
Outstanding work Larry!!!
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Thanks Guys!!!
Jesse was kind enough to help me find a place to take my cabinets for a quote to get them redone in a veneer, I take them in Saturday, and they are close to my house..
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Can't wait to see the finished product
Yamaha RXA1030, Yamaha CD-S2100, Yamaha AS-2200, Bluesound node 2i
Polk SDA2btl highly modded
Polk SDA 1C modded
Polk CS350 LS x2
Kimber 8TC
Sony 55" Bravia
Wish list SVS sub
