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  • Nightfall
    Nightfall Posts: 10,084
    Your Sony CDP has a DAC. By using the red and white "line outs" you are using the DAC built into the Sony. If you ran the digital optical out from the Sony to the "opt" connection in the digital inputs section of the Parasound you would be using the P5's DAC.
    afterburnt wrote: »
    They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.

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  • txcoastal1
    txcoastal1 Posts: 13,499
    ^^^^ correct try it both ways and see what you like
    2-channel: Modwright KWI-200 Integrated, Dynaudio C1-II Signatures
    Desktop rig: LSi7, Polk 110sub, Dayens Ampino amp, W4S DAC/pre, Sonos, JRiver
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  • gp4jesus
    gp4jesus Posts: 2,016
    Nightfall wrote: »
    Hook up the EQ between the preamp and the amplifier.
    So:
    P5 preouts > EQ in
    EQ out > amplifier
    this will work
    Nightfall wrote: »
    Try without for a while too.
    try this first - easiest!
    Nightfall wrote: »
    The only other way to do it would be to EQ a single source, so between your TT and the P5.
    NOOOOOO!!! Do not waste your time on this unless you have an outboard TT specific preamp that "outputs" line level signal to a standard LR in on any preamp.

    That EQ is designed for line level signal levels* & impedences. Phono Cartridges (PC) be they high output "anything**" or low output MC*** don't have the drive* the EQ expects.

    Further PC either rely upon very specific input capacitance** down to the picofared and a 47K ohm load or a much lower input impedence*** anywhere from 10 to maybe 200**** ohms. Ignore these parameters & you'll think your pre's phono section is garbage.
    **** I'm guessing on this range, varies by manufacturer. Mine liked 100 +- 20. Usually a narrow range or sweet spot but hit it, and you'll rather listen to your vinyl than eat, sleep, or go to the potty!

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  • Realistic
    Realistic Posts: 355
    Thanks a lot guys I will try it both ways after work.
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  • Realistic
    Realistic Posts: 355
    I looked last night for the bit rate and all I found said that it has digital to digital capability and would sound better ran this way. Thanks again guys I am testing it out as I type. All of you have been a great help, the fun is just starting for me in this hobby I am glad I found this place. Bob.
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  • Realistic
    Realistic Posts: 355
    I forgot to tell you guys one cool thing I have noticed so far, no more HISS in my tweeters. I am so happy... Ok I will stop being a pain in the ****, I am excited is all. Sorry.
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  • txcoastal1
    txcoastal1 Posts: 13,499
    Hey good news is good news...no Hiss is great news
    2-channel: Modwright KWI-200 Integrated, Dynaudio C1-II Signatures
    Desktop rig: LSi7, Polk 110sub, Dayens Ampino amp, W4S DAC/pre, Sonos, JRiver
    Gear on standby: Melody 101 tube pre, Unison Research Simply Italy Integrated
    Gone to new homes: (Matt Polk's)Threshold Stasis SA12e monoblocks, Pass XA30.5 amp, Usher MD2 speakers, Dynaudio C4 platinum speakers, Modwright LS100 (voltz), Simaudio 780D DAC

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  • Nightfall
    Nightfall Posts: 10,084
    Realistic wrote: »
    I forgot to tell you guys one cool thing I have noticed so far, no more HISS in my tweeters. I am so happy... Ok I will stop being a pain in the ****, I am excited is all. Sorry.

    Don't get any tube gear.
    afterburnt wrote: »
    They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.

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  • Realistic
    Realistic Posts: 355
    I don't think tube gear is in my future, that hiss drove me nuts.
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  • afterburnt
    afterburnt Posts: 7,892
    Pirate walks into a bar with a steering wheel in his pants and says:

    Argh, it's drivin me nuts!
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  • Realistic
    Realistic Posts: 355
    Ok I have another question, the brightness will this calm down? I disconnected the cable from the sda2s and it sounds much better as far as the brightness goes but I lose the sound coming out of the walls effect which I really like it wraps around your head. What happens to the speakers when I do this, what stops working to mellow them out? I would like this mellower sound but with the sda effect.
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  • Realistic
    Realistic Posts: 355
    How did captain hook die? JOCK ITCH.... lol. Be honest some of you laughed.
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  • afterburnt
    afterburnt Posts: 7,892
    THAT'S NOT FUNNY! I FEAR THAT I WONT GET MY P5 ON TIME! Sorry about that... I gave my love a cherry that had no stone...
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  • Nightfall
    Nightfall Posts: 10,084
    Which tweeters do your SDA's have?

    Brightness should calm down a bit with burn in.
    afterburnt wrote: »
    They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.

    Village Idiot of Club Polk
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  • Realistic
    Realistic Posts: 355
    Afterburnt I feel your pain man. Nighfall I was just reading your speaker post, some guys will do anything for a excuse to buy power tools lol. I will pull one and get back to you.
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  • Nightfall
    Nightfall Posts: 10,084
    Also which SDA 2's do you have? Side by side tweeters or single tweeter?
    afterburnt wrote: »
    They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.

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  • Realistic
    Realistic Posts: 355
    SL-2000 made in 1985, that's what it shows on magnet.
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  • Nightfall
    Nightfall Posts: 10,084
    edited February 2016
    That's part of your problem. The SL2000's are on the bright side. I went from Peerless to SL2000's and it was a little disappointing. The soundstage of the SDA's "sound coming out of the walls" as you call it, made it worth it though.

    We both need to upgrade to the RDO-194's, they can be bought from Polk for $48 a piece shipped if you mention you're a member of Club Polk.
    afterburnt wrote: »
    They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.

    Village Idiot of Club Polk
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  • Nightfall
    Nightfall Posts: 10,084
    Also, if your SDA's have the side by side tweeters, try disconnecting the SDA tweeter in each speaker, cover the loose fast on with electric tape or something, and put the tweeter back in.
    afterburnt wrote: »
    They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.

    Village Idiot of Club Polk
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  • Realistic
    Realistic Posts: 355
    Yes they are the side by side tweeters, I really love the sda sound. I cant replace the tweeters ant time soon I have a few other audio related items ahead of them. I will do what you suggested with the tweeters and keep you posted.
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  • Nightfall
    Nightfall Posts: 10,084
    edited February 2016
    You only need to replace the two stereo tweeters with RDO's, so $100.

    @westmassguy the SDA tweeters are the inside ones?
    afterburnt wrote: »
    They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.

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  • Realistic
    Realistic Posts: 355
    The place I got the 2s from had a pair if ones that look like the ones in your speaker thread would they be a better choice over the 2s that I have? They also had a cool looking pair of polks not really sure what they were, the single tweeter sat on top of the cabinet and had a cover over it, would these be better than what I have? Thanks for the info on the brightness calming down after burn in, I have around 17 hrs on her now.
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  • Nightfall
    Nightfall Posts: 10,084
    edited February 2016
    The tweeter on top model you're talking about are RTA-12's. I like the SDA's better but the RTA-12's are awesome speakers too. You wouldn't get nearly as much "sound coming from the walls" with them though. To some people, though, that is distracting and they'd rather have non SDA's. You are not one of those people.

    The single tweeter SDA 2's are better, yes. How much do they want for them? Would they take your current speakers in partial trade?
    afterburnt wrote: »
    They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.

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  • Realistic
    Realistic Posts: 355
    Nightfall the store that I got the sda 2s from had a pair of sda 1s would they be better than what I have? They will take the sda 2s in on trade.
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  • Nightfall
    Nightfall Posts: 10,084
    Not familiar with the 1's, there are probably some comparisons if you search the forum though. Most would take a pair of 2B's and upgrade them to TL's over a pair of 1's though. Keep your eye out for SDA 2A or 2B's.
    afterburnt wrote: »
    They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.

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  • Realistic
    Realistic Posts: 355
    Ok, so the next step up in speakers is 2a or 2b. Thanks a lot for all the help and guidance. Going to relax and listen to some kinks kronikles and enjoy the new stuff. Thanks again.
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  • txcoastal1
    txcoastal1 Posts: 13,499
    2B
    2-channel: Modwright KWI-200 Integrated, Dynaudio C1-II Signatures
    Desktop rig: LSi7, Polk 110sub, Dayens Ampino amp, W4S DAC/pre, Sonos, JRiver
    Gear on standby: Melody 101 tube pre, Unison Research Simply Italy Integrated
    Gone to new homes: (Matt Polk's)Threshold Stasis SA12e monoblocks, Pass XA30.5 amp, Usher MD2 speakers, Dynaudio C4 platinum speakers, Modwright LS100 (voltz), Simaudio 780D DAC

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  • Realistic
    Realistic Posts: 355
    Ok 2b it is but these speakers are very hard to find around here, especially in driving distance and the shipping is way to high.
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  • motorhead43026
    motorhead43026 Posts: 3,998
    The new tweeters are the best bang for a $100 bucks you will ever spend on your system.
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  • Realistic
    Realistic Posts: 355
    OK I will get them as soon as I am caught up. From the sound of things I will notice a difference installing them. Thanks.
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