I didn’t actually buy the Jane Fonda or Bill Cosby titles. I DID, however score this one on Laserdisc database dot com. New and sealed.
I have the Dolby Surround version as well as the Dolby Digital version. Methinks a comparo is in order....................
Just had one of my coworkers over doing some updates on his computer and decided to do the three way comparo while waiting for the updates to complete. My coworker is definitely NOT an audiophile, but he has heard things on my system in the past which surprised him. We played the same scene from all three Die Hard 2 movies starting with the Dolby surround, then the Dolby Digital (the THX disc) and then finally the DTS. We heard a difference right away between the first and second in the favor of the Dolby Digital. However the picture was the worst for some reason.
The DTS won the day though!
Everything seemed louder and clearer with the Dolby Digital compared to the Dolby Surround, but everything was much clearer (especially dialog) on the DTS.
Back in 1999 when I used to work at the now defunct High Tech Service and exchange here in DC in DuPont Circle on P St NW (which later became Sound Images by High Tech) we used to do Dolby AC-3 (as Dolby Digital was called back then) versus DTS Laserdisc comparisons on the same movies if they were available in both formats. Even people who said they had hearing problems heard the difference. The DTS would always sound louder even though it wasn't. I later realized it was because there is a LOT MORE information there.
On Laserdiscs the Dolby AC-3 soundtrack has 5.1 channels running at 384 Kilobits per second. The same 5.1 channels on a DTS disc are running at 1.5 Megabits per second. The same bit rate as the two channel PCM digital soundtrack that is encoded with Dolby Surround. The DTS soundtrack replaces the PCM track. which is why you must have a DTS decoder to play those discs or you're forced to play the analog soundtrack. The Dolby AC-3 encoding takes the place of one of the Analog channels and is modulated onto the FM carrier that they use for the Analog soundtrack. So if you don't have an AC-3 RF demodulator to be able to play back the 5.1 channel track, you still have the PCM Dolby Surround track to play back.
This brings back a lot of fond memories when this stuff used to be FUN
Fire it up!!
Methinks it's time to fire up the DVL-91
Happy "Morial Day" Weekend to you as well @SIHAB
Anyone else gonna fire up their Laserdisc players over the holiday weekend?
Okay now I’ve gone and done it. I went and watched Star Wars Episode I and then decided to go ahead and watch the next two Episodes on DVD (they came out after they had stopped making Laserdiscs) That’s when I realized this series has been around SO LONG that I have the movies on four different formats. From Laserdisc to DVD to Blu-ray to 4K Blu-ray.
Here it is finally
I've been saying for years there were three competing Videodisc formats, but I could not for the life of me recall the third one.
Laservision
CED (Capacitance Electronic Disc)
VHD (no this is not a typo as it stands for Video High Density)
Both of the other formats besides Laservision were discs inside jackets which were read by needles, but in different ways.
ONLY a Laser nerd 🤓/pack rat would care about such things!
This is a twenty year old bucket list goal finally achieved. I wanted to have both the Dolby AC-3 (remember when they called Dolby Digital that??) and the DTS versions of all three of these movies.
Goal achieved.
My CLD-99 is still the best-sounding CD transport I have...when I play CD's. The truth is now I've ripped everything to FLAC files that I play via USB HD through my UHD player. I still watch a LaserDisc once-in-awhile (I have an external AC-3 RF demod).
Yamaha RX-A2050 AVR (5.0.2)
(4) Polk Monitor 10B's w/SoniCaps, Mills, and RDO-194 tweets (R/L F/R)
(2) Polk Monitor 4's w/peerless tweets (Top Middle)
Polk CS300 center channel
Analog: B&O TX2 Turntable, Nakamichi Cassette Deck 1
Digital: Pioneer CLD-99 Elite LD, Panasonic DMP-UB900 UHD Blu-Ray
LG 65EF9500 4K OLED
Okay I got a little carried away on this album!
It’s interesting how both the Oppo and the Pioneer will play all three, but in different ways.
The CDVideo-The audio only tracks will play on any player that plays CD’s. The video portion will only play on Laserdisc players as it is analog video and digital audio. Laserdisc players will play the music video first and then the audio tracks.
The DVD-A will play Dolby Digital or DTS on the Pioneer as it is a Laserdisc/DVD video combi player. The HiRez MLP tracks will only play on a DVD-A capable player like the Oppo.
The MQA CD will play in any CD player. However the HiRez MQA will only be decoded by an MQA decoder which the Oppo 205 has.
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CED Videodisc
Does this come with quaaludes?
I didn’t actually buy the Jane Fonda or Bill Cosby titles. I DID, however score this one on Laserdisc database dot com. New and sealed.
I have the Dolby Surround version as well as the Dolby Digital version. Methinks a comparo is in order....................
The DTS won the day though!
Everything seemed louder and clearer with the Dolby Digital compared to the Dolby Surround, but everything was much clearer (especially dialog) on the DTS.
Back in 1999 when I used to work at the now defunct High Tech Service and exchange here in DC in DuPont Circle on P St NW (which later became Sound Images by High Tech) we used to do Dolby AC-3 (as Dolby Digital was called back then) versus DTS Laserdisc comparisons on the same movies if they were available in both formats. Even people who said they had hearing problems heard the difference. The DTS would always sound louder even though it wasn't. I later realized it was because there is a LOT MORE information there.
On Laserdiscs the Dolby AC-3 soundtrack has 5.1 channels running at 384 Kilobits per second. The same 5.1 channels on a DTS disc are running at 1.5 Megabits per second. The same bit rate as the two channel PCM digital soundtrack that is encoded with Dolby Surround. The DTS soundtrack replaces the PCM track. which is why you must have a DTS decoder to play those discs or you're forced to play the analog soundtrack. The Dolby AC-3 encoding takes the place of one of the Analog channels and is modulated onto the FM carrier that they use for the Analog soundtrack. So if you don't have an AC-3 RF demodulator to be able to play back the 5.1 channel track, you still have the PCM Dolby Surround track to play back.
This brings back a lot of fond memories when this stuff used to be FUN
https://detroit.craigslist.org/okl/ele/d/farmington-pioneer-video-disc-player-pr/6849937094.html
Office: PC, EAR Acute CD Player, EAR 834L Pre, Northstar Designs Intenso DAC, PASS ACA Monoblocks, Denon UDR-F10 Cassette, Acoustic Technologies Classic FR Speakers, SVS SB12 Plus sub, MIT AVt2 speaker cables, IFI Purifier2, AQ Cinnamon USB cable, Groneberg Quatro Reference IC's
Spare Room: Antique Sound Labs Wave AV-8 Monoblocks, Tisbury Mini Passive Pre, Tjoeb 99 tube CD player (modified Marantz CD-38), Analysis Plus Oval 9's, Zu Jumpers, AudioEngine B1 Streamer, Klipsch RB-61 v2, SVS PB1000 sub, Blue Jeans RCA IC's, Shunyata Hydra 8 Power Conditioner
Living Room: Peachtree Nova Integrated, Cambridge CXN v2 Streamer, Rotel RCD-1072 CD player, Furman 15PFi Power Conditioner, Polk RT265 In Wall Speakers, Polk DSW Pro 660wi sub
Garage: Cambridge Audio 640A Integrated Amp, Project Box-E BT Streamer, Polk Tsi200 Bookies, Douglas Speaker Cables, Shunyata Power Conditioner
I don’t think those had AC3 (DD) capability though.
Office-Infinity Kappa 600, Kappa Center, in ceiling Polk RC80i, Marantz 5012, OPPO 203, Pioneer Elite PDF-59 CD, PSA Stellar 300, Sony 510C 48"
Master BR- LSi7, Signature S15 Dolby Height, LSI700 in ceiling, SVS-SB3000, Marantz 5012, Emotiva XPA-5 G2, OPPO 203, Pioneer DVL-919 Laser Disc, Sony 55" 800B
Patio- SDI Atrium8 x3, Emotiva A-100 amps x3
A friend just gave this to me on DVD 📀 and then a few days later I find it on Laserdisc here👇🏿
Maybe time to fire up the DVL-90 tonight...
Methinks it's time to fire up the DVL-91
Happy "Morial Day" Weekend to you as well @SIHAB
Anyone else gonna fire up their Laserdisc players over the holiday weekend?
thats $5 too much...
Carver M 1.0 MK2 Opt 2
Carver CT Seven Preamp
Bluesound Node 2i
Abacus Aikido Custom Tube Preamp
Okay now I’ve gone and done it. I went and watched Star Wars Episode I and then decided to go ahead and watch the next two Episodes on DVD (they came out after they had stopped making Laserdiscs) That’s when I realized this series has been around SO LONG that I have the movies on four different formats. From Laserdisc to DVD to Blu-ray to 4K Blu-ray.
Survey: Which boxed set is better?
Here it is finally
I've been saying for years there were three competing Videodisc formats, but I could not for the life of me recall the third one.
Laservision
CED (Capacitance Electronic Disc)
VHD (no this is not a typo as it stands for Video High Density)
Both of the other formats besides Laservision were discs inside jackets which were read by needles, but in different ways.
ONLY a Laser nerd 🤓/pack rat would care about such things!
This is a twenty year old bucket list goal finally achieved. I wanted to have both the Dolby AC-3 (remember when they called Dolby Digital that??) and the DTS versions of all three of these movies.
Goal achieved.
(4) Polk Monitor 10B's w/SoniCaps, Mills, and RDO-194 tweets (R/L F/R)
(2) Polk Monitor 4's w/peerless tweets (Top Middle)
Polk CS300 center channel
Analog: B&O TX2 Turntable, Nakamichi Cassette Deck 1
Digital: Pioneer CLD-99 Elite LD, Panasonic DMP-UB900 UHD Blu-Ray
LG 65EF9500 4K OLED
Ya gotta love that Legato Link D/A converter. Pioneer was ahead of their time with that!
Okay I got a little carried away on this album!
It’s interesting how both the Oppo and the Pioneer will play all three, but in different ways.
The CDVideo-The audio only tracks will play on any player that plays CD’s. The video portion will only play on Laserdisc players as it is analog video and digital audio. Laserdisc players will play the music video first and then the audio tracks.
The DVD-A will play Dolby Digital or DTS on the Pioneer as it is a Laserdisc/DVD video combi player. The HiRez MLP tracks will only play on a DVD-A capable player like the Oppo.
The MQA CD will play in any CD player. However the HiRez MQA will only be decoded by an MQA decoder which the Oppo 205 has.