Parasound vs Emotiva
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Emotiva is in a different league, entry level at best. Yes, I have owned one and anything & everything I have had since beat it to death for music.
I guess we have different experiences.Oh, Listen here mister. We got no way of understandin' this world. But we got as much sense of this bird flyin in the sky. Now there is a lot that bird don't know, but it don't change the fact that the world is happening to him all the same. What I am tryin to say is, is that the course of your life, well its changing, and you don't even see it- Forest Bondurant -
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Some mornings my my prostate feels right for an unobstructed bladder evacuation. Most mornings it just doesn't seem to work.
Audio. The same... Depends on me.
I feel like I have to take a Capri now.
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jeremymarcinko wrote: »
Or better hearing...
I thought the amp didn't matter until I tried one. Then I just built my own. The amp makes as much difference as everything else in the setup does. Every piece matters.
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nooshinjohn wrote: »jeremymarcinko wrote: »
Or better hearing...
I thought the amp didn't matter until I tried one. Then I just built my own. The amp makes as much difference as everything else in the setup does. Every piece matters.
Spot on dude.Pio Elete Pro 520
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nooshinjohn wrote: »jeremymarcinko wrote: »
Or better hearing...
I thought the amp didn't matter until I tried one. Then I just built my own. The amp makes as much difference as everything else in the setup does. Every piece matters.
So you're saying that you can build a better amp than the engineers at emotiva, or ATI. Come on man...you all have to a least acknowledge that a 73lb mono's with a 60w class A designed in TN is in the same class as any other $2000 amp.
I know your not that naive.Oh, Listen here mister. We got no way of understandin' this world. But we got as much sense of this bird flyin in the sky. Now there is a lot that bird don't know, but it don't change the fact that the world is happening to him all the same. What I am tryin to say is, is that the course of your life, well its changing, and you don't even see it- Forest Bondurant -
jeremymarcinko wrote: »nooshinjohn wrote: »jeremymarcinko wrote: »
Or better hearing...
I thought the amp didn't matter until I tried one. Then I just built my own. The amp makes as much difference as everything else in the setup does. Every piece matters.
So you're saying that you can build a better amp than the engineers at emotiva, or ATI. Come on man...you all have to a least acknowledge that a 73lb mono's with a 60w class A designed in TN is in the same class as any other $2000 amp.
I know your not that naive.
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txcoastal1 wrote: »jeremymarcinko wrote: »nooshinjohn wrote: »jeremymarcinko wrote: »
Or better hearing...
I thought the amp didn't matter until I tried one. Then I just built my own. The amp makes as much difference as everything else in the setup does. Every piece matters.
So you're saying that you can build a better amp than the engineers at emotiva, or ATI. Come on man...you all have to a least acknowledge that a 73lb mono's with a 60w class A designed in TN is in the same class as any other $2000 amp.
I know your not that naive.
WOW you're going to be in for a big surprise....John show him, this is gonna be funny
Yes it will be super funny, go John.Pio Elete Pro 520
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OPPO BDP-83 SE
SDA SRS 1.2TL Sonicaps and Mills
Ctr CS1000p
Sur - FX1000 x 4
SUB - SVS PB2-Plus
Workkout room:
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Onkyo TX-DS898
GFA 555
Yamaha DVD-S1800BL/SACD
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John..... Show him what you have done with an amp.
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I'm only having fun here fellas. I never said amps don't matter, if I thought that I would be using an rxv371 still. But I am saying Emotiva is the best for the money, new with a warranty. I firmly believe I couldn't have gotten better for $2000 new with warrenty.Oh, Listen here mister. We got no way of understandin' this world. But we got as much sense of this bird flyin in the sky. Now there is a lot that bird don't know, but it don't change the fact that the world is happening to him all the same. What I am tryin to say is, is that the course of your life, well its changing, and you don't even see it- Forest Bondurant
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Is Emotiva still in business? I haven't seen any ads for a while, and newbies aren't showing up saying they now have a high-end stereo as good as any other stereo.Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
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Is Emotiva still in business? I haven't seen any ads for a while, and newbies aren't showing up saying they now have a high-end stereo as good as any other stereo.
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[quoteThanks for sharing your insight between the two!
As i contemplate between Rotel, Parasound and Emotiva for my next audio outlay in the coming months, this certainly helps!
Having owned all three, here is what I experienced with my Magnepans: Emotiva XPA-5 has lots of power, is the brightest of the three and has a more upfront sound stage than the other two. Parasound HCA-1205A is warm, has a deeper sound stage than the Emotiva but less than the Rotel. Instruments and voice sound more realistic than the Emotiva. Rotel RMB-1565 has a similar deep sound stage as the Parasound. Brightness/warmth is between the Emotiva and Parasound and is very neutral. Instruments and voice sound slightly more realistic than the Parasound.
Disclosure: I liked the Parasound and owned it for over ten years as its original owner. I did have one channel go out but was repaired under warranty. Currently using the Rotel and like it as well. Especially since it is a Class D amp and doesn't generate near the amount of heat my Parasound (most) nor the Emotiva did since I use an enclosed cabinet.
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Thanks for taking the time to share your experience with them.
As subjective as this hobby can be , this is still very useful info.
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Its ok I used to drink the Emotiva cool-aid.Polk SDA 1C Upgraded, Eastern Electric Minimax Supreme DAC, Parasound HCA 1200ii, Belles 21a Preamp, Rotel RSX-1056, Matricom G Box Q, Blue Jean & Signal Cable interconnects, Sonographe SG-3 TT, Panamax M4300-PM
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ken brydson wrote: »They're making 8 tracks now. Didn't you hear?
Seriously!?!
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Yes... I am saying that. 400 plus watts of Carver designed tube power smokes anything Emotiva has to offer. That is why Big Dan bought the company Bob built when they were thinking about doing high end tube stuff. Thankfully the deal went south...txcoastal1 wrote: »jeremymarcinko wrote: »nooshinjohn wrote: »jeremymarcinko wrote: »
Or better hearing...
I thought the amp didn't matter until I tried one. Then I just built my own. The amp makes as much difference as everything else in the setup does. Every piece matters.
So you're saying that you can build a better amp than the engineers at emotiva, or ATI. Come on man...you all have to a least acknowledge that a 73lb mono's with a 60w class A designed in TN is in the same class as any other $2000 amp.
I know your not that naive.
WOW you're going to be in for a big surprise....John show him, this is gonna be funny
Those that have heard them consider them to be among the best they have ever heard.
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No it's okay...I would upset too if I couldn't sell my overpriced used gear at top dollar cause some company decided to be realistic. WAAAAAAAOh, Listen here mister. We got no way of understandin' this world. But we got as much sense of this bird flyin in the sky. Now there is a lot that bird don't know, but it don't change the fact that the world is happening to him all the same. What I am tryin to say is, is that the course of your life, well its changing, and you don't even see it- Forest Bondurant
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So beautiful
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nooshinjohn wrote: »
Yes... I am saying that.txcoastal1 wrote: »jeremymarcinko wrote: »nooshinjohn wrote: »jeremymarcinko wrote: »
Or better hearing...
I thought the amp didn't matter until I tried one. Then I just built my own. The amp makes as much difference as everything else in the setup does. Every piece matters.
So you're saying that you can build a better amp than the engineers at emotiva, or ATI. Come on man...you all have to a least acknowledge that a 73lb mono's with a 60w class A designed in TN is in the same class as any other $2000 amp.
I know your not that naive.
WOW you're going to be in for a big surprise....John show him, this is gonna be funny
Those that have heard them consider them to be among the best they have ever heard.
Those are pretty impressive, but my point still stands.Oh, Listen here mister. We got no way of understandin' this world. But we got as much sense of this bird flyin in the sky. Now there is a lot that bird don't know, but it don't change the fact that the world is happening to him all the same. What I am tryin to say is, is that the course of your life, well its changing, and you don't even see it- Forest Bondurant -
Dan couldn't do anything close. That's why he tried to buy Bob out. Your point is about as valid as the claim that God Himself could not sink the Titanic.jeremymarcinko wrote: »nooshinjohn wrote: »
Yes... I am saying that.txcoastal1 wrote: »jeremymarcinko wrote: »nooshinjohn wrote: »jeremymarcinko wrote: »
Or better hearing...
I thought the amp didn't matter until I tried one. Then I just built my own. The amp makes as much difference as everything else in the setup does. Every piece matters.
So you're saying that you can build a better amp than the engineers at emotiva, or ATI. Come on man...you all have to a least acknowledge that a 73lb mono's with a 60w class A designed in TN is in the same class as any other $2000 amp.
I know your not that naive.
WOW you're going to be in for a big surprise....John show him, this is gonna be funny
Those that have heard them consider them to be among the best they have ever heard.
Those are pretty impressive, but my point still stands.
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“When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson -
Show me the 600w mono you built with a 60w class A, with balanced inputs, circuit protection, and 30lb toroidal tranny. Come on tube amps been diy projects for decades.Oh, Listen here mister. We got no way of understandin' this world. But we got as much sense of this bird flyin in the sky. Now there is a lot that bird don't know, but it don't change the fact that the world is happening to him all the same. What I am tryin to say is, is that the course of your life, well its changing, and you don't even see it- Forest Bondurant
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Get me the schematic and I will build a better one. It would not be that hard to do.The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD
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nooshinjohn wrote: »Get me the schematic and I will build a better one. It would not be that hard to do.
Improving on someone else's design isn't doing anything. The engineering team can always do better, but they have a cost margin to consider. My point stands. You claim to know more than a team of engineers, at two respectable companies, but yet you need their drawings.
I respect your accomplishments, don't get me wrong, but your claim is outrageous.Oh, Listen here mister. We got no way of understandin' this world. But we got as much sense of this bird flyin in the sky. Now there is a lot that bird don't know, but it don't change the fact that the world is happening to him all the same. What I am tryin to say is, is that the course of your life, well its changing, and you don't even see it- Forest Bondurant -
Why reinvent the wheel? You guys all seem to be under the delusion that all amps sound the same anyway.The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD
“When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson -
Straw man diversion. If one can no longer support their argument, one attempts to minimize the credibility of the opponent.
It's okayOh, Listen here mister. We got no way of understandin' this world. But we got as much sense of this bird flyin in the sky. Now there is a lot that bird don't know, but it don't change the fact that the world is happening to him all the same. What I am tryin to say is, is that the course of your life, well its changing, and you don't even see it- Forest Bondurant -
Can you feel the Parasound Love! With all the good press Parasound get around here, they should give us all a nice discount... or at least free T-Shirts.Stan
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jeremymarcinko wrote: »nooshinjohn wrote: »jeremymarcinko wrote: »
Or better hearing...
I thought the amp didn't matter until I tried one. Then I just built my own. The amp makes as much difference as everything else in the setup does. Every piece matters.
So you're saying that you can build a better amp than the engineers at emotiva, or ATI. Come on man...you all have to a least acknowledge that a 73lb mono's with a 60w class A designed in TN is in the same class as any other $2000 amp.
I know your not that naive.
1st, you asked if John could build a better amp, he's built one and he answered
2nd, You answered your the question to your own statementjeremymarcinko wrote: »nooshinjohn wrote: »Get me the schematic and I will build a better one. It would not be that hard to do.
but they have a cost margin to consider.2-channel: Modwright KWI-200 Integrated, Dynaudio C1-II Signatures
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Who wants to set the point spread between John and Jerry. $50 in here, double down on John.
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What is the issue here? Wasn't it that the Parasound sounds better than the Emotiva? Then it seemed to have morphed into an old Emotiva is the best, and anything else is a waste of money thread.
While I have never heard the Emotiva amps, I would have no problem buying one for a starter system. For most people, it is probably more than they will ever need. Of course, there is always something better, and that is where music stops, and the hobby starts.
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Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
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Is that it?
I'm not going to debate semantics or fight to support my previous claims taken out of contextOh, Listen here mister. We got no way of understandin' this world. But we got as much sense of this bird flyin in the sky. Now there is a lot that bird don't know, but it don't change the fact that the world is happening to him all the same. What I am tryin to say is, is that the course of your life, well its changing, and you don't even see it- Forest Bondurant
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