I Think It's Time For A Disney Boycott....

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  • brettw22
    brettw22 Posts: 7,623
    edited July 2003
    Originally posted by wlrandall
    While cleaning himself, he utters "merde", which is French slang for S-H-I-T. Was that unintentional?? Hardly...
    I guess it's just a matter of who's going to be offended at what. For the target audience, do you believe that there's a kid out there that is going to put the correlation between merde and the French language and get what was just said? Do you think that Disney put/left that there so that they could corrupt little children's minds in an attempt to degenerate them to being lil hellions? For that matter, would the average American parent even know that merde was **** in French? I doubt it......but (and I'm talking more about the adults that WOULD know that, or that WANT to find agenda's in what they view) if you're so susceptible to other people's opinions that being aware of them would make you act a certain way, then that shows a little more about the person in question than the company that's putting something out there, be it their agenda, or what the person has interpretted that agenda to be.
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  • faster100
    faster100 Posts: 6,124
    edited July 2003
    Originally posted by Demiurge


    Can I ask you guys a question? What the hell are you continuing this thread for if you don't have a problem with Disney? MOVE ON! You're asking for my reasoning, I've given it, you've either chosen to ignore it or you're having comprehension problems.




    Yes

    Because of you!!! I tried to end my portion and you responded with this
    Originally posted by Demiurge
    Wait, wait, wait....you start an arguement. You get a reply, and then you cut and run? What's that all about? This isnt' a very heated discussion at all.


    Again Brett Good points, Maybe it will sink in???

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  • Demiurge
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    Demiurge Posts: 10,874
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  • brettw22
    brettw22 Posts: 7,623
    edited July 2003
    Oh for Christ's sake Demiurge......I'd almost assume that you and Jstas were brothers or somethin.......

    My point about the **** comment wasn't directed to you. Seeing as it was a completely seperate post, and was quoted to randall who made the comment, I suppose that you could unwad your panties a bit.

    This,
    The movie may be in bad taste to some, but can you really say that there's a movie studio or company out there that hasn't ever released a movie like that?
    and this,
    Please, by all means, which movie studios haven't ever released a movie that could have been perceived to be in bad taste?
    are the same thing. Does it help you see that better if they're in the same post? See, I'm trying to help.....

    Maybe it's a little funny that we're all pissed about the same thing. You're upset because of what you perceive Disney to be pushing, and we're pissed because you're trying to do the same to us.
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  • Ron-P
    Ron-P Posts: 8,520
    edited July 2003
    Having an agenda and sharing it with adults is a lot different than sharing it with children. If you can't see the difference...then...oh well.
    Considering the fact that my agenda will have a much more profound affect on my kids rather than the occasional Disney movie or any other movie, I'm not at all concerned.

    Whatever agenda Disney is pushing, it's small potatoes in the grand scheme of life. The example of us as parents can have a much stronger impact than any movie can.


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  • brettw22
    brettw22 Posts: 7,623
    edited July 2003
    Originally posted by Ron-P
    Whatever agenda Disney is pushing, it's small potatoes in the grand scheme of life. The example of us as parents can have a much stronger impact than any movie can.
    Really Ron?!?!?!?! :D From Demiurge's opinion, you'd think that a persons entire belief system is based on what's forced onto them from things like movies........amazing.
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  • faster100
    faster100 Posts: 6,124
    edited July 2003
    Well it seems he keeps saying, "don't like my post then leave" me brettw and ron are basically the only ones compelled to speak with you demi, about this subject

    you have your idea's, thats great!! But ours are **** because they don't coincide with yours, Correct??

    If you want to run us off your thread, then you won't have anyone to discuss this with as it seems, and you shouldn't state such political posts if you don't want the **** storm that sometimes resides from political views..

    and another thing, CHill OUT!! you have a REAL problem with me it seems and Brett as well... Care to explain???
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  • Demiurge
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  • faster100
    faster100 Posts: 6,124
    edited July 2003
    Now this is turning into a Eff this and that post :rolleyes:

    time to seal this up and send it away, I'm really done this time.. Get real Demi!!!


    If this is gonna turn into a name calling game Demi, Just end it!! WE don't need it here. No one called you out of your name, or said **** this and that to you.. show the same respect if you can muster it :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
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  • Dr. Sound
    Dr. Sound Posts: 14
    edited July 2003
    i must say that demi never should have had to deal with this thread in the way you guys chose to read into what he was saying.

    all he was saying is that this movie is unamerican and that he thinks it should be boycotted. while that's his opinon, i happen to agree with him. if you're a conservative minded person i don't know how you could not see the obvious liberal messages in disney movies that are clearly made for kids. if you're a liberal it's obviously not going to bother you. i can't help but notice that the guys arguing with him happen to be liberals. coincidence? i think not. stop treating him like he doesn't have very valid reasons for his beliefs. at least he's doing a good job of explaining his reasoning.

    sorry for stepping in late here, but i just see him getting ganged up on for no reason and he's having his words twisted around.

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  • faster100
    faster100 Posts: 6,124
    edited July 2003
    Look DR sound, you have no idea what is going on here, Ganging up?? Have you seen his posts.. I think he can hold his own.
    So your assuming we are liberals??? judgeing maybe??

    anywho, The F words and his attitude is uneeded here.... We stated our feelings as well, is this not allowed. he has his ideas we have ours. Sorry but i think his thinking is the minority, not the majority.. be it may, this is the way it is, And he said BOYCOTT disney, that just that movie. and he also took it upon his self to make statments outside of the movie at hand as well as us, stating the agenda's disney has, SO read the WHOLE post first before you make blanket statments..
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  • Ron-P
    Ron-P Posts: 8,520
    edited July 2003
    Hey, you should really read the WHOLE thread. I already alluded to the fact that parents need to take control of what their kids are watching. In case you can't find it, I'll quote myself later for both of you lazy ****.
    I apologize for missing it. But, come on, name calling, I think you can be a bit more mature than that.

    Going back to the very first post that started this thread. How can you decide to boycott Disney based on one guys comments on a movie that isn't even out yet? Have you seen it?


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  • Dr. Sound
    Dr. Sound Posts: 14
    edited July 2003
    Originally posted by faster100
    Look DR sound, you have no idea what is going on here, Ganging up?? Have you seen his posts.. I think he can hold his own.
    So your assuming we are liberals??? judgeing maybe??

    anywho, The F words and his attitude is uneeded here.... We stated our feelings as well, is this not allowed. he has his ideas we have ours. Sorry but i think his thinking is the minority, not the majority.. be it may, this is the way it is, And he said BOYCOTT disney, that just that movie. and he also took it upon his self to make statments outside of the movie at hand as well as us, stating the agenda's disney has, SO read the WHOLE post first before you make blanket statments..


    i read the whole thread before i replied. it's not very fair of you to tell me i don't know whats going on. i understand that you're obviously going to be defensive of my disagreement of your side of the story, but i see clear and concise posts on his behalf. he's given lots of examples and explained himself very well. i think you and others are reading into this far more than it was intended as demi said.

    his thinking is actually in the majority in terms of the american ideals. so i don't really agree with you.

    he did say boycott disney. what's wrong with that? he validated his reasons. you don't agree. and you nag him for not seeing things your way. i think it's obvious he doesn't care what you think. you're the one who can't discredit what he's seeing other than making him out to be some conspiracist.

    he's no more wrong than you are. you just have 2 others ganging up on him. i'd call that sad.drsound-title.gif
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  • VR3
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  • Dr. Sound
    Dr. Sound Posts: 14
    edited July 2003
    hey! i don't understand a thing this person above just said. can someone translate?
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,754
    edited July 2003
    Originally posted by Dr. Sound
    his thinking is actually in the majority in terms of the american ideals.

    AGREED!!!
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,754
    edited July 2003
    Hey, don't pick on MX, he's 14 and hasn't had the pleasure of politics in his life...yet. ;)
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  • shack
    shack Posts: 11,154
    edited July 2003
    Does Disney have an agenda?

    Disney has only one agenda - PROFIT - No more. Individuals within the corporation may have a liberal agenda (and many within the "entertainment" industries tend to have a liberal bias it seems)...but they can only promote that adgenda if it has no negative impact on the bottom line and if they are making money for the stockholders. By the way...the liberals would probably consider most of these stockholders to be conservative ie: Institutional Investors, corporate controled pension funds, wealthy individuals, etc.

    It's true that many corporate executives have bias' that they promote when they run their companies but I always find it humorus when people talk about a public corporation's "Liberal" or "Conservative" agenda. You can have all the opinions that you want as to whether this is true or not...but I have yet to hear of an instance where the majority of the investors of a publicly traded company got together and said "Hey, it's ok that the value of our stock is way down and the dividends are only a fraction of what they were. The company is really doing a great job of promoting that [Conservative/Liberal] agenda. Let's keep these guys!" And that includes companies considered to be very liberal...just ask the stockholders of AOL Time Warner...or very conservative...Walmart anyone? If the profits tank..you can kiss any agenda BS goodbye.

    As far as THE MOVIE that started this discussion...I believe that the military like most institutions is a microcosm of American society, complete with thieves, murderers, perverts, racists, addicts, etc...as well as great people, patriots and heros. The stuff in the movie may very well happen...I don't know. If the logic holds that we should never have a movie that shows a bad segment of a GOOD organization then we would never have a movie about bad cops, bad firemen, bad clergy, bad postmen, etc...etc... If the argument is that the timing is bad because we have soldiers dying on foreign soil...guess what...there is probably not a day that goes by that a US military person doesn't die on foreign soil serving their country.

    It's a movie...watch it or not...you have a choice!

    And yes...IMO Michael Moore is a ****!
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  • VR3
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,782
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    Liberal -

    Not limited to or by established, traditional, orthodox, or authoritarian attitudes, views, or dogmas; free from bigotry.
    Favoring proposals for reform, open to new ideas for progress, and tolerant of the ideas and behavior of others; broad-minded.
    Of, relating to, or characteristic of liberalism.
    Liberal Of, designating, or characteristic of a political party founded on or associated with principles of social and political liberalism, especially in Great Britain, Canada, and the United States.

    Tending to give freely; generous: a liberal benefactor.
    Generous in amount; ample: a liberal serving of potatoes.
    Not strict or literal; loose or approximate: a liberal translation.
    Of, relating to, or based on the traditional arts and sciences of a college or university curriculum: a liberal education.

    Archaic. Permissible or appropriate for a person of free birth; befitting a lady or gentleman.
    Obsolete. Morally unrestrained; licentious.

    n.
    A person with liberal ideas or opinions.
    Liberal A member of a Liberal political party.
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  • Demiurge
    Demiurge Posts: 10,874
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  • tntvt
    tntvt Posts: 121
    edited July 2003
    "if any of your caught Dr. Laura Schlessinger "


    I can't believe people still listen to that IDIOT!:confused:
  • dcarlson
    dcarlson Posts: 1,740
    edited July 2003
    Can someone please tell me what unamerican means?

    I've never heard anyone up here use uncanadian.

    Has liberalism become unamerican? I'm confused.
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  • brettw22
    brettw22 Posts: 7,623
    edited July 2003
    Originally posted by dcarlson
    Has liberalism become unamerican? I'm confused.
    To people like Demiurge, yes, it apparently means the same.....
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited July 2003
    In an attempt to lighten the subject..... how about a world that was without the octopus?!?!

    Can you fathom that? ;)
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  • Demiurge
    Demiurge Posts: 10,874
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited July 2003
    I personally don't like Laura Schlessinger and her self important talk show, nor do I like "The View" with all those yentas talking about how women should do this and women should do that, and men are weird, and men are great....blah blah blah..

    Nor do I agree with Bill O'Reilly and his BS about how he knows everything and has done everything, and how I would like to punch him in the mouth....but I thoroughly enjoy his talk radio.....

    BUT, if it wasn't for thought provoking people like those individuals, and I like that SOB O'Reilly( : - ) ), where would we be????

    I think that more and more people like O'Reilly(****), Dr. Laura(Bizatch), Al Franken(Commie) etc need to be heard and listened to in order for me, I AM JUST POINTING AT ME, to open up and say are you fooking nuts! OR you are right on!

    Welcome to america, get it all out... its the only way things change.
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