I Think It's Time For A Disney Boycott....

245678

Comments

  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,782
    edited July 2003
    WEEEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • Demiurge
    Demiurge Posts: 10,874
    edited July 2003
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • faster100
    faster100 Posts: 6,124
    edited July 2003
    Originally posted by Demiurge
    HELLO


    MCFLY!!?!?!

    We're talking about YOUNG CHILDREN.

    Not adults.

    That's what im talking about, please read my prior post to that one,

    Yeah and young children don't think the way you do, they watch movies to enjoy,
    MY HT RIG:
    Sherwood p-965
    Sherwood sd871 dvd
    Rotel 1075 amp x5
    LSI15 mains
    LsiC center
    LSIfx surround backs
    Lsi7 side surrounds
    SVS pb12/plus2

    2 Channel Rig:

    nad 1020 Pre-amp
    Rotel 1080 stereo amp
    Polk sda 2B
    kenwood grunt Tuner
    realistic lab 450 TT
    Signal cable IC
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • brettw22
    brettw22 Posts: 7,623
    edited July 2003
    Originally posted by Demiurge
    We're talking about YOUNG CHILDREN.
    I'm confused......the movie that you linked to doesn't sound in any way/shape/form to be geared towards children of any age. To make a blanket statement that Disney's out to be
    taking advantage of the freedoms afforded to them by the same people they and their Liberal cohorts constantly disrespect
    is a little to broad of a point in my opinion. Who's really to say how much freedom one is permitted with regard to the First Ammendment. It's a pretty simple solution to say that if ya don't like the premise or the idea of any given movie, don't go see it. What I don't understand is the implication that a company as a whole is a big 'ol evildoer (thanks W) because of a few of their messages that have been perhaps misinterpreted. I'm not implying that the linked movie sounds like a positively spun movie about the military, but I'm certainly not naive enough to think that all those in the military (or anywhere else for that matter) are squeaky clean and not capable of such actions. It's good that they postponed the release due to the timing and potential for those, such as yourself, that would feel the movie to be in bad taste especially considering the real life events.

    Does Disney have an agenda? Of course they do. Disney has one, you have one, and I have one.....EVERYONE has one. Obviously they're not all going to coincide, but is that a bad thing? Just because you don't agree with someone elses message or beliefs, you don't have to boycott everything about them (in this case Disney). Really, it boils down to acceptance. We could even dummy this down (even to Sid's level :lol:;)) and say that any movie that sucks shouldnt' be released. If a studio releases a stupid movie, then let's not watch anything else by them. Of course, let's let the various groups of people that are the all-knowing, holier-than-thou, self-preserving idealists make the decision on the quality of the movies that we should nix. Hell, let's even start an anti-studio group to say that as a company they suck, and they will always suck, that there's nothing good about them, and now probably never will be anything good about them in the future. Blah blah blah... Sound a little extreme?

    As far as the comments about hidden messages in the animated movies......I'm sure they're there, but is the average CHILD going to pick up on something that you as an adult do when made as either a social statement, or adult geared joke? If so, you might want to check your kid into college now. Parents don't necessarily want to go to a movie with their kids and watch 90-120 minutes of mind-numbing 6 year old humor. The animated movies are entertainment (Parents/adults need/want to be entertained too) If you don't think that you'd be entertained by it, then don't go....but don't think that the average kid is going to be so horribly offended by what they probably won't see unless it's pointed out and made a big deal of by you the adult.

    Personally, I think that it's the extremists that are so worried about shelteing everyone from being offended by every little thing are the people to worry about. Heaven forbid people their life where everything's not spoon fed to them (censored and all).
    comment comment comment comment. bitchy.
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • faster100
    faster100 Posts: 6,124
    edited July 2003
    Im not talking about the link you provided, Im setback by the way you think about freakin disney movies, as you said, Mc fly were talking about your children


    Very very well said Brett!!!!! This is how i feel,
    rewind back to a thread where Demi mentioned the schools (im trying to remember word for word) are poisining our kids minds, Yet I don't think Demi has kids, or maybe i'm wrong..

    I'm not trying to start anything, But its like the guy who wanted to get rid of the pledge of the alegiance, because it said one God, Damm ****!!
    MY HT RIG:
    Sherwood p-965
    Sherwood sd871 dvd
    Rotel 1075 amp x5
    LSI15 mains
    LsiC center
    LSIfx surround backs
    Lsi7 side surrounds
    SVS pb12/plus2

    2 Channel Rig:

    nad 1020 Pre-amp
    Rotel 1080 stereo amp
    Polk sda 2B
    kenwood grunt Tuner
    realistic lab 450 TT
    Signal cable IC
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • dcarlson
    dcarlson Posts: 1,740
    edited July 2003
    Sorry to come in here after the fact but....

    Watch the movie or don't. It probably won't be a good protrayal of the army. As a Canadian looking in from the outside. It seems anything liberal gets deemed anti-american. It's a shame. The U.S. is a great country. I've never met an american I didn't like.

    What's so wrong with the Liberal ideal? Didn't half + a few of Americans vote Democrat in the last election? Popular vote was Democrat. Last president Democrat.

    Up here in Canada, we've had a Liberal government for so long I don't even remember how long. I think 12-13 years.

    I don't like to get into these political debates because it tends to polarize people.

    One other thing, Dem, have you read Radiohead's lyrics on the new album? Sorry to say, it's some pretty liberal stuff. Is it time for a Radiohead boycott too? Who else?

    Micheal Moore rules. Has you seen any of his work other than the Bush bashing at the Academy awards? He may be liberal, but most of the time he has a point.

    Derick.
    SDA-2a, Anthem Pre-2L, Anthem Amp 1, MF A324 DAC, Rotel RCD1070

    Senn HD650 Cardas, Mapletree Audio Ear+ HD2, Kimber KS1030, Bel Canto DAC2, M-Audio Transit, Laptop.
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • Demiurge
    Demiurge Posts: 10,874
    edited July 2003
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • dcarlson
    dcarlson Posts: 1,740
    edited July 2003
    Obviously, I've pushed your buttons pretty well there.

    How does having a liberal government show? Most of us are pretty happy up here. It's a nice place to live, you should come up and see for yourself.

    Your a pretty hard core conservative, so I won't continue this argument much furthur because there's no point.
    SDA-2a, Anthem Pre-2L, Anthem Amp 1, MF A324 DAC, Rotel RCD1070

    Senn HD650 Cardas, Mapletree Audio Ear+ HD2, Kimber KS1030, Bel Canto DAC2, M-Audio Transit, Laptop.
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • Demiurge
    Demiurge Posts: 10,874
    edited July 2003
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • Demiurge
    Demiurge Posts: 10,874
    edited July 2003
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • gidrah
    gidrah Posts: 3,049
    edited July 2003
    I'm a veteran who likes Stripes and Sgt Bilko. I probably won't see this because it looks stupid.
    Make it Funky! :)
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • dcarlson
    dcarlson Posts: 1,740
    edited July 2003
    It's your social welfare programs, and state run medical thats going to end up bending you all over and.......you know..

    Our medical system is what we covet most. Universal health care for all. Not to the highest bidder. It's taken a beating in the last few years of cut backs but I think we're on our way back to the right trail.
    SDA-2a, Anthem Pre-2L, Anthem Amp 1, MF A324 DAC, Rotel RCD1070

    Senn HD650 Cardas, Mapletree Audio Ear+ HD2, Kimber KS1030, Bel Canto DAC2, M-Audio Transit, Laptop.
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • Demiurge
    Demiurge Posts: 10,874
    edited July 2003
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • faster100
    faster100 Posts: 6,124
    edited July 2003
    Holy shitzu puppy, I'm outta here..... I sure could stand for the long run here.. but to save face i'm done here..


    BUT!!!!!! BUT Yes having kids makes a difference, You don't know until you have kids, "YOU " might not think different as it seems, but most would ,:D
    MY HT RIG:
    Sherwood p-965
    Sherwood sd871 dvd
    Rotel 1075 amp x5
    LSI15 mains
    LsiC center
    LSIfx surround backs
    Lsi7 side surrounds
    SVS pb12/plus2

    2 Channel Rig:

    nad 1020 Pre-amp
    Rotel 1080 stereo amp
    Polk sda 2B
    kenwood grunt Tuner
    realistic lab 450 TT
    Signal cable IC
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • dcarlson
    dcarlson Posts: 1,740
    edited July 2003
    That's all I got. :D

    I'll keep you in mind the next time I wan't debate some politics.

    It's all good.

    Derick.
    SDA-2a, Anthem Pre-2L, Anthem Amp 1, MF A324 DAC, Rotel RCD1070

    Senn HD650 Cardas, Mapletree Audio Ear+ HD2, Kimber KS1030, Bel Canto DAC2, M-Audio Transit, Laptop.
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • Demiurge
    Demiurge Posts: 10,874
    edited July 2003
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,753
    edited July 2003
    Kids, no kids.....conservative, liberal.......makes no difference. The fact is most of the stuff coming out of Hollywood is crap and this POS should have never been released, if for no other reason than it's in bad taste.
    "Your a pretty hard core conservative, so I won't continue this argument much furthur because there's no point."

    This one always makes me laugh, seems to be the favorite fall back of the left.

    Ain't America great! :D
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

    President of Club Polk

    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • faster100
    faster100 Posts: 6,124
    edited July 2003
    For the record, i didn't start this argument.. you did.. see the first post

    I stated my strong feelings towards something. Nothing else,


    far as movies being crap, what ever.. the whole world is out to get ya too. :D


    i don't feel like a higher up for having kids, Have some respect... i love my kids and wouldn't let them watch something if i thought it would hurt them, Effin disney movies arent hurting them!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    MY HT RIG:
    Sherwood p-965
    Sherwood sd871 dvd
    Rotel 1075 amp x5
    LSI15 mains
    LsiC center
    LSIfx surround backs
    Lsi7 side surrounds
    SVS pb12/plus2

    2 Channel Rig:

    nad 1020 Pre-amp
    Rotel 1080 stereo amp
    Polk sda 2B
    kenwood grunt Tuner
    realistic lab 450 TT
    Signal cable IC
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • RuSsMaN
    RuSsMaN Posts: 17,986
    edited July 2003
    Yes Jesse, it IS great, aint it?

    I say while we are on Disney, Eff Warner Bro's too.

    Cheers,
    Rooster
    Check your lips at the door woman. Shake your hips like battleships. Yeah, all the white girls trip when I sing at Sunday service.
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • faster100
    faster100 Posts: 6,124
    edited July 2003
    AH Russman, no political agenda's for you????
    MY HT RIG:
    Sherwood p-965
    Sherwood sd871 dvd
    Rotel 1075 amp x5
    LSI15 mains
    LsiC center
    LSIfx surround backs
    Lsi7 side surrounds
    SVS pb12/plus2

    2 Channel Rig:

    nad 1020 Pre-amp
    Rotel 1080 stereo amp
    Polk sda 2B
    kenwood grunt Tuner
    realistic lab 450 TT
    Signal cable IC
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • Demiurge
    Demiurge Posts: 10,874
    edited July 2003
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,782
    edited July 2003
    WEEEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • faster100
    faster100 Posts: 6,124
    edited July 2003
    I have no need to back my feelings up, MX said it best.... I have my feelings and they arent purely political as yours are, and you have yours..

    My feelings are purely from a kids standpoint, Not the political agenda you carry,

    "I don't ever remember sayig that Disney was out to 'hurt' kids."

    Did you not say lets BOYcott disney?? then why would you say this if they werent doing something "BAD" in your eyes..


    "I have plenty of respect. It feels is if the loss or respect is the other way around."

    Nope not at all, thiers a difference between not respecting someone and just out right disagreeing with them, I choose the later of the 2.....


    I also just don't want to fight on the board, you have a uncanny way of trying to keep things going, even after i said i was done.. you pushed a few more buttons to try and get a bite back.. I don't like debating like that,


    Listen, the movie you mentioned, i didn't even think about.. maybe its bad taste?? I don't care.. Far as Disney as a whole, I don't know the underlying problems or agenda's with Disney nor do i care to debate over something i don't care to know about. I am talking strictly on a kids watching their movies basis, which you stated in the future you were faising out Disney... That tells me you think they convey a bad message to toddlers and young children that you don't care for. ALL i'm saying is i just don't read so far into these shows and movies to think of the hidden agenda's they may carry...

    The whole **** teletubbies ****, the parents "who think they see something in a movie" ****, Get real and let the kids watch and decide, parents stay out of it,

    The day one of my Daughters says, DAD i seen this, or i seen that in a movie, is the day i will rethink what they are watching
    MY HT RIG:
    Sherwood p-965
    Sherwood sd871 dvd
    Rotel 1075 amp x5
    LSI15 mains
    LsiC center
    LSIfx surround backs
    Lsi7 side surrounds
    SVS pb12/plus2

    2 Channel Rig:

    nad 1020 Pre-amp
    Rotel 1080 stereo amp
    Polk sda 2B
    kenwood grunt Tuner
    realistic lab 450 TT
    Signal cable IC
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • phoneisbusy
    phoneisbusy Posts: 867
    edited July 2003
    Originally posted by RuSsMaN
    Yes Jesse, it IS great, aint it?

    I say while we are on Disney, Eff Warner Bro's too.

    Cheers,
    Rooster

    Creators of Animaniacs and Pinky and the Brain? Say it isn't so!!

    Dave
    Time is the best teacher. Unfortunately it kills all its students.
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • Demiurge
    Demiurge Posts: 10,874
    edited July 2003
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • brettw22
    brettw22 Posts: 7,623
    edited July 2003
    Originally posted by Demiurge
    I didn't say Disney was overtly 'harming' children. They are pushing an agenda, and children eat it up.
    Doesn't this statement seem a bit odd? I'm not aware of any sort of reports or stories about a children (the variable) acting out, or picking up on agendas that they're getting out of Disney movies specifically (which is what you're asserting).

    Seems to me that you (the adult) are the one picking at, and bringing what you perceive to be, the agenda into the limelight where the kids who wouldn't otherwise know what the hell you're talkin about now get to hear your spin on something that may or may not exist.

    The movie may be in bad taste to some, but can you really say that there's a movie studio or company out there that hasn't ever released a movie like that?
    comment comment comment comment. bitchy.
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • Demiurge
    Demiurge Posts: 10,874
    edited July 2003
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • wlrandall
    wlrandall Posts: 440
    edited July 2003
    Interesting debate...

    I think Disney knows exactly what they're doing. Not one of you has even mentioned the expletive in "Finding Nemo".

    Opening tank scene in the dentists' office, when the little French crustacean emerges. While cleaning himself, he utters "merde", which is French slang for S-H-I-T. Was that unintentional?? Hardly...
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • brettw22
    brettw22 Posts: 7,623
    edited July 2003
    You've stated your opinion, and I do get it, but what I don't understand is why you've chosen to pinpoint Disney specifically. If you're so offended/amazed at this one company's liberal agenda, then why not boycott them all and list every company out that you have a problem with for pushing their agenda's onto you.

    I'm not specifically taking issue with the Disney cartoon movies that they put out, but to imply that Disney as a whole has this masterminded goal to convert your ideology to theirs is ridiculous. In that regard, yes, you are coming across as a conspiracy theorist and probably should just relax a bit and not think that everyone's "out to getcha."

    Please, by all means, which movie studios haven't ever released a movie that could have been perceived to be in bad taste?
    comment comment comment comment. bitchy.
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • Ron-P
    Ron-P Posts: 8,520
    edited July 2003
    Opening tank scene in the dentists' office, when the little French crustacean emerges. While cleaning himself, he utters "merde", which is French slang for S-H-I-T. Was that unintentional?? Hardly...
    Good gad man. Are we really being this nit-picky. I'm sure my daughter will hear worse in every day life then once from a cartoon.

    By the way, what's wrong with Liberalism?

    Every movie studio, director...etc., has an agenda and pushes it onto the gereral public in every movie you see. What makes Disney so special?


    Peace Out~:D
    If...
    Ron dislikes a film = go out and buy it.
    Ron loves a film = don't even rent.
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter