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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,217
    edited August 2010
    Bernal wrote: »
    + 1.
    ... oval drivers...:confused:

    It's a nice design. It is not to my liking total expected something different. Not so plastic.
    I will wait for my dealer has them and I will see if the sound exceeds LSi. I have doubts about the effect of oval speakers ....




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    You are misguided! You haven't seen them in the flesh nor heard them and aleady you have your biases.

    You are misguided.

    Come back after you have spent some quality time with the real thing and then, and only then, will your babbling have any meaning.

    Unless of course you have heard and seen them aleady.

    H9
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  • comfortablycurt
    comfortablycurt Posts: 6,745
    edited August 2010
    I REALLY dig the look of these new LSi's. A LOT!! Some damn sexy speakers if I may say so.

    I haven't read back through all the pages that I've missed...but is there any word on rough pricing for them yet?

    I can't wait until all you people start buying the new LSi's, cuz then I'll be able to buy your old LSi's for dirt cheap!!:D
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  • Bernal
    Bernal Posts: 991
    edited August 2010
    ohskigod wrote: »
    thank you for literally contributing nothing to this thread whatsoever, you're a peach


    Thanks ...
    The truth is no one can say about the sound with a photo.
    You say that you hear the sound of a picture, I congratulate you.
  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,217
    edited August 2010
    Bernal wrote: »
    Thanks ...
    The truth is no one can say about the sound with a photo.
    You say that you hear the sound of a picture, I congratulate you.

    I don't believe anyone has said anything about how they sound other than Doro (Mark) as he's the only one that has heard them. Actually you are the only one questioning how they sound.
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,217
    edited August 2010
    ...but is there any word on rough pricing for them yet?

    $3000 and $4000/pr for the floor standers, not sure on the bookshelf type.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 0
    edited August 2010
    Stupid iphone pics but they're the latest. There's also closer pics of the AR equipment.
  • SivaNevets
    SivaNevets Posts: 303
    edited August 2010
    Bernal wrote: »
    + 1.
    ... oval drivers...:confused:

    It's a nice design. It is not to my liking total expected something different. Not so plastic.
    I will wait for my dealer has them and I will see if the sound exceeds LSi. I have doubts about the effect of oval speakers ....




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    theres no doubt that OVAL geometry distorts sound, but they cannot be detected with human ears at lower frequency range.
    the benefit of using OVAL geometry, my guess would be: gives more surface area(thus more bass) while keep the cabinent narrow, a narrow cabinent is good.

    personelly i prefer the old LSI looking too. the new design is not bad, but lack of conceptual clearity - too many ideas being squeeze together.

    and the woofer material doesnt look good even POLK argues they are the best material they have found.

    still exciting news though, i may consider the bookshelf version as my next audio investment
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited August 2010
    SivaNevets wrote: »
    theres no doubt that OVAL geometry distorts sound, but they cannot be detected with human ears at lower frequency range.
    the benefit of using OVAL geometry, my guess would be: gives more surface area(thus more bass) while keep the cabinent narrow, a narrow cabinent is good.

    personelly i prefer the old LSI looking too. the new design is not bad, but lack of conceptual clearity - too many ideas being squeeze together.

    and the woofer material doesnt look good even POLK argues they are the best material they have found.

    still exciting news though, i may consider the bookshelf version as my next audio investment

    Most of that has already been mentioned previously and drivers can be tweaked and re-engineered. This isn't the racetrack woofer of the 1970's.
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  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 0
    edited August 2010
    And please disregard that pic with the wrong cones. See my post.
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 0
    edited August 2010
    Zero wrote: »
    It would also be cool comparing them directly to my vintage 2001/2002 LSi-9's. You know, the ones that were made in Mexico, sport the light cherry veneer and cool bezel top. Talk about going 'full circle' eh?


    Wow. That's when I started working here. Been here 10 years on 8/28.
  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,798
    edited August 2010
    I gotta admit - I like the silver cones better???

    Go figure - everything doesnt HAVE to be black.

    Although I will most likely buy them used, over the next few years I could see myself picking up a set of those bookshelf speakers
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  • cstmar01
    cstmar01 Posts: 4,424
    edited August 2010
    Josh great work if you had a hand in the design!

    I love the top of these too, no longer will one have to fear having a drink placed on your speaker....your floor will now hate you...no white carpet..


    and thanks for the info Mark with the power ports, I really dig it.
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 0
    edited August 2010
    No design work but building the prototype from scratch was a challenge. The sonic prototypes or "mules" as we call them were built with removeable front baffles so we could modify the internal structues, port lengths, etc. Mules are just for testing so they're just bare MDF.
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 0
    edited August 2010
    cstmar01 wrote: »
    I love the top of these too, no longer will one have to fear having a drink placed on your speaker....your floor will now hate you...no white carpet..

    I may be wrong but I believe that was one reason for the curved top.

    I invite you to check out the .pdf's from Mark with all the tech write ups. Great read.
  • texas ed
    texas ed Posts: 139
    edited August 2010
    Damn.Why is there so much in-fighting on this forum? Sometimes it is good to be new(me) to something to keep it in perspective.You would think that a newly revised product line would create excitement, not character attacks,etc..Everyone on this board has a right to express their opinion within reason.Until this new series get out in the mainstream we only have aesthics to make judgement on.I myself had visions on what the new LSI's would look like.Who didn't? Usually a first response is an emotional one and it is evident here.I am not trying to make waves or start a debate on anything.I am going to wait like everyone else to hear them and pass judgement then.I don't buy audio equipment for anyone but myself so far be it from me to try to presuade or disuade(spelling?) another person on their purchases.I truly can't wait to see and hear this new line by Polk Audio.Is it that hard to turn the other cheek and simply ignore a comment you do not like on this board? Regards, Eddie Kryk
  • newsman
    newsman Posts: 203
    edited August 2010
    Looking at the life pictures - mid-range woofers are gray in color and not light-gray shiny like in the "official" picture, which looks computer generated to me. Metal logo looks really nice - it's also looks different from the official picture.

    Can anyone at Polk comment which one will be in the final design?
    I personally OK with either logo, as long as it's in good taste and metal. If it was my choice, for midrange color I would stick with Polk Blue :)
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    lsi7-cherry-large.jpg

    This is a signature color for me when it comes to Polk, kind of like everyone associates yellow Kevlar cone with B&W.
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    Of course in the end, it's the sound that matters.
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 0
    edited August 2010
  • cfrizz
    cfrizz Posts: 13,415
    edited August 2010
    They are absolutely beautiful! Can't wait to see & hear them. Congrats Polk.
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  • TECHNOKID
    TECHNOKID Posts: 4,298
    edited August 2010
    Bernal wrote: »
    + 1.
    ... oval drivers...:confused:

    It's a nice design. It is not to my liking total expected something different. Not so plastic.
    I will wait for my dealer has them and I will see if the sound exceeds LSi. I have doubts about the effect of oval speakers ....




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    heiney9 wrote: »
    You are misguided! You haven't seen them in the flesh nor heard them and aleady you have your biases.

    You are misguided.

    Come back after you have spent some quality time with the real thing and then, and only then, will your babbling have any meaning.

    Unless of course you have heard and seen them aleady.

    H9
    Let's make a deal Bernal, no more comments until you hear them ;) As far as the look, most people seem to like and...
    Bernal wrote: »
    Thanks ...
    The truth is no one can say about the sound with a photo.
    You say that you hear the sound of a picture, I congratulate you.
    ...As far as the sound, people's comments are that they hope they sound as good as they look ;) Nobody but Mark (Doro) has claimed that they sound amazing, he points out he intends to buy some, I guess that should count for something until we get our own audition ,right? :D

    Josh wrote: »
    I may be wrong but I believe that was one reason for the curved top.
    I invite you to check out the .pdf's from Mark with all the tech write ups. Great read.
    ...mess up the floor :eek::D:p

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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited August 2010
    I bet they'll image like a SOB. :D
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  • maximillian
    maximillian Posts: 2,144
    edited August 2010
    TECHNOKID wrote: »
    Nobody but Mark (Doro) has claimed that they sound amazing, he points out he intends to buy some, I guess that should count for something until we get our own audition ,right? :D

    You could probably bet that these are going to sound fantastic. Of course, people's tastes vary and are subjective. However, Polk is an industry leader in speaker design so I am sure they know what they are doing. I am sure they wouldn't raise the MSRP and list these as LSi replacements without having confidence that the sound is worthy of the series name and price.

    Also, although I don't know Doro personally, his comments on this forum suggest that he has an experienced, refined, and unbiased opinion, even though he's is a Polk employee.

    So unless both Polk and Doro both took the crazy train, these are going to sound fantastic.
  • Demiurge
    Demiurge Posts: 10,874
    edited August 2010
    It's hard to find a good balance here between the people who just want to **** about something and the royal suck ups who think they'll be allowed to keep a set of these like it was a Hitmaster.
  • polkatese
    polkatese Posts: 6,767
    edited August 2010
    No in between eh, Demi? :)
    I am sorry, I have no opinion on the matter. I am sure you do. So, don't mind me, I just want to talk audio and pie.
  • Demiurge
    Demiurge Posts: 10,874
    edited August 2010
    polkatese wrote: »
    No in between eh, Demi? :)

    There are, just not enough of them posting. :)
  • lightman1
    lightman1 Posts: 10,794
    edited August 2010
    Demiurge wrote: »
    There are, just not enough of them posting. :)
    I think both sides of the argument suck. How 'bout that, Demi?:)
  • Bernal
    Bernal Posts: 991
    edited August 2010
    TECHNOKID wrote: »
    Let's make a deal Bernal, no more comments until you hear them ;) As far as the look, most people seem to like and...


    Ok. No more comments and wait ...;)
    Meanwhile, I'll enjoy the music with my LSi series





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  • Demiurge
    Demiurge Posts: 10,874
    edited August 2010
    lightman1 wrote: »
    I think both sides of the argument suck. How 'bout that, Demi?:)

    :eek: :eek: :eek:
  • maximillian
    maximillian Posts: 2,144
    edited August 2010
    Wait, which side am I on?

    Sorry if paying a compliment to someone who's posts I found helpful is considered "sucking up". For the record though, I did criticize the look of the black version but think the cherry version is quite nice. So does that make me fair and balanced? :)
  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 17,204
    edited August 2010
    Face wrote: »
    I bet they'll image like a SOB. :D

    Honestly what polk mid to high end speaker have you heard that didn't? I think all the RT RTi RTIA etc do as well as all the LSI's current.

    I'm sure they didn't lose that , if they did they would be lacking a signature polk sound.

    I'm eager to hear a pair. They look great.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,798
    edited August 2010
    I hear ya Sean - I am very excited about this and cant wait o get my handsd on some bookies
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