New LSi
Comments
-
The difference being that the partitions in the TDL(formerly IMF) are to form the folds in a Trans line making the effective path length for the rear output of the woofer longer.
-
I believe Doro is referring to the physical alignment of the drivers acoustic centers. It sounds better and is cheaper than adding more junk to the crossover.
Yes. 100% agree.CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint. -
Given that the new lines uses an updated ring radiator tweeter, and the current LSi's use the older version, would Polk recommend that the two lines are sufficiently voice matched so that it doesn't require switching all speakers over to the new line. I could see wanting to swap out an LSiC for the larger new version if getting the front mains updated to the new bigger towers, but would it be necessary to replace LSiFX surrounds in a 7.1 system? My guess is probably not because the LSiFX's are very well done big surround speakers in the current line.
My opinion is yes and no. I think they would integrate well within an existing LSi setup but they are dramatically different in presentation.CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint. -
Hello,
In conversation yesterday with my uncle on the new line of Polk and see the images in this forum, he told me very surprised are similar to my TDL.
Have them at home and worked. The sound is very good.
It is very interesting and so I share with you.
You rag on the aesthetics and driver choice of the new LSiM series and then post that mongrel dog of a speaker? Interesting.CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint. -
Has everyone ganged and agreed that everyone at the same time should go through their PMSYou rag on the aesthetics and driver choice of the new LSiM series and then post that mongrel dog of a speaker? Interesting.
:rolleyes::p It looks like everyone's attitude is down to **** these days and comments well...
Of course if you present something that is over 30 years old it surely will look hugly as hell in most cases. However, what is of interest, is the fact that a new product has the design of some similar to what was tought many years ago. This also happens a lot more often then we think, ideas comes back every once in a while, some that was great was put on shelf 13, the idea was never sold and then pops up again with new high technology and is a total success.
Cheers!
TKDARE TO SOAR:
Your attitude, almost always determine your altitude in life
-
The new LSi M has nothing to do with an older Transmission Line type speaker. In the same way a 70's Woodie station wagon is a completely different animal than today's mini-van.
H9"Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul! -
Bernal,
1. They are both Loudspeakers so there are similarities such as cabinet, look, driver appearance, and shape may exist. But you know these are not the same speakers.
2. Have patience and listen to the new LSi-M when it arrives to the dealer near you.
3. This is LSi-M speaker thread so if it interests you, please check it out. If it doesn't, please stop saying this speaker look the same as the old one from here and there. READ No. 1 again!
4. Have more patience and judge the LSi-M after you listen to it
I personally have a ton of things to say about the new LSi-M but everything I say now is unfair to say coz I am saying based on what I think. It's not WHAT I KNOW from the real experience.
So, I am not going to say a thing till I hear with my own ears. I hope you do the same.
But I am willing to bet these LSi-M will sounds better or just as good as the current LSi speakers. It doesn't matter whether you or I like the new one or not, it's important that Polk listened to it's customer and designed the new model for LSi line.Hello,
In conversation yesterday with my uncle on the new line of Polk and see the images in this forum, he told me very surprised are similar to my TDL.
Have them at home and worked. The sound is very good.
It is very interesting and so I share with you.Trying out Different Audio Cables is a Religious Affair. You don't discuss it with anyone. :redface::biggrin: -
Bernal,
1. They are both Loudspeakers so there are similarities such as cabinet, look, driver appearance, and shape may exist. But you know these are not the same speakers.
2. Have patience and listen to the new LSi-M when it arrives to the dealer near you.
3. This is LSi-M speaker thread so if it interests you, please check it out. If it doesn't, please stop saying this speaker look the same as the old one from here and there. READ No. 1 again!
4. Have more patience and judge the LSi-M after you listen to it
I personally have a ton of things to say about the new LSi-M but everything I say now is unfair to say coz I am saying based on what I think. It's not WHAT I KNOW from the real experience.
So, I am not going to say a thing till I hear with my own ears. I hope you do the same.
But I am willing to bet these LSi-M will sounds better or just as good as the current LSi speakers. It doesn't matter whether you or I like the new one or not, it's important that Polk listened to it's customer and designed the new model for LSi line.
I totally agree.
In my previous publication express that I will wait for that are available with my provider and I am dedicating time to my new Yamaha CVP-509....
This point was noted by my uncle. I did not know the TDL.
I found it interesting to share, just that. Sorry, I did not do anything improper.:o -
I found it interesting to share, just that. Sorry, I did not do anything improper.:o
I don't think you did anything improper but I know you are very excited and eager about the new LSi-M. Just a few months more and one will be arriving near you (and hopefully your home).
Trying out Different Audio Cables is a Religious Affair. You don't discuss it with anyone. :redface::biggrin: -
Has everyone ganged and agreed that everyone at the same time should go through their PMS:rolleyes::p It looks like everyone's attitude is down to **** these days and comments well...
Of course if you present something that is over 30 years old it surely will look hugly as hell in most cases. However, what is of interest, is the fact that a new product has the design of some similar to what was tought many years ago. This also happens a lot more often then we think, ideas comes back every once in a while, some that was great was put on shelf 13, the idea was never sold and then pops up again with new high technology and is a total success.
Cheers!
TK
I believe we all have the right to an opinion correct? I believe if you look back historically you'll find me a fan of the racetrack design since I'm a KEF fanatic. Sorry that you want to bandwagon but I'm simply doing what I usually do here. Love me or leave me. I think you need to go back an read some of Bernal's posts before you go off on a tangent based on nothing.CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint. -
Uh oh, I see a dispute brewing. Where are the mods? :rolleyes::p:)
Chris -
The mods are in the LsiMUh oh, I see a dispute brewing. Where are the mods? :rolleyes::p:)
Chris DARE TO SOAR:
Your attitude, almost always determine your altitude in life -
I believe we all have the right to an opinion correct? I believe if you look back historically you'll find me a fan of the racetrack design since I'm a KEF fanatic. Sorry that you want to bandwagon but I'm simply doing what I usually do here. Love me or leave me. I think you need to go back an read some of Bernal's posts before you go off on a tangent based on nothing.
I know some people write some things on here that make you wonder about their mental state but for what it's worth i think as a moderator your should rise above and maybe show a little more maturity in your responses and lead by example on how to post without stiring up more unusefull input.
As a polk lover from long ago (monitor 12's & other vintage models) i cant wait for the new LsiM to hit Australia's shores. Its been a long time comming and here's hoping its worth the wait. From what i've read and seen so far it looks like it will be.2 Channel
Amp - Jas Audio Bravo 3.2 set
Power Cord - Tunami GPX
CDP - Marantz cd6002 - Audio gd Ref 5 Dac
Speakers - Tekton Lore,Polk Audio RTA11tl completely refreshed. -
His mental state is fine. Just like wz2p7j, his sense of humor doesn't always translate to text very well, let's move on."He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche
-
this new version of the LSi look s exciting, way more than a facelift of the existing line. This is a complete make over.
I still haven't seen the MSRP of the bookshelf.
And I know specs. aren't everything, but are any specs. posted?Dodd - Battery Preamp
Monarchy Audio SE100 Delux - mono power amps
Sony DVP-NS999ES - SACD player
ADS 1230 - Polk SDA 2B
DIY Stereo Subwoofer towers w/(4) 12 drivers each
Crown K1 - Subwoofer amp
Outlaw ICBM - crossover
Beringher BFD - sub eq
Where is the remote? Where is the $%#$% remote!
"I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us have...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..." -
Not doro's mental state. Others.2 Channel
Amp - Jas Audio Bravo 3.2 set
Power Cord - Tunami GPX
CDP - Marantz cd6002 - Audio gd Ref 5 Dac
Speakers - Tekton Lore,Polk Audio RTA11tl completely refreshed. -
If you check the documents Mark has posted, there is pricing and basic specs on them. If I can recall the bookshelf are priced at 1500$ pair???this new version of the LSi look s exciting, way more than a facelift of the existing line. This is a complete make over.
I still haven't seen the MSRP of the bookshelf.
And I know specs. aren't everything, but are any specs. posted?DARE TO SOAR:
Your attitude, almost always determine your altitude in life -
His mental state is fine. Just like wz2p7j, his sense of humor doesn't always translate to text very well, let's move on.
My sense of humor translates fine because usually it's kinda funny.
:D
By the way, it's OK to call me Chris. :eek::eek:
Chris -
deleted (wrong product)DARE TO SOAR:
Your attitude, almost always determine your altitude in life -
If you check the documents Mark has posted, there is pricing and basic specs on them. If I can recall the bookshelf are priced at 1500$ pair???
ummm nopeDodd - Battery Preamp
Monarchy Audio SE100 Delux - mono power amps
Sony DVP-NS999ES - SACD player
ADS 1230 - Polk SDA 2B
DIY Stereo Subwoofer towers w/(4) 12 drivers each
Crown K1 - Subwoofer amp
Outlaw ICBM - crossover
Beringher BFD - sub eq
Where is the remote? Where is the $%#$% remote!
"I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us have...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..." -
Polk Audio...MAKE SOME NEW SDA'S!!!
-
Conradicles wrote: »Polk Audio...MAKE SOME NEW SDA'S!!!
lol... I think that bridge was burned long ago. Thank God they care enough to support those of us that still love speakers big enough to be buried in.:)
I eagerly look forward to hearing the new line and perhaps demoing them at home sometime.The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD
“When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson -
I know some people write some things on here that make you wonder about their mental state but for what it's worth i think as a moderator your should rise above and maybe show a little more maturity in your responses and lead by example on how to post without stiring up more unusefull input.
As a polk lover from long ago (monitor 12's & other vintage models) i cant wait for the new LsiM to hit Australia's shores. Its been a long time comming and here's hoping its worth the wait. From what i've read and seen so far it looks like it will be.
Regardless, does it make his statement any less valid ? It took me all of 10 minutes to read this thread and see the baseless downplay and brown nosing. All in all, no ones used the product so continually trying to talk it down is pointless. Debate over design, product specs etc is one thing, you know... worthy discussion. The constant "oh god they ruined it" "it'll sound like crap" "some vintage speaker did it first", it's retarded. Being a mod, he's entirely more patient than I am. I would've locked both their asses out of the thread.I should've listened way back in 2008, they told me I'd go broke... they were right -
Let's get back on track like Face alluded to earlier. Our purpose here is to discuss the new LSiM, period. I'm certainly guilty of veering over the guardrail and that doesn't help things either. This place really matters to me and I get emotionally charged along this highway.
You know what I like about what Polk has done with this series? Everything. If you historically look at new product innovation or introduction of new products by this company, this is a true departure.
The "Engine"? Seriously? Read about it again. The base plate having externally adustable feet....rear binding post assembly being a plate instead of a plastic box....the simple logo being metal....the xovers having high quality components....all of these things, large and small are very unlike what Polk has done in the past.
We should be crazy over this and not so much nit picking. I've been a fan of Polk since 1985. That's not to say I haven't hated some of the things they have produced and I'll continue to be critical of the past. I'm really floored by the LSiM not only from a tech or sonic standpoint but that they really listened to the heartbeat of US....the buyer, the seller, the looker, the listener....there are so many things that pop with this series from my standpoint, that I'm jumping inside my head. If this loudspeaker doesn't hit the cover of a trade magazine, I would be shocked. It's THAT good.
I peruse many forums under the same name for my work and I read more negative press about Polk than any other product. The name has been dilluted over the years because of bad products, hole fillers and poor design. KAB said it best when he said that Polk needed to get back to the roots of the product, the roots of what made the RM series so good....why it was 35% of the sales back in the day....what made the LSi so good....roots man, freaking grassroots and new thinking, new ppl with no reigns to hold them down anymore.
If the Blackstone and new LSiM don't encourage you to la vida loca your love for Polk again, nothing will. I wish that you guys could listen to them NOW but we'll have to placate our renewed support from afar for for the time being. I assure you that we'll have both a Blackstone and LSiM available in the demo program that I currently handle. If I have to rotate my own speakers to satisfy you guys and gals, I will do so without hesitation.
Let's be happy, motivated and relentless in our support and request for Polk to keep this kind of product and vision moving. Oh, and go buy a pair...it's time for your old RM series to hit the bricks. It's time for your first generation LSi to find a new home.
Let's get it on. Who's gonna be the first to sign up for a demo? CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint. -
Great stuff Mark! I'm glad to see that Polk is getting back into the game big time. They sure do have the R&D & the clout to make a huge impact on the market. I'd love to get my ears on the new LSiM Monitors. Please sign me up for the demo. Thanks."2 Channel & 11.2 HT "Two Channel:Magnepan LRSSchiit Audio Freya S - SS preConsonance Ref 50 - Tube preParasound HALO A21+ 2 channel ampBluesound NODE 2i streameriFi NEO iDSD DAC Oppo BDP-93KEF KC62 sub Home Theater:Full blown 11.2 set up.
-
Have to ask why Polk cant make a freakin tower without a subwoofer though.
I mean really, I absolutely hate having subwoofers in towers. I just do not see the appeal...
And the RT series does not count... I had many affairs with that series over the years...
RT5, RT35i, RT25i, CS245i, RT55, RTi70 - big BLAH\
Depending on money and such when they come out I may just buy a new pair of monitors. I am super excited about this series.- Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit. -
Let's get it on. Who's gonna be the first to sign up for a demo?
The problem is you talk too much, man!
Now, it's ME ME ME. I want in the Demo if there is ever one!Trying out Different Audio Cables is a Religious Affair. You don't discuss it with anyone. :redface::biggrin: -
Vr3MxStyler2k3 wrote: »Have to ask why Polk cant make a freakin tower without a subwoofer though.
It's probably semantics. A full range speaker should go from 20-20KHz, and ideally beyond each boundry. In the past we simply referred to the low frequency speaker as a woofer. Now due to marketing we have sub-woofers. As long as the speaker can accurately reproduce what it is sent I do not care what it is called. Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
Sony XA-5400ES SACD; Pass XP-22 pre; X600.5 amps
Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers; SPOD spikes
Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR on source, Denali 2000 (2) on amps
Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables
Mapleshade Samson V.3 four shelf solid maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
Three 20 amp circuits. -
Eh
I dont woofer anything in my main speakers.
I want MIDBASSES
They dig SOLID to 35hz --- I am sure any active, separate subwoofer can handle 35hz and below?
I think the monitors with the midrange tweeter midbass combo will be right up my ally.
I love midrange -- and I think the LSiM having a dedicated midrange will help get rid of that bloated midbass sound I heard from the old LSi series...- Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit. -
It's probably semantics. A full range speaker should go from 20-20KHz, and ideally beyond each boundry. In the past we simply referred to the low frequency speaker as a woofer. Now due to marketing we have sub-woofers. As long as the speaker can accurately reproduce what it is sent I do not care what it is called.
Agreed. It's freq. range and wordplay.
Trey - You don't need 4 woofers to accurately reproduce midrange. Do you realize where the voices are in regards to spectrum? It's a blend between the two drivers depending on the design, moreso the tweeter.
In the LSiM, the engine handles the 200 - 20k range.CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
