Universal Music Japan's possible return to single-layer SACD (with Steely Dan's Aja)

Danny Tse
Danny Tse Posts: 5,206
edited January 2011 in Music & Movies
OK, for now, it's still a rumor. However, signs are pointing to this rumor being realized this coming June, including pre-orders being taken at Amazon Jp and HMV Jp. Anyway, the below translation pretty much sums up all that's available right now....

http://translate.google.co.jp/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.phileweb.com%2Fnews%2Faudio%2F201004%2F15%2F9863.html&sl=ja&tl=en&hl=ja&ie=UTF-8
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,460
    edited April 2010
    I am in on this one when it comes out...
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  • pmckeealaska
    pmckeealaska Posts: 808
    edited April 2010
    Fantastic album! I will definately get this one on SACD. The drums at the end of the title track are worth the price alone!
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  • danger boy
    danger boy Posts: 15,722
    edited April 2010
    SACD IS DEAD, time to move on
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  • pmckeealaska
    pmckeealaska Posts: 808
    edited April 2010
    Well, I own about 100 SACD's and have bought several recently so I would say you're dead wrong dnager boy. I even still buy the ocassional DVD-A so there still seem to be plenty of titles out there.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,729
    edited April 2010
    Oh hell yeah, I'm on it.
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  • engtaz
    engtaz Posts: 7,664
    edited April 2010
    Great news
    engtaz

    I love how music can brighten up a bad day.
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  • Danny Tse
    Danny Tse Posts: 5,206
    edited April 2010
    More and more signs the Japan Universal Music single-layer SACDs are real. In fact, looks like these SACDs will be SHM-SACDs. SHM stands Super Hard Material, a new material used to make optical discs. It was previously used to make SHM CDs.

    The pop/rock SHM-SACDs have just been listed on sa-cd.net
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  • Danny Tse
    Danny Tse Posts: 5,206
    edited April 2010
    Here's a preview....

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  • Danny Tse
    Danny Tse Posts: 5,206
    edited April 2010
    "Who's Next / The Who" - New 2010 DSD Transfer from the Analog Tapes
    "461 Ocean Boulevard / Eric Clapton" - New 2010 DSD Transfer from the Analog Tapes
    "Every Good Boy Deserves Favour / The Moody Blues" - New 2010 DSD Transfer from the Analog Tapes
    "Aja / Steely Dan" - New 2010 DSD Transfer from the Analog Tapes
    "Synchronicity / The Police" - 2003 A&M SACD DSD master
    "Velvet Underground and Nico / Velvet Underground" - New 2010 DSD Transfer from the Analog Tapes
    "Live At Fillmore East / Allman Brothers Band" - New 2010 DSD Transfer from the Analog Tapes
    "What's Going On / Marvin Gaye" - From the 2008 Mobile Fidelity DSD master
    "Layla" / Derek & The Dominoes - New 2010 DSD Transfer from the Analog Tapes
    "Let It Bleed / The Rolling Stones" - From the 2002 ABCKO SACD
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  • Polkitup2
    Polkitup2 Posts: 1,623
    edited April 2010
    Here's another site that lists the releases coming 6/23
    http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/home/search?fastsearch=SHM-CD&rubric=poprock&pd_orderby=score&pd_medium=SACD
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  • virtualdean
    virtualdean Posts: 286
    edited April 2010
    Danny Tse wrote: »
    Here's a preview....

    92419712.jpg

    Danny:

    what exactly does single layer mean? I know hybrd has 3 layers.
    Reg CD/SACD stereo/Multi-Channel SACD ..
    Is SACD single layer Only Stereo or Only MultiChannel or....

    Thanks in advance
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  • shack
    shack Posts: 11,154
    edited April 2010
    Single layer = Stereo SACD only.
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  • Danny Tse
    Danny Tse Posts: 5,206
    edited April 2010
    virtualdean wrote: »
    what exactly does single layer mean? I know hybrd has 3 layers.
    Reg CD/SACD stereo/Multi-Channel SACD ..
    Is SACD single layer Only Stereo or Only MultiChannel or....
    shack wrote: »
    Single layer = Stereo SACD only.

    Single-layer means there's no CD layer. With a hybrid SACD, there's a CD layer and a SACD layer. Therefore, 2 layers at the most on any SACD. On the SACD layer, it can contain a 2 channel stereo section, or if available, a separate multi-channel surround section.....a single-layer SACD can be stereo only, or with separate multi-channel surround mix.

    In its early days, at least in the US, some SACDs were single-layer stereo only. These titles were later reissued as single-layer stereo and multi-channel surround. And certain SACD titles were even reissued a third time as hybrid SACD by adding the CD layer. For example, Toto IV (the hybrid SACD of Toto IV was only released in Europe).

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  • shack
    shack Posts: 11,154
    edited April 2010
    Danny Tse wrote:
    In its early days, at least in the US, some SACDs were single-layer stereo only. These titles were later reissued as single-layer stereo and multi-channel surround. And certain SACD titles were even reissued a third time as hybrid SACD by adding the CD layer. For example, Toto IV (the hybrid SACD of Toto IV was only released in Europe).

    Are you sure about that? Both SRV (Texas Flood/Couldn't Stand the Weather), Boston, Santana Abraxas, Blood Sweat and Tears, Toto Hydra, the Police catalog, most of Peter Gabriels catalog are SACDs that I have that I'm not aware that were ever issued in MC...only single layer stereo. In Japan maybe?
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,729
    edited April 2010
    I placed my order, can't wait. :D
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  • vc69
    vc69 Posts: 2,500
    edited April 2010
    Jesse, where did you order from and do you have prior dealings with them? I have never ordered from either of the two linked stores and was a bit apprehensive.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,729
    edited April 2010
    I ended up placing my order with http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/ as I already had an account with them. However, Danny assured me that HMV Jp is excellent.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

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  • Polkitup2
    Polkitup2 Posts: 1,623
    edited April 2010
    I just ordered one from cdbanq...
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  • danfaz
    danfaz Posts: 2
    edited April 2010
    shack wrote: »
    Single layer = Stereo SACD only.

    Actually, there are plenty of single layer m-ch releases:
    Acoustic Sounds has a handy catagory system for SACDs.

    vc69 wrote: »
    I have never ordered from either of the two linked stores and was a bit apprehensive.

    I've been a cdjapan member for years & have ordered many items from them. Great experience.

    cdbanq has a perfect feeback rating in the thousands on ebay in addition to their online shop.


    P.S. I ordered The Who & The Police from cdbanq. They have cheaper shipping rates for registered airmail.
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  • vc69
    vc69 Posts: 2,500
    edited April 2010
    I ended up ordering from cdbanq. If all goes well, and I have no reason to expect otherwise, I will be a happy camper. Thanks for the replies!
    -Kevin
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  • Danny Tse
    Danny Tse Posts: 5,206
    edited April 2010
    Just added to the list....

    L.A. Guns - Shrinking Violet +6 [Japan LTD SHM-SACD]
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  • moe
    moe Posts: 48
    edited April 2010
    danger boy wrote: »
    SACD IS DEAD, time to move on

    SACD may be on life support....but it ain't dead, I just bought two new releases.

    Thanks for the post OP.
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  • danfaz
    danfaz Posts: 2
    edited April 2010
    Danny Tse wrote: »
    Just added to the list....

    L.A. Guns - Shrinking Violet +6 [Japan LTD SHM-SACD]

    This one might be questionable. cdbanq has it as a SACD, but some sites say it's just SHM-CD??

    http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=UICE-1162
    http://eil.com/shop/moreinfo.asp?catalogid=505131
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,729
    edited April 2010
    Since these SHM-SACD's were announced, I've been reading what folks have to say on some of the other audio sites and I have to admit that I am taken back at the amount of pessimism. Bitching about the cost, that they are 2 channel only, how the shipping from Japan costs too much, that maybe some of the tapes aren't the original masters and on and on and on. You'd think that folks would be jumping for joy that some rock/blues were being released again by one of the major labels. Lord knows, I am.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

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  • Danny Tse
    Danny Tse Posts: 5,206
    edited April 2010
    I better do my pre-order soon before they run out. I will be getting The Who and Steely Dan.
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  • DForeman
    DForeman Posts: 468
    edited April 2010
    Just ordered Who's Next.

    Thanks for the heads-up on these everyone.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,729
    edited April 2010
    For anyone that's on the fence, according to CDJapan a lot of these are selling out fast. For example, on their site there are only 3 The Allman Brothers Band/At Fillmore East left to pre-order.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

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  • comfortablycurt
    comfortablycurt Posts: 6,745
    edited April 2010
    How'd I miss this thread?

    Steely Dan Aja on SACD? Hell yes!! I'll be sure to pick this one up sometime.
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  • comfortablycurt
    comfortablycurt Posts: 6,745
    edited April 2010
    Keiko wrote: »

    PLaSMa CeNTeR!


    I'm hoping that I can afford to buy a CD without needing to take a trip to the
    PLaSMa CeNTeR!    ...lol

    Who knows though, it may be necessary.;) Even if it's not...I just love having my blood taken. I've sold my plasma 47 times this week alone, in 6 different states and with 22 different identities.:p

    This is starting to turn into a full time job. Last I heard, if you need blood at a hospital, there's about a 70% chance that it's coming from me. I'm the nations primary supplier of medical blood now...I'm monopolizing!!!
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,729
    edited April 2010
    comfortablycurt wrote: »
    How'd I miss this thread?

    Steely Dan Aja on SACD? Hell yes!! I'll be sure to pick this one up sometime.

    These are very limited releases. If you don't get one now, chances are you never will or at least not without forking over a lot more than they are going for now. Hence, my previous post.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

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