Universal Music Japan's possible return to single-layer SACD (with Steely Dan's Aja)

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  • decal
    decal Posts: 3,205
    edited July 2010
    This recording is something special.I was really apprehensive about spending $60.00+ on a CD but after listening to it(twice in a row)I'm glad I did.What really stands out for me are the precussion instruments,they sound very real on this disc.All the songs sound great especially track 6 "I Got The News".This disc is worth every penny I paid for it.
    If you can't hear a difference, don't waste your money.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,731
    edited July 2010
    F1nut wrote: »
    I've been going back and forth between the new SACD-SHM and the original SACD of Layla for awhile now and it's kind of driving me crazy. To keep my sanity, I quit listening for the night. That said, right now I think they are so close that if you have the original there's no point, sonics wise, in buying the new one.

    I have to update my comments above.

    After a good nights sleep and a different method of comparison I have come to the conclusion that even though they share the same 2004 master, the SACD-SHM is the better of the two. I could hear further into the music, it's smoother and the bass is cleaner. The original SACD almost sounds rough in comparison.

    I'm sold on these SACD-SHM's and just ordered 3 more, 461 Ocean Blvd., Fillmore and Let It Bleed.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

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  • Danny Tse
    Danny Tse Posts: 5,206
    edited July 2010
    It's here!!

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    (the faint vertical line comes from my HP scanner....it's not on the packaging)

    Haven't had a chance to listen to it. I'm really impressed by the packaging though. Looks like the SACD was pressed by Japan Sony.
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  • vc69
    vc69 Posts: 2,500
    edited July 2010
    Got mine yesterday. Listening tonite. BTW Danny, I went ahead and ordered my Dire Straits copy. I sure am happy you keep us up on all this stuff!
    -Kevin
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  • Danny Tse
    Danny Tse Posts: 5,206
    edited July 2010
    vc69 wrote: »
    BTW Danny, I went ahead and ordered my Dire Straits copy. I sure am happy you keep us up on all this stuff!

    Sorry to your wallet :D
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited July 2010
    F1nut wrote: »
    I have to update my comments above.

    After a good nights sleep and a different method of comparison I have come to the conclusion that even though they share the same 2004 master, the SACD-SHM is the better of the two. I could hear further into the music, it's smoother and the bass is cleaner. The original SACD almost sounds rough in comparison.

    I'm sold on these SACD-SHM's and just ordered 3 more, 461 Ocean Blvd., Fillmore and Let It Bleed.

    Good news bad news type of thing for me!:mad: I have Layla, 461 Ocean Blvd but not the other two . . . let the jonesing begin.:(:rolleyes:
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  • Danny Tse
    Danny Tse Posts: 5,206
    edited July 2010
    The upcoming 3rd and 4th batches of SHM-SACD have yet to be announced, any titles on your wish list?
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited July 2010
    Keiko wrote: »
    I want Dire Straits and Black Sabbath, Gus. I'm Jonesin' too, bro. :(

    Hey Mike, the CD of Black Sabbath "Paranoid" that I received from yourmusic.com a couple of years back sounds spectacular in every way! If that ever came out on SACD . . . WOW!!!!!
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,731
    edited July 2010
    Traffic, Tull, Little Feat, early Fleetwood Mac and the rest of Steely Dan to name few.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited July 2010
    F1nut wrote: »
    Traffic, Tull, Little Feat, early Fleetwood Mac and the rest of Steely Dan to name few.

    Now you're talking!

    Well at least I can live vicariously through you guys!;):(
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  • Bubinga99
    Bubinga99 Posts: 283
    edited July 2010
    hearingimpared wrote: »
    Hey Mike, the CD of Black Sabbath "Paranoid" that I received from yourmusic.com a couple of years back sounds spectacular in every way! If that ever came out on SACD . . . WOW!!!!!

    You mean like this:
    http://www.importcds.com/Music/1540454/Black-Sabbath-Paranoid-Deluxe-Edition-SACD

    ?
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,731
    edited July 2010
    Bubinga99 wrote: »
    You mean like this:
    http://www.importcds.com/Music/1540454/Black-Sabbath-Paranoid-Deluxe-Edition-SACD

    ?

    That SACD never made it to production.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

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  • Bubinga99
    Bubinga99 Posts: 283
    edited July 2010
    Oops! Sorry guys. I was just browsing the SACD category at that site and happened across that Sabbath listing. I remembered it was mentioned here so thought I'd post it. My bad.
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited July 2010
    Bubinga99 wrote: »
    You mean like this:
    http://www.importcds.com/Music/1540454/Black-Sabbath-Paranoid-Deluxe-Edition-SACD

    ?
    Keiko wrote: »
    I think that description is in error. I'd double check that before pulling the trigger. See amazon reviews.

    http://www.amazon.com/Paranoid-CD-DVD-Black-Sabbath/dp/B001D2AYCI/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top
    F1nut wrote: »
    That SACD never made it to production.
    Bubinga99 wrote: »
    Oops! Sorry guys. I was just browsing the SACD category at that site and happened across that Sabbath listing. I remembered it was mentioned here so thought I'd post it. My bad.

    Wow Bubinga, I was going to blast you for teasing me!!! But I see the jones is for naught! :):(

    Still the CD I have is going to be hard to beat!;)
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,731
    edited July 2010
    How did you do that? I thought SACD's architecture prevented any type of copying.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,731
    edited July 2010
    I received Let It Bleed, Fillmore East and 461 Ocean Blvd. today, they did not disappoint. I'm not sure how, but even the original SACD master of Let It Bleed is improved on the SACD-SHM. On track 5, Let It Bleed, at 35 seconds on the SACD-SHM version I could clearly hear the sound of something falling over, possibly a mike stand. I never heard this on the original SACD. Hmmm...I went back and played the original SACD and it is there, but it's very hard to make out and actually sounds like a glitch in the recording. The clarity on these SACD-SHM's is nothing short of amazing.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

    President of Club Polk

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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited July 2010
    Thanks Mike! Some time soon, I hope to make the journey to Jesse's house as it's been quite awhile since I've been there and am lusting to hear the improvements he's made to his rig and to hear these SHMs on that magnificent kw SACD player.
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  • vc69
    vc69 Posts: 2,500
    edited July 2010
    F1nut wrote: »
    I received Let It Bleed, Fillmore East and 461 Ocean Blvd. today, they did not disappoint. I'm not sure how, but even the original SACD master of Let It Bleed is improved on the SACD-SHM. On track 5, Let It Bleed, at 35 seconds on the SACD-SHM version I could clearly hear the sound of something falling over, possibly a mike stand. I never heard this on the original SACD. Hmmm...I went back and played the original SACD and it is there, but it's very hard to make out and actually sounds like a glitch in the recording. The clarity on these SACD-SHM's is nothing short of amazing.

    Very interesting Jesse. I can't wait to get my ears on some more of these.
    I wish I could pony-up for all of them at once. I'm hoping I can still get LIB in August.
    -Kevin
    HT: Philips 52PFL7432D 52" LCD 1080p / Onkyo TX-SR 606 / Oppo BDP-83 SE / Comcast cable. (all HDMI)B&W 801 - Front, Polk CS350 LS - Center, Polk LS90 - Rear
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  • Danny Tse
    Danny Tse Posts: 5,206
    edited July 2010
    F1nut wrote: »
    I'm not sure how, but even the original SACD master of Let It Bleed is improved on the SACD-SHM. On track 5, Let It Bleed, at 35 seconds on the SACD-SHM version I could clearly hear the sound of something falling over, possibly a mike stand. I never heard this on the original SACD. Hmmm...I went back and played the original SACD and it is there, but it's very hard to make out and actually sounds like a glitch in the recording. The clarity on these SACD-SHM's is nothing short of amazing.

    That's very interesting indeed.
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  • Danny Tse
    Danny Tse Posts: 5,206
    edited August 2010
    Unconfirmed for release on SHM-SACD in October 2010....

    Wheels Of Fire - Cream
    John Mayall & The Bluesbreakers With Eric Clapton
    In The Land of Grey and Pink - Caravan
    Argus - Wishbone Ash
    Outlandos D`amour - The Police
    Asia - Asia
    Beggars Banquet - Rolling Stones
    Gaucho - Steely Dan
    Long Live Rock 'n Roll - Rainbow
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,731
    edited August 2010
    I see my next order.....

    Wheels Of Fire - Cream
    John Mayall & The Bluesbreakers With Eric Clapton
    Argus - Wishbone Ash
    Beggars Banquet - Rolling Stones
    Gaucho - Steely Dan
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

    President of Club Polk

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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited August 2010
    F1nut wrote: »
    I see my next order.....

    Wheels Of Fire - Cream
    John Mayall & The Bluesbreakers With Eric Clapton
    Argus - Wishbone Ash
    Beggars Banquet - Rolling Stones
    Gaucho - Steely Dan

    Great choices but what just knocked me out of my chair was seeing, "Wishbone Ash!" I haven't seen or thought about them in many moons.
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  • Danny Tse
    Danny Tse Posts: 5,206
    edited August 2010
    hearingimpared wrote: »
    Great choices but what just knocked me out of my chair was seeing, "Wishbone Ash!" I haven't seen or thought about them in many moons.

    They had a previous SACD release, domestically. It was available at Best Buy for something like $14.00.
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  • Danny Tse
    Danny Tse Posts: 5,206
    edited August 2010
    My SHM-SACD of "Who's Next" has been shipped by Japan HMV.

    Order placed for the upcoming SHM-SACD of Dire Straits's debut, Blind Faith, and the hybrid SHM-SACD sampler.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,731
    edited August 2010
    Danny, Dire Straits and Blind Faith are shipping now. I got the shipping notice for them and Who's Next today. I can't wait. :)
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

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  • DAGLJAM6
    DAGLJAM6 Posts: 635
    edited August 2010
    Who's Next shipped yesterday for me as well, hoping this is "as good as it gets" if so may have to delve into more of the releases coming up......
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  • vc69
    vc69 Posts: 2,500
    edited August 2010
    Dangitt! No word from CDbanq yet.
    -Kevin
    HT: Philips 52PFL7432D 52" LCD 1080p / Onkyo TX-SR 606 / Oppo BDP-83 SE / Comcast cable. (all HDMI)B&W 801 - Front, Polk CS350 LS - Center, Polk LS90 - Rear
    2 Channel:
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  • Erik Tracy
    Erik Tracy Posts: 4,673
    edited August 2010
    vc69 wrote: »
    Dangitt! No word from CDbanq yet.

    Same here. I played patient and let my combined order of Aja and Whos Next stay until both shipped. No word yet.

    Grrrr...

    H9: If you don't trust what you are hearing, then maybe you need to be less invested in a hobby which all the pleasure comes from listening to music.
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  • vc69
    vc69 Posts: 2,500
    edited August 2010
    I got my copy of Aja from them. It will not disappoint when it arrives Erik.
    -Kevin
    HT: Philips 52PFL7432D 52" LCD 1080p / Onkyo TX-SR 606 / Oppo BDP-83 SE / Comcast cable. (all HDMI)B&W 801 - Front, Polk CS350 LS - Center, Polk LS90 - Rear
    2 Channel:
    Oppo BDP-83 SE
    Squeezebox Touch
    Muscial Fidelity M1 DAC
    VTL 2.5
    McIntosh 2205 (refurbed)
    B&W 801's
    Transparent IC's
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  • Danny Tse
    Danny Tse Posts: 5,206
    edited August 2010
    F1nut wrote: »
    Danny, Dire Straits and Blind Faith are shipping now. I got the shipping notice for them and Who's Next today. I can't wait. :)

    Oh no, my pre-order of the SHM-SACD hybrid sampler is holding up the rest of my order until October.
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