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  • jdjohn
    jdjohn Posts: 3,447
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    Toolfan66 wrote: »
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    To keep the dust out of unused plugs.

    Hilarious!
    Why exactly is that so assuming?

    Amusing??

    Yes, amusing...sorry. But I still don't see the humor - it's clearly badgering, and trying to make at least three forum members look foolish for even buying the product.
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  • mantis
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    F1nut wrote: »
    The Puritan 156. Lots of ferrite core filters. Clean layout. What's up with those weird socket covers?

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    I would assume they use those covers to lower EMI interference. Or just to keep dust out.
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  • mantis
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    I use Surge X in a lot of my jobs and they make exceptional products. Furman is also very good but they still use MOV technology.

    Dan
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  • F1nut
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    Hmmm...no covers and the receptacles are not on a strange angle.
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    So, it appears Puritan is an English company, which may explain, in part, the reason for the covers. They have a paranoia about people sticking stuff where it doesn't belong. For example, they are the reason a lot of speakers come with their binding post banana holes plugged with plastic caps.

    Another possibility is the covers are an attempt to keep out EMI/RFI, although it seems not all of their products have the covers, which sort of shoots down that theory.

    It also appears all of their units come with 20 amp IEC sockets, but are restricted to a 15 amp maximum load, which is a bit odd.


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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 52,406
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    Mystery solved. After a bit of digging those outlets are British waterproof panel or wall box mount outlets. Perhaps they got a good buy on them?

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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 52,406
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    That they’re installed upside down is still … amusing, I suppose.

    Good eyes...I didn't notice that.
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  • audioluvr
    audioluvr Posts: 6,079
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    When blood splatters on the wall it runs down and grounds out before hitting the +
    Gustard X26 Pro DAC
    Belles 21A Pre Upgraded with Mundorf Supremes
    B&K M200 Sonata monoblocks refreshed and upgraded
    Polk SDA 1C's modded / 1000Va Dreadnaught
    Wireworld Silver Eclipse IC's and speaker cables
    Harman Kardon T65C w/Grado Gold. (Don't laugh. It sounds great!)

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  • EndersShadow
    EndersShadow Posts: 17,761
    edited October 2025
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    Also following as while I have a Furman AC-215A on my modest 2 channel setup (and a whole home protector at the junction box), I’d like to ensure my Pathos (and wiim) stay safe.

    And while I’d love to run a dedicated line as it shares a wall with my garage, that’s just not gonna happen unless @lightman decides to make a house call out here again and then I’d also have maxed out my box with 4 dedicated lines to my audio stuff lol…

    So for now it shares a line with other devices which includes a light/fan combo I believe and a coupe small floor lights.
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  • GlennDog
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    The power here has always been consistent with few fluctuations. It’s only a recent electric supplier monopoly issue, where power is lost for no apparent reason like on a clear blue day… It’s unbelievable.

    This won’t help the lack of power but if you have power fluctuations, I’ve been very pleased with my PS audio P 10 regenerator …..it’s an older model that maybe close to 10 years old. I bought for $2800 and MSRP was 5K.
    Something to consider if you’re not getting a pure sine wave
    AC Regenerator PS Audio PerfectWave Power Plant 10
    Source Lumin U1 Mini into Lampizator Baltic 4 DAC
    Pre Cary SLP-05
    Power Rogue M180 Dark monos
    Mains Salk HT2-TL
    Rythmik F12
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  • Dr_Wu
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    Love my P10 regen. Think there's one on usaudiomart right now for 2k (no affiliation, just happened to see it).
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 26,160
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    Thank you guys for the input. I am looking into a pair of them now and hope to make a decision soon. I have narrowed it down to these...

    https://shunyata.com/product/denali-6000s-v2/

    https://www.psaudio.com/products/directstream-power-plant-15/
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2800 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon MiND2 Shunyata Triton/Typhon Rotel RP9400 Turntable

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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 26,160
    edited October 2025
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    Has anyone ever heard of this one? Comes from Japan but I find zero information on it. There is one on Ebay, listed in Japan for 17K! :o

    https://www.audiogon.com/listings/lisbg703-acrolink-6n-nct15a-15-amp-new-issolation-transformer-ac-conditioners?utm_campaign=website&utm_medium=email&utm_source=sendgrid

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    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2800 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon MiND2 Shunyata Triton/Typhon Rotel RP9400 Turntable

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  • treitz3
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    Zero information and yet, someone is already putting it up for sale? That raises a flag for me. YMMV.

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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 26,160
    edited October 2025
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    treitz3 wrote: »
    Zero information and yet, someone is already putting it up for sale? That raises a flag for me. YMMV.

    Tom
    Even a search on HiFi Shark yields no results for the power conditioners. Hundreds of cables however.

    Apparently, they have deep ties to Esoteric/TEAC. They also produce a wide range of cables and such. The Audiogon seller is someone I have known and done business with in the past. This thing looks to be in the same league as Esoteric in terms of build quality.

    If he is willing to let me give it a demo run in my rig, I might give it a go and see how it shakes out.
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2800 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon MiND2 Shunyata Triton/Typhon Rotel RP9400 Turntable

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  • treitz3
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    A demo run in your own system would be worth it. Otherwise? A hard pass IMO only.

    Tom
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 52,406
    edited October 2025
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    Doing a search for Acrolink isolation transformer, which is what it is, turns up all kinds of info including their website.

    I've dealt with Weinhart, standup dude, but I'd pass on the Arcolink due to the voltage situation.



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  • nooshinjohn
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    According to the seller, this is a US spec unit... just really confused by what this does vs some others. I was able to find a 1 paragraph review snippet that gave it very high praise.
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2800 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon MiND2 Shunyata Triton/Typhon Rotel RP9400 Turntable

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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 52,406
    edited October 2025
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    An isolation transformer has two sets of windings, so there is no direct electrical connection between the input and output. The SDA Dreadnought is an isolation transformer, but with a different purpose than the Arcolink.

    You can search isolation transformer to read about the advantages and disadvantages.

    The bottom line, it's sort of a power conditioner and sort of a surge protector, but only sort of.
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  • GlennDog
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    PS Audio just offered “up to 60% off” factory refreshed Power Plant 12s, 15 & 20. In black & silver


    https://www.psaudio.com/products/powerplant-12-refurbished?variant=48716376965410&_kx=tRsihn-DIBYHsqJYvOM_9laTSZhz3d9XpkJXjdwc9YS3xq-loMdi-JcWbhnKGVbK.VZfrTD

    AC Regenerator PS Audio PerfectWave Power Plant 10
    Source Lumin U1 Mini into Lampizator Baltic 4 DAC
    Pre Cary SLP-05
    Power Rogue M180 Dark monos
    Mains Salk HT2-TL
    Rythmik F12
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  • Dr_Wu
    Dr_Wu Posts: 356
    edited November 2025
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    Apologies, it's a Shunyata Denali on audiophilestyles
    No affiliation
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  • skipshot12
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    WOW... $4,000 for a P15 and $5,000 for a P20, with warranty, are great prices.
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  • GlennDog
    GlennDog Posts: 3,158
    edited November 2025
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    PowerPlant 15 in silver & PP20 in black is still available as of 4:50pm Nov 5
    AC Regenerator PS Audio PerfectWave Power Plant 10
    Source Lumin U1 Mini into Lampizator Baltic 4 DAC
    Pre Cary SLP-05
    Power Rogue M180 Dark monos
    Mains Salk HT2-TL
    Rythmik F12
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  • skipshot12
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    Our PS Audio P1000 PowerPlant was $3500 in the early 2000's, in comparison the prices of the P15 & P20 are bargains.
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  • antoniokjl
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    I’ve been experimenting with power solutions for a while, and honestly a good voltage regulator / conditioner can make a noticeable difference, especially with tube amps and sensitive sources like your Moon 680D.

    If you’re looking at Shunyata, you’re already in the right zone — their Hydra and Denali lines are solid. They don’t choke dynamics like some cheaper conditioners, and noise reduction is great. Another brand worth considering is PS Audio (since you’re already using their AC5 cables). Their Power Plant regenerators aren’t cheap, but they actually rebuild the AC waveform, so they provide very stable power under load. For big amps like your Carver monoblocks, it’s one of the best options.

    If you want something more budget-friendly, Furman Elite or Reference series are also reliable. They’re not as “audiophile-marketed” as Shunyata, but they offer excellent surge protection and voltage regulation without killing dynamics.

    With your system, I’d put the monoblocks and the C2800 on the best regulator you can afford, and the AVR + sources on a secondary conditioner. The TV doesn’t need anything fancy.

    TL;DR:
    – Top pick: PS Audio Power Plant (best stability + performance)
    – Great option: Shunyata Denali
    – Value option: Furman Elite/Reference

    Power is definitely the most overlooked part of a setup — upgrading it was one of the biggest “quiet improvements” I ever made.
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  • skipshot12
    skipshot12 Posts: 2,164
    edited November 2025
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    The regeneration isolates all noise from the wall outlet.

    Neat thing about the older PS Audio PowerPlants are the ability to exeperiment with the output frequencies.
    Folks with tube gear really like that ability.

    Plus, they have just filtered outlets for amps that don’t restrict current.
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  • treitz3
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    skipshot12 wrote: »
    The regeneration isolates all noise from the wall outlet.

    With all due respect, I will beg to differ with you on this one. That's marketing BS. Even PS Audio has stated this. Even with galvanic isolation, some noise still gets through. Don't get me wrong, both help but both still allow noise to get through.

    Tom
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  • jdjohn
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    pitdogg2 wrote: »
    treitz3 wrote: »
    skipshot12 wrote: »
    The regeneration isolates all noise from the wall outlet.

    With all due respect, I will beg to differ with you on this one. That's marketing BS. Even PS Audio has stated this. Even with galvanic isolation, some noise still gets through. Don't get me wrong, both help but both still allow noise to get through.

    Tom

    Agree Tom. I think the only way to remove all is maybe like the old Richard Gray power plants. They took AC converted it to DC before sending out as AC once all the garbage was removed. Something about the conversion removed or the DC was hostile to it. Above my head probably.
    Yep, those PS Audio regenerators just regenerate much of the noise in a nice sinusoidal wave.
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