Venting… is it too much to ask a manufacturer?
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WTF is this new angst about “humble bragging”?! 🤦♂️
It’s not hard to figure out what a doctor might make, and frankly, given what they have to pay for their education and how difficult their job can be, it’s not actually all that much and probably underpaid in some cases.
Is this some new form of cancel culture? 🤷♂️
Everyone makes choices in life. Nobody can afford everything. Some talk about their expensive speaker purchases. Some talk about expensive watches. Others mention how they “lost” $50,000 in a day in their portfolio (which makes it fairly obvious to within 5% what size their portfolio actually might be). And then there are those who “humble brag” about expensive(ish) car purchases.
Who da fook cares?! 🤔
At the end of the day, does it benefit the forum to see people mention their high end — or even ridiculous — purchases? Yes, it does. It creates excitement and interest in somewhat unattainable things that somebody has decided is important to them.
As for Verb, accusing him of humble bragging seems like a stretch. He has clearly worked very hard to get where he was before he retired. It’s not as if he was bragging about buying a yacht or a mansion somewhere.
Most of us discuss gear we’re lusting after or purchasing. the difference is, some people (ahem) always lead with the price tag, but most of us do not.
Case in point - in my thread (below) I mention the new surround receiver and in-ceiling speakers I’m going to purchase, but nowhere did I mention the price. Why? Because the price tag is NOT why I’m making the purchase! I’m making the purchase because it’s what I want - not because of how much it costs. That, and I’m not trying to impress anyone. If someone here wants to know what I’m going to spend, they can most certainly look it up - but I don’t feel the need to throw the price out there…
https://forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/199846/going-from-7-1-surround-to-9-1-help#latest
“Human beings are born with different capacities. If they are free, they are not equal. And if they are equal, they are not free.”
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Price and value are (EDIT can be) two very different things.
Look at the rate of depreciation for modern "high end" loudspeakers, e.g.
Then look at the price over time of, e.g., 2 inch JBL compression drivers, Altec multicell horns, or RCA electrodynamic drivers or LC-1A coaxes.
... and there's a reason besides what I like to call the cult of the arcane. The quality of the above-mentioned components (design, construction, and performance) are iconic.
Fast fashion doesn't just apply to clothing.
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In defense of @Joey_V, he made no mention of price in his original post. The price wasn't mentioned until later in someone else's post regarding his endeavor to purchase the unobtainable holy grail of headphones.Enjoying the journey while never attaining the destination.
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Just catching up on the thread. Sorry it didn't work out Joey.
Keep posting @Joey_V
I always enjoy them. I also enjoy Stereophile.
Living the dream!
Speakers: Polk Lsim, ATC SCM19 v2, NHT SuperzeroSpeaker Cables: DH Labs, Transparent, Wireworld, Canare, Monster: Beer budget, Bose ears -
So... way back in November of 2023, Joey posts this in a thread he started about the HE-1If you check the link, it says unavailable
Then he starts this thread to complain about not getting any love from the manufacturer for a product he already knew was discontinued... What am I missing here?The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2800 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD
“When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson
How many flies need to be buzzing a dead horse before you guys stop beating it? -
It sounded like sennheiser was trying to sell to him though- Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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nooshinjohn wrote: »So... way back in November of 2023, Joey posts this in a thread he started about the HE-1If you check the link, it says unavailable
Then he starts this thread to complain about not getting any love from the manufacturer for a product he already knew was discontinued... What am I missing here?
It wasn’t discontinued. It was not offered publicly anymore. Sennheiser told me they would sell it to me but to make me comfortable, they would answer any and all question. In an effort to justify an expensive purchase, I did my due diligence. That took approx 2 months because of very long pauses in responses and multiple excuses about being out of pocket. In the end, when I was ready to put the deposit, sennheiser sales director said “sorry, we are missing some parts - we cannot build you one.”Magico M2, JL113v2x2, EMM, ARC Ref 10 Line, ARC Ref 10 Phono, VPIx2, Lyra Etna, Airtight Opus1, Boulder, AQ Wel&Wild, SRA Scuttle Rack, BlueSound+LPS, Thorens 124DD+124SPU, Sennheiser, Metaxas R2R -
Can't this thread die? Joey has moved on...nothing more to see...
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It sounded like sennheiser was trying to sell to him though
Correct. When I scheduled the demo at canjam Dallas 2023, the online registration form asked
“Are you interested in buying?”
I said no. I am not spending that money on headphones.
Then I heard it and I said, ok now I understand.
Why they would ask for your interest in purchasing one upon signing up to demo? Beats me. They wouldn’t ask if it was truly not for sale.Magico M2, JL113v2x2, EMM, ARC Ref 10 Line, ARC Ref 10 Phono, VPIx2, Lyra Etna, Airtight Opus1, Boulder, AQ Wel&Wild, SRA Scuttle Rack, BlueSound+LPS, Thorens 124DD+124SPU, Sennheiser, Metaxas R2R -
In defense of @Joey_V, he made no mention of price in his original post. The price wasn't mentioned until later in someone else's post regarding his endeavor to purchase the unobtainable holy grail of headphones.Just catching up on the thread. Sorry it didn't work out Joey.
Keep posting @Joey_V
I always enjoy them. I also enjoy Stereophile.
Living the dream!
Thx
It’s all in good fun.
The enjoyment of the hobby, atleast until we lose our hearing or get too old for a stereo room.Magico M2, JL113v2x2, EMM, ARC Ref 10 Line, ARC Ref 10 Phono, VPIx2, Lyra Etna, Airtight Opus1, Boulder, AQ Wel&Wild, SRA Scuttle Rack, BlueSound+LPS, Thorens 124DD+124SPU, Sennheiser, Metaxas R2R -
WTF is this new angst about “humble bragging”?! 🤦♂️
It’s not hard to figure out what a doctor might make, and frankly, given what they have to pay for their education and how difficult their job can be, it’s not actually all that much and probably underpaid in some cases.
Is this some new form of cancel culture? 🤷♂️
Everyone makes choices in life. Nobody can afford everything. Some talk about their expensive speaker purchases. Some talk about expensive watches. Others mention how they “lost” $50,000 in a day in their portfolio (which makes it fairly obvious to within 5% what size their portfolio actually might be). And then there are those who “humble brag” about expensive(ish) car purchases.
Who da fook cares?! 🤔
At the end of the day, does it benefit the forum to see people mention their high end — or even ridiculous — purchases? Yes, it does. It creates excitement and interest in somewhat unattainable things that somebody has decided is important to them.
As for Verb, accusing him of humble bragging seems like a stretch. He has clearly worked very hard to get where he was before he retired. It’s not as if he was bragging about buying a yacht or a mansion somewhere.
Most of us discuss gear we’re lusting after or purchasing. the difference is, some people (ahem) always lead with the price tag, but most of us do not.
Case in point - in my thread (below) I mention the new surround receiver and in-ceiling speakers I’m going to purchase, but nowhere did I mention the price. Why? Because the price tag is NOT why I’m making the purchase! I’m making the purchase because it’s what I want - not because of how much it costs. That, and I’m not trying to impress anyone. If someone here wants to know what I’m going to spend, they can most certainly look it up - but I don’t feel the need to throw the price out there…
https://forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/199846/going-from-7-1-surround-to-9-1-help#latest
Price was not initially mentioned. Someone looked it up.
And it doesn’t matter what the price is. That’s my business. My post was to illuminate and discuss my journey towards what I thought (and still think) as my ultimate stereo experience.Magico M2, JL113v2x2, EMM, ARC Ref 10 Line, ARC Ref 10 Phono, VPIx2, Lyra Etna, Airtight Opus1, Boulder, AQ Wel&Wild, SRA Scuttle Rack, BlueSound+LPS, Thorens 124DD+124SPU, Sennheiser, Metaxas R2R -
Can't this thread die? Joey has moved on...nothing more to see...
We posted at about the same time.
Yeah, I thought the thread had died, but apparently it resurrected. It’s like salt on wounds.Magico M2, JL113v2x2, EMM, ARC Ref 10 Line, ARC Ref 10 Phono, VPIx2, Lyra Etna, Airtight Opus1, Boulder, AQ Wel&Wild, SRA Scuttle Rack, BlueSound+LPS, Thorens 124DD+124SPU, Sennheiser, Metaxas R2R -
Threads like this never truly die.
Just the random bot bump about Epson salt for wounds will keep this alive for decades- Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit. -
A mention of black paint should help find this little gem as well...The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2800 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD
“When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson
How many flies need to be buzzing a dead horse before you guys stop beating it? -
It sounded like sennheiser was trying to sell to him though
Correct. When I scheduled the demo at canjam Dallas 2023, the online registration form asked
“Are you interested in buying?”
I said no. I am not spending that money on headphones.
Then I heard it and I said, ok now I understand.
Why they would ask for your interest in purchasing one upon signing up to demo? Beats me. They wouldn’t ask if it was truly not for sale.
Honestly, I’d chalk this up to big corporate again. Someone who likely has very little experience with any of their products probably just plugged in an existing form from their CRM. Drop it on the site, route the responses to the appropriate sales rep, and on to the next micro site update.Analog: Hana ML > MoFi UltraDeck > Bob's Devices Sky 20-S > Sutherland 20/20 w/LPS
Digital: Cambridge CXC / Streaming > Cambridge CXN v2
MastersounD Dueventi > Rosso Fiorentino Certaldo or Hifiman EF600 > Hifiman Arya Stealth
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I'm reminded of the insight peovided by the esteemed Chinese beaver.
This video was forwarded to me by a friend who knew I am very fluent in Mandarin
(what with my extensive diplomacy in Asian affairs)
and could easily provide an accurate translation .
More words of wisdom that may or may not apply in this thread, who am I to say ?
🤔
https://youtube.com/shorts/dWg3h5TgtVk?si=LQQEIwOCA_yPzkZu
Sal Palooza -
Next rant:
Define what “rich” even means. It means different things to different people.
If you fly to Vegas in your own jet and think loosing a hundred grand in an afternoon was fun.Gustard X26 Pro DAC
Belles 21A Pre modded with Mundorf Supreme caps
B&K M200 Sonata monoblocks refreshed and upgraded
Polk SDA 1C's modded / 1000Va Dreadnaught
Wireworld Silver Eclipse IC's and speaker cables
Harman Kardon T65C w/Grado Gold. (Don't laugh. It sounds great!)
There is about a 5% genetic difference between apes and men …but that difference is the difference between throwing your own poo when you are annoyed …and Einstein, Shakespeare and Miss January. by Dr. Sardonicus -
Or if you own your single wide trailer free and clear.Gustard X26 Pro DAC
Belles 21A Pre modded with Mundorf Supreme caps
B&K M200 Sonata monoblocks refreshed and upgraded
Polk SDA 1C's modded / 1000Va Dreadnaught
Wireworld Silver Eclipse IC's and speaker cables
Harman Kardon T65C w/Grado Gold. (Don't laugh. It sounds great!)
There is about a 5% genetic difference between apes and men …but that difference is the difference between throwing your own poo when you are annoyed …and Einstein, Shakespeare and Miss January. by Dr. Sardonicus -
mrbigbluelight wrote: »I'm reminded of the insight....
More words of wisdom that may or may not apply in this thread, who am I to say ?
🤔
https://youtube.com/shorts/dWg3h5TgtVk?si=LQQEIwOCA_yPzkZu
Hahaha. Funny stuff.
