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  • msg
    msg Posts: 10,650
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    From this photo? Side note, does anyone ever have trouble with these tubes? What do you replace them with?
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  • Clipdat
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    You don't!
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  • Emlyn
    Emlyn Posts: 4,919
    edited March 2022
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    I think the 5703 tubes are still available from a few sources. They’re not expensive from what I remember last time I looked for a pair of them.

    They're supposed to last for thousands of hours the way MF uses them. I've heard claims of 10,000 or more hours. They're usually soldered in place on the leads as the photo above shows.
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  • VR3
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    Those tubes will outlast us brother
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  • F1nut
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    I've replaced them. Kind of a pain, but doable. The leads are soldered in place and the rubber grommets have a thin piece of wire holding them down, which is also soldered in place. The stock tubes are good, but there's a premium version, which is better.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 52,406
    edited March 2022
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    Emlyn wrote: »
    Might just be the lighting, and may be nothing at all, but one of those 5703 tubes in the photos (second tube from the left) looks like it's browned inside. It's also got a fair amount of dust inside the case and the external scratches to me indicate that whoever owned it previously didn't take excellent care of it.

    Agreed, that one tube does not look the same and the rubber grommets are very different. Someone has changed that tube.
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  • txcoastal1
    txcoastal1 Posts: 13,520
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    I'm so confused...
    How do you turn jack off, or would that be jack on?
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  • F1nut
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    A tidbit of info. The 5703 was designed for use in US missile guidance systems and are guaranteed to survive a nuclear blast.
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  • treitz3
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    But....can it survive the UPS gorillas? Inquiring minds want to know...

    Tom
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    Slim Pickens
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  • maxward
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    “Shoot, a fella could have a pretty good weekend in Vegas with all this stuff.”
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  • erniejade
    erniejade Posts: 6,327
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    I'm out. After what Jess told me and I am reading in here, its a hard pass for me even if they emailed back and accepted my offer. I will stick with the T+A until another one of them comes along.
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  • BlueBirdMusic
    BlueBirdMusic Posts: 3,137
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    @erniejade, in the short term you could settle for a MF A3.2 Integrated. One is listed on US Audio Mart. It seems a little overpriced but everything has gone up. It has two remotes which to me might mean the volume button doesn't work on the regular remote. Original packaging. It says Mint and is pickup in NJ.

    I have one of these in my bedroom, and I will never get rid of it. Mine has upgraded Cardas speaker terminals.

    https://www.usaudiomart.com/details/649823877-musical-fidelity-a32-integrated-amplifier/images/3683939/
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  • tonyb
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    Just curious, how does the sound of the 3.2 stack up against other CR MF products ?
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  • erniejade
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    BlueBirdMusic wrote: »
    @erniejade, in the short term you could settle for a MF A3.2 Integrated. One is listed on US Audio Mart. It seems a little overpriced but everything has gone up. It has two remotes which to me might mean the volume button doesn't work on the regular remote. Original packaging. It says Mint and is pickup in NJ.

    I have one of these in my bedroom, and I will never get rid of it. Mine has upgraded Cardas speaker terminals.

    https://www.usaudiomart.com/details/649823877-musical-fidelity-a32-integrated-amplifier/images/3683939/

    I saw that and a A308, Musical Fidelity A1008. The 1008 really caught my eye and I think Troy has one but, I think I want to hold out for a Tri-Vista.
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  • TroyD
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    Not for nothing but the A1008 is a beast. It is supposed to be sonically indistinguishable from the KW500. I don’t know that to be true but I’ve heard the KW and it’s definitely cut from the same cloth.

    The Tri Vista, IMO has a bit more shine in the upper mids/low treble than the KW but I heartily recommend the A1008 as a destination piece..
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  • BlueBirdMusic
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    @Tonyb, Jesse is the best one to answer your questions. I read many posts by him regarding Musical Fidelity over the years including quite a few A3.2 comments. I would say he is responsible for my having the A3.2 and an A5 which I think of as mine ( ;) ) although it stays at my woman's house.

    I like both. I happened to discover the A3.2 first and purchased it. Then I purchased the A5 from the same man two weeks later. He sold those two units because he had a new in-the-box A3.2. He still has it. He and I became friends; MF owners are good people.

    I think the A3.2 is built and looks better, but the A5 has more power (250 watts vs 115 watts at 8 ohms). The sound is similar but the greater power can be sensed in the A5. Some people say the A5 has more of a "tube sound".

    The A3.2 is a fully dual-mono integrated amplifier with separate transformer windings for the preamp stage and amplifier side. The A5 is a dual-mono design and has a single transformer winding for both preamp stage and amplifier side.

    The A3.2 is used with Polk SDA 2B's. The A5 is used with Paradigm Studio 60's. I probably should swap them since the Paradigms are easier to drive. Both make me happy.
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  • jdjohn
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    How do these older 'A' models compare to the newer Nu-Vista integrateds, or the M_xi/si integrateds?
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  • Clipdat
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    Completely different animals.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 29,756
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    New musical fidelity should be viewed as a completely different company compared to the older stuff
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  • jdjohn
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    Can you guys direct us to a reference article of old MF vs new MF? Is it a matter of old model 'A' vs new model 'M'...and Tri-Vista vs Nu-Vista? I have a Nu-Vista Phono Vinyl phonostage that I think is pretty darn good, but part of my infatuation is A) the various loading adjustments (on the front panel), and B) the balanced/XLR output option.
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  • VR3
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    Musical fidelity was purchased in 2018 so anything before that would be old. Anything after new
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  • Clipdat
    Clipdat Posts: 13,105
    edited March 2022
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    FFS, TMR updated the listing and incorrectly describe it as an additional pre-out:
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    Why are they so clueless? Two "techs" say it's a pre-out and another one correctly says it's an amp direct input, and then they update the listing with the wrong information.

    This does not reflect well on TMR's attention to detail. Laughable really.
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  • F1nut
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    Age unknown? It's right on the back panel.
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  • VR3
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    So what happens when you connect two inputs together? Does the universe explode?
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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 35,562
    edited March 2022
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    VR3 wrote: »
    So what happens when you connect two inputs together? Does the universe explode?

    It's like crossin' the streams, man...

    I'll tell you what, though -- it's better than hookin' two outputs together.
    Don't ask me how I know this.

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  • TroyD
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    It's like dividing by zero...
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  • BlueBirdMusic
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    VR3 wrote: »
    So what happens when you connect two inputs together? Does the universe explode?

    Maybe the answer is in the picture of the Pyramids and Speed of Light that @mhardy6647 posted in "Post a Picture".

    https://forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/comment/2676185#Comment_2676185
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  • audioluvr
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    I think it creates a black hole.
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