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  • motorhead43026
    motorhead43026 Posts: 3,998
    Ted Cruze quarantined himself after attending AIPAC meeting.
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  • BlueFox
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    daddyjt wrote: »
    BlueFox wrote: »
    nooshinjohn wrote: »
    So far it is likely more people have died while driving to the store to hoard toilet paper, rubbing alcohol and hand sanitizer than have died because of the virus. The media in this country has blood on their hands.

    Virus cases at 520 in 30 states in the US at 4:30 PM on Sunday. It seems to be accelerating each day. Should be in all 50 states by end of day tomorrow. At some point it will really take off.

    Pretty safe to say it was in all 50 states several days ago. Exponential progression should show (reported) cases in the millions within 7-10 days, if they test that many people.

    If it even does half that, or takes twice as long, then we will have a total economic collapse.
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  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,600
    edited March 2020
    I can tell you if one doc goes down, 1/6 of coverage goes down.

    If another goes down, we will be running at 1/3 deficit.

    If another then we will be at 50%.

    I can tell you if we start dropping, there’s no back up. The hospital will simply have to deal with a coverage black out.
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  • nooshinjohn
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    BlueFox wrote: »

    If it even does half that, or takes twice as long, then we will have a total economic collapse.

    The only way to win is to completely destroy everything and blame the guy at the top while everybody suffers in the fallout.
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  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,600
    edited March 2020
    Basically to put things into perspective.
    For our single hospital, there are 6 docs in my specialty.
    So with 1 or 2 docs down, that's a brutal scheduling hole.

    Now, let's talk about let's say a neurointerventionalist (stroke interventionalist). I have 1 contact for every 3 hospitals.

    So if he goes down.... well, you know what that means. You better not have a stroke for the remainder of the quarantine period.
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  • tonyb
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    Kex wrote: »
    Gardenstater wrote: »
    Italy may have a not so good healthcare system. Even South Korea only has a 0.7% death rate so far and they have pretty much the same number of cases.
    That’s a rather arbitrary statement, but proves your point earlier about lies and statistics (statistics don’t lie, but one can interpret them differently according to the point that one wishes to make).

    In fact, Italians enjoy universal healthcare, and their healthcare system is regarded by the World Health Organization as the second best in the world after France. Italy has the world's sixth highest life expectancy

    You should talk to some Italians. Second best in the world ? Laughable. Same with Canadians, talk to those who actually have to use the system for serious issues. I have family in Italy, friends in Canada.....they come here to get serious stuff taken care of.
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  • BlueFox
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    I haven’t been to the gym since the end of October, due to various medical issues. Now I feel pretty good and want to start working out, but am hesitant since various people will be sweating on the gear. Maybe I will just use the treadmill.
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  • motorhead43026
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    ^^ yeah, I go to the gym twice a week to continue my cardio rehab., may need to rethink this
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  • motorhead43026
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    nooshinjohn wrote: »
    BlueFox wrote: »

    If it even does half that, or takes twice as long, then we will have a total economic collapse.

    The only way to win is to completely destroy everything and blame the guy at the top while everybody suffers in the fallout.

    Yep, when you take all the credit when times are good, you get all the credit when times are bad. But the guy at the top just might get his chance to start with nothing like 2009. I just hope the helicopter money gets dropped on the peasents in the form of infrastructure work and repairs and the like. Rather than the banks and financial institutions. Give proplegood jobs building our 8nfrssrurture
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  • tonyb
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    What's the death toll here now....12 ?

    Jerry Dahmer ate more people than that.

    Just sayin'.....
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  • pitdogg2
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    tonyb wrote: »
    What's the death toll here now....12 ?

    Jeffery Dahmer ate more people than that.

    Just sayin'.....

    Fixed it

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  • motorhead43026
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    motorhead43026 wrote: »
    nooshinjohn wrote: »
    BlueFox wrote: »

    If it even does half that, or takes twice as long, then we will have a total economic collapse.

    The only way to win is to completely destroy everything and blame the guy at the top while everybody suffers in the fallout.

    Yep, when you take all the credit when times are good, you get all the credit when times are bad. But the guy at the top just might get his chance to start with nothing like 2009. I just hope the helicopter money gets dropped on the peasents in the form of infrastructure work and repairs and the like. Rather than the banks and financial institutions. Give prople good jobs building our infrastruture and watch it trickle up rather than not down.
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  • nooshinjohn
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    And as long as the media and certain government officials keep hyping this up as a a mass extinction level event, they will get exactly what they want, a cratered economy they can blame on 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, and 9 months of being able to point the blame.

    Then as soon as the dust of November settles, everything will be magically all better.

    This would be laughable if it wasn't so transparent that only the blind can't see it.
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  • audioluvr
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    My investments are down 6%! If it hits 10% I'm buying a ton of stock! Gotta love Chaos!
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  • tonyb
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    Kex wrote: »
    tonyb wrote: »
    What's the death toll here now....12 ?

    Jerry Dahmer ate more people than that.

    Just sayin'.....
    It’s nice that you can laugh about, but actually, it’s 21, and climbing daily.

    That number does not include all deaths, since many have not been tested, even if COVID-19 was the suspected cause of death.

    The final number will almost certainly be far less than influenza, traffic accidents, or gun violence, but that’s not the point. None of the latter will keep anyone from buying stuff, going to Starbucks or the restaurant, or traveling. None of the latter will cause a drop in GDP. This has the potential to bring back memories of the Great Recession, and that will impact everyone.

    Greed is more powerful than a virus, commerce will continue to happen virus or no virus. People die every day from various sources, and so far this thing doesn't hold a candle to any of them.

    Gdp....stocks, all temporary set backs. Everything is temporary. You could live your life in fear of a meteor hitting us and punching everyone's ticket, or live in fear the super volcano under Yellowstone will explode, or the big one to hit the west coast, a scary virus that might wipe out half the world's population.....supposedly depending on who you listen to.

    Become a prepper, stock up and find a cave to move into before the zombie apocalypse. Meanwhile, the rest of us will continue to live our lives as best and as full as we always have. Send a postcard every so often so we know you preppers are ok. 🙂
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  • Jstas
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    la2vegas wrote: »
    Oil down 30%!

    Great, that means that in California regular unleaded will drop by 5 cents, at or around $3.50 a gallon. :#

    SWEET!

    Can't wait to fill up on $2.00 a gallon 93+ for my supercharged pickup truck!

    Might have to get a buttload of jerry cans and stock pile a bit!
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  • motorhead43026
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    edited March 2020
    Whew, looks like I was posting after taking my Ambien last night.
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  • Polkitup2
    Polkitup2 Posts: 1,640
    edited March 2020
    Global markets plunging pre-market. Now down almost 1300 points. We could be in store for another record breaking DOW loss today. Might be time to crack open the treasure chest and buy some more stocks on the cheap. Also looks like trading was briefly halted on the S&P last night due to the drop in price. Will be interesting to see where we open and how low it might go.
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  • motorhead43026
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    edited March 2020
    Yep, the PPT " plunge protection team" stepped in.
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  • BlueBirdMusic
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    I'm one of the older guys on this blog and in the second category on the chart of people most likely to get the virus. I try to read stories that keep me informed. I don't mind all of the funny comments, cartoons, etc. In fact, I believe humor is one of the best remedies for concern.

    The story below seems to be one of the better descriptions of how the virus kills. Some of you may read the story; otherwise, continue on.


    There Is a ‘Tipping Point’ Before Coronavirus Kills

    https://www.bloombergquint.com/politics/coronavirus-nears-fatal-tipping-point-when-lungs-are-inflamed

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  • motorhead43026
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    I fall into the higher risk category myself.

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  • Gardenstater
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    22 dead in US. Stock market halted limit down. CRAZY
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  • GlennDog
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    Gardenstater wrote: »
    22 dead in US. Stock market halted limit down. CRAZY

    Wow ... has that ever happened b4?
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  • Gardenstater
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    Not sure. Maybe last time Oct 27, 1997.....asian financial crisis
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  • dromunds
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    Take a deep breath fellas. Fear is the mind killer
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  • BlueFox
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    Haven’t been able to make up my mind if we are nearing the peak worldwide, or if we are just getting started. Seems like we are in the just getting started stage. Stock market sure is down. Glad I got mostly out before this started.
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  • motorhead43026
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    Gardenstater wrote: »
    Not sure. Maybe last time Oct 27, 1997.....asian financial crisis

    The 2008 financial crisis.
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    dromunds wrote: »
    Take a deep breath fellas. Fear is the mind killer

    Not worried about the mind. It's the rest of me falling apart
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  • Gardenstater
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    motorhead43026 wrote: »
    Gardenstater wrote: »
    Not sure. Maybe last time Oct 27, 1997.....asian financial crisis

    The 2008 financial crisis.

    Nope. Didn't happen then:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trading_curb
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  • nooshinjohn
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    motorhead43026 wrote: »
    dromunds wrote: »
    Take a deep breath fellas. Fear is the mind killer

    Not worried about the mind. It's the rest of me falling apart

    When they begin the overture, they start to end the show...

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