Axpona 2019 Schaumburg IL

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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 27,257
    vinyl's doin' OK...

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    ... at least it was this past Saturday...
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  • marvda1
    marvda1 Posts: 4,308
    one of my best rooms of the show.
    Amplifiers: Norma IPA 140, MasterSound Compact 845, Ayre v6xe, Consonance Cyber 800
    Preamp: deHavilland Ultraverve 3
    Transport/Dac: L.K.S MH-DA004, Cayin Venus cd-100i, Musical Paradise mp-d2 mkI,
    Musical Paradise mp-d2 mkIII
    Speakers: Rosso Fiorentino Volterra II
    Speaker Cables: Organic Audio Organic Reference 2
    Cerious Technologies Graphene Extreme
    Interconnects: Argento Organic Reference 2, Argento Organic 2, Gabriel Gold Reckoning
    Power Cables by: Argento Organic Reference, Cullen Cables, 6sons Audio, Swiss Cables
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  • joecoulson
    joecoulson Posts: 4,944
    I know right Marv! That was the one room I went in and said “well they are gonna suck” and they sure didn’t. They were on point!
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  • marvda1
    marvda1 Posts: 4,308
    $97k :#
    Amplifiers: Norma IPA 140, MasterSound Compact 845, Ayre v6xe, Consonance Cyber 800
    Preamp: deHavilland Ultraverve 3
    Transport/Dac: L.K.S MH-DA004, Cayin Venus cd-100i, Musical Paradise mp-d2 mkI,
    Musical Paradise mp-d2 mkIII
    Speakers: Rosso Fiorentino Volterra II
    Speaker Cables: Organic Audio Organic Reference 2
    Cerious Technologies Graphene Extreme
    Interconnects: Argento Organic Reference 2, Argento Organic 2, Gabriel Gold Reckoning
    Power Cables by: Argento Organic Reference, Cullen Cables, 6sons Audio, Swiss Cables
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  • erniejade
    erniejade Posts: 5,551
    marvda1 wrote: »
    this is something worth taking out a 401k loan, i should know.

    Yep.

    And yes borrowed from another thread.
    Den: Lumin D1,Wireworld Silver Eclipse RCA, KEF LS50 Wireless, Velodyne SPL1200, Technics 1200, Denon DL160, Jolida D9,

    Living Room:,T+A PA 1530R,Wireworld Silver Eclipse SC, Tyler Highland H2, High Fidelity Reveal RCA, Innuos Zen MK3 , W4S recovery, LKS MH-da004,

    Have but haven't used in a while: LH Labs VI Dac, Cayin SCD50T, Grant Fidelity Tube Dac11,Aries Mini
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  • Tony M
    Tony M Posts: 9,641
    And they utilize GRANITE bases. ;)B)
    Most people just listen to music and watch movies. I EXPERIENCE them.
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 22,894
    edited April 2019
    Tony M wrote: »
    And they utilize GRANITE bases. ;)B)

    So much wasted potential there... should have used something like balsa wood to cut down on resonance... :p;)
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    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, TriangleArt Reference SE with Pass Labs Xono Phono Preamp, Walker Precision Motor Drive, ClearAudio Goldfinger Statement V2 cartridge and Origin Conqueror Mk3c tonearm, Polk Audio "Signature" Reference Series 1.2TL with complete mods, Pass Labs X0.2 three chassis preamp, PS Audio PerfectWave DAC MkII, Pioneer Elite SC-LX701, Oppo UDP-205 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds.

    “Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book has been rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered…History has stopped. Nothing exists except the endless present in which the party is always right” — George Orwell

    “If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.”
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  • kharp1
    kharp1 Posts: 3,459
    nooshinjohn wrote: »
    Tony M wrote: »
    And they utilize GRANITE bases. ;)B)

    So much wasted potential there... should have used something like balsa wood to cut down on resonance...

    You can't help but be a p r ick can you.
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 22,894
    edited April 2019
    Who is the one resorting to calling people names... Pot, meet kettle.

    Perhaps you should try cultivating a sense of humor.
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, TriangleArt Reference SE with Pass Labs Xono Phono Preamp, Walker Precision Motor Drive, ClearAudio Goldfinger Statement V2 cartridge and Origin Conqueror Mk3c tonearm, Polk Audio "Signature" Reference Series 1.2TL with complete mods, Pass Labs X0.2 three chassis preamp, PS Audio PerfectWave DAC MkII, Pioneer Elite SC-LX701, Oppo UDP-205 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds.

    “Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book has been rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered…History has stopped. Nothing exists except the endless present in which the party is always right” — George Orwell

    “If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.”
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  • Tony M
    Tony M Posts: 9,641
    edited April 2019
    I researched the website and I was puzzled about those tubes. I was expecting some ports in the back or bottoms. I didn't see any. Carbon fiber tubes...NICE!

    I remember when Kicker made those GREAT tube speakers 35 years ago and I think they still do along with Dewalt and others.

    I guess there are ports AROUND each woofers' rims. Their picture looking down at them looks like they point into the tube. I don't see any vents or ports in the close-up pic I just found. See below.

    I didn't read the websites' literature fully yet. Maybe in a minute I'll go back and see if there are vents/ports around the woofers.

    I love radical designed tweeters and midranges. I've owned the ESS's Heils for 30 years now. :)

    I thought the speakers were HUGE...but I see their size in this picture.
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    Most people just listen to music and watch movies. I EXPERIENCE them.
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  • joecoulson
    joecoulson Posts: 4,944
    Brian and I agreed that the best bang for the buck there were the Kilpsch we heard on floor 14 fantastic sound for the coin. $4k a pair I believe right Brian?
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  • Clipdat
    Clipdat Posts: 9,538
    Tony, the model at the show were the larger ones. The one in that photo are the smaller model.

    I spoke to them for a while and they informed me there was a port at the rear.
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  • joecoulson
    joecoulson Posts: 4,944
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    My guess was 6ft tall
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  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 18,405
    edited April 2019
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  • Clipdat
    Clipdat Posts: 9,538
    edited April 2019
    The gentleman I spoke with said one of the reasons the highs sounded so good on their speakers, was because their high frequency drivers had no "breakup modes".
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  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 18,405
    Tony M wrote: »
    I researched the website and I was puzzled about those tubes. I was expecting some ports in the back or bottoms. I didn't see any. Carbon fiber tubes...NICE!

    I remember when Kicker made those GREAT tube speakers 35 years ago and I think they still do along with Dewalt and others.

    I guess there are ports AROUND each woofers' rims. Their picture looking down at them looks like they point into the tube. I don't see any vents or ports in the close-up pic I just found. See below.

    I didn't read the websites' literature fully yet. Maybe in a minute I'll go back and see if there are vents/ports around the woofers.

    I love radical designed tweeters and midranges. I've owned the ESS's Heils for 30 years now. :)

    I thought the speakers were HUGE...but I see their size in this picture.
    1wiimtopsfcl.png

    The pair at the show were MUCH MUCH larger than those.
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  • joecoulson
    joecoulson Posts: 4,944
    Agreed Skip. My first reaction, though the performance didn’t match this, was not pleasing at all. Almost gimmicky
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 22,894
    DSkip wrote: »
    I’m not sure I could ever own them based on design alone. I don’t find them offensive but I don’t like looking at them.

    I don't like the look so much either, but if form and function make them superior to others at their price-point, I would not dismiss them either.
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, TriangleArt Reference SE with Pass Labs Xono Phono Preamp, Walker Precision Motor Drive, ClearAudio Goldfinger Statement V2 cartridge and Origin Conqueror Mk3c tonearm, Polk Audio "Signature" Reference Series 1.2TL with complete mods, Pass Labs X0.2 three chassis preamp, PS Audio PerfectWave DAC MkII, Pioneer Elite SC-LX701, Oppo UDP-205 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds.

    “Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book has been rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered…History has stopped. Nothing exists except the endless present in which the party is always right” — George Orwell

    “If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.”
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  • joecoulson
    joecoulson Posts: 4,944
    The Klipsch I was referring to:

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  • Clipdat
    Clipdat Posts: 9,538
    DSkip wrote: »
    I’m not sure I could ever own them based on design alone. I don’t find them offensive but I don’t like looking at them.

    I love the design and the fact that they are made out of carbon fiber.
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  • displayname
    displayname Posts: 946
    joecoulson wrote: »
    The Klipsch I was referring to:

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    Forte III seem to get a lot of praise. I haven't had a chance to hear them anywhere yet though.
    Analog: MoFi MasterTracker > MoFi UltraDeck > Sutherland 20/20
    Digital: Cambridge CXC / Streaming > Cambridge CXN v2
    MastersounD Dueventi > Rosso Fiorentino Certaldo or Arcam rHead > Hifiman HE4XX
    Discogs
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  • Clipdat
    Clipdat Posts: 9,538
    DSkip wrote: »
    They look like earrings to me.

    Ironic, considering they probably have the least WAF out of any speaker at the show.

    Another thing that was somewhat disappointing is that they were playing a very short/strict set of songs, probably 12 or 15 total, and were not taking requests.
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  • erniejade
    erniejade Posts: 5,551
    joecoulson wrote: »
    Brian and I agreed that the best bang for the buck there were the Kilpsch we heard on floor 14 fantastic sound for the coin. $4k a pair I believe right Brian?

    I was very suprised on how well they did in those rooms. They sounded nothing like i remember. Warm, clean, powerful with a great soundstage. I Googled them and they do have some great reviews. I have only heard version 1 of them. New 4k is correct. I found some open box models for $1300 each on my search.

    Den: Lumin D1,Wireworld Silver Eclipse RCA, KEF LS50 Wireless, Velodyne SPL1200, Technics 1200, Denon DL160, Jolida D9,

    Living Room:,T+A PA 1530R,Wireworld Silver Eclipse SC, Tyler Highland H2, High Fidelity Reveal RCA, Innuos Zen MK3 , W4S recovery, LKS MH-da004,

    Have but haven't used in a while: LH Labs VI Dac, Cayin SCD50T, Grant Fidelity Tube Dac11,Aries Mini
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  • Clipdat
    Clipdat Posts: 9,538
    Brian, I really wanted to like the KLH speakers, but I just didnt care for the tweeter.

    Maybe they would sound different in my own room. They did do some things very well, namely coherence. I will follow up with the gentleman who was running the room, as he suggested sending me a pair to review.
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  • erniejade
    erniejade Posts: 5,551
    Agreed Drew. They did mid and low end good for a 1300 set of speakers but the top end got a bit harsh especially when pushed a bit.
    Den: Lumin D1,Wireworld Silver Eclipse RCA, KEF LS50 Wireless, Velodyne SPL1200, Technics 1200, Denon DL160, Jolida D9,

    Living Room:,T+A PA 1530R,Wireworld Silver Eclipse SC, Tyler Highland H2, High Fidelity Reveal RCA, Innuos Zen MK3 , W4S recovery, LKS MH-da004,

    Have but haven't used in a while: LH Labs VI Dac, Cayin SCD50T, Grant Fidelity Tube Dac11,Aries Mini
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  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 18,405
    edited April 2019
    erniejade wrote: »
    Agreed Drew. They did mid and low end good for a 1300 set of speakers but the top end got a bit harsh especially when pushed a bit.

    Well they were only getting 2 amps of current with those el34 tubes at all of what 20 watts... I asked that is what i was doing standing in the corner with the guy in the red shirt if you remember Brian. I had him cornerd and grillin him :smile:
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  • Clipdat
    Clipdat Posts: 9,538
    Good point Ivan. Also the digital source was a Dragonfly DAC. Not exactly the best.

    It's certainly possible they would be a completely different listen with some other gear behind them.
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  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 18,405
    They were built like a brick out house and I've heard a lot worse at that price point and above. Would I buy them not likely but yes i was impressed a bit.
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  • kharp1
    kharp1 Posts: 3,459
    nooshinjohn wrote: »
    Who is the one resorting to calling people names... Pot, meet kettle.

    Perhaps you should try cultivating a sense of humor.

    You are a pric k. I have no problem calling you out as one. When you run your mouth like you do I'm going to call you out for what you are. If that makes me one as well than I'm cool with that. I've never had anyone on here calling me out like this. You earned it, own it.
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