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F1nut
F1nut Posts: 49,794
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A new email promo from Polk suggests going to Crutchfield, CNET and Audioholics for tips, no mention of Club Polk. A very sad state of affairs, especially suggesting Audioholics. The home of the naysayers is the last place I would recommend to anyone.

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Political Correctness'.........defined

"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

President of Club Polk

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  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 24,559
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    The beginning of the end...
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 18,316
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    Brilliant marketing. NOT.

    This is what most people would consider an epic FAIL.

    Tom
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
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  • NotaSuv
    NotaSuv Posts: 3,815
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    sad to see no faith in your own boards.....not a great way to build a brand or attract new customers...these boards are a WEALTH of knowledge and it would be sad to see it go.............
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  • cfrizz
    cfrizz Posts: 13,415
    edited May 2017
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    I can understand why they did it. We are more of a "What speakers, gear should I get?" Rather than a "How do I set up my gear kind of a board."

    Instead of answering that question, we would be telling them they need to upgrade their receiver so that it has outputs so that they can get an amp, then they need..... :D

    So instead of getting set up info, they are being told to spend a few hundred more on other gear! ROTFLOL!

    There is something to be said about actually getting answers to the question you asked rather than expensive answers to questions you hadn't even thought of.
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  • Malbec
    Malbec Posts: 548
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    I am curious to know THE person/people who is/are responsible for this omission. Ever since the change to vanilla, it seems like the forum is a PITA to those in charge.
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,094
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    Total and complete marketing fail IMHO...
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD

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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,031
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    It doesn't seem to augur well for... umm... this forum, does it?
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  • Dabutcher
    Dabutcher Posts: 2,591
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    Right on Jesse. Got the same email. Maybe those four sellers paid Polk a pretty Penney for the links to their businesses? Peace. D
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  • rpf65
    rpf65 Posts: 2,127
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    Could be the last cable debate scared vanilla, and they edited out the Polk Forum.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 49,794
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    cfrizz wrote: »
    I can understand why they did it. We are more of a "What speakers, gear should I get?" Rather than a "How do I set up my gear kind of a board."

    Instead of answering that question, we would be telling them they need to upgrade their receiver so that it has outputs so that they can get an amp, then they need..... :D

    So instead of getting set up info, they are being told to spend a few hundred more on other gear! ROTFLOL!

    There is something to be said about actually getting answers to the question you asked rather than expensive answers to questions you hadn't even thought of.

    You're so negative.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

    President of Club Polk

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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 18,316
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    Regardless, there is ZERO excuse for not including this Forum. As a business and if I were in charge? The person who made this decision would either be gone or demoted.

    This is business common sense 101.

    Tom
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
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  • Mikey081057
    Mikey081057 Posts: 7,127
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    You never want to tell your customers to go somewhere else. Somebody needs to be FIRED
    My New Year's resolution is 3840 × 2160

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    ManCave: HT:Polk LSiM 706VR3 LSiM 703's LSiM 702's|| Marantz AV7002 AV PrePro Sunfire TGA-7401| Sony PS4 Pro| Sony PS4 Pro|SVS PB13 Ultra| Oppo UDP 203 | Music Hall MMF 5.3se TT w/ Soundsmith Carmen | Samsung 55" SUHD TV | Sony PS4

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  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 24,559
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    Really can't argue this^^^^^^ don't mean i have to like it.
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  • mdaudioguy
    mdaudioguy Posts: 5,165
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    If I was a Polk exec, I don't know if I'd push potential customers to this forum to promote sales. Heck, most of the advice is to buy used. That, and they have little control over however us goofballs decide to respond. Yes, there's a wealth of information for owners here, but they chose 2 sites with "professional" reviewers, and probably the classiest online seller of all.
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  • afterburnt
    afterburnt Posts: 7,892
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    Crutchfield don't have me...
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  • Gatecrasher
    Gatecrasher Posts: 1,550
    edited May 2017
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    I'm disappointed in Polk too.

    I'd much rather be verbally-assaulted and told that my system is junk by F1 on this forum than have it all candy-coated by some stranger on any of those other inferior places.

    lol
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 49,794
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    Gatecrasher wrote: »
    I'm disappointed in Polk too.

    I'd much rather be verbally-assaulted and told that my system is junk by F1 on this forum than have it all candy-coated by some stranger on any of those other inferior places.

    lol

    Trolling again.......weren't you warned about that?
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

    President of Club Polk

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  • Willow
    Willow Posts: 10,871
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    Step 4 don't leave your guitar against the speaker like we did. Sure it looks cool and you'll look hip but it will vibrate when playing your favourite movies. But it looks cool.

    Back to the op, I agree.
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,906
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    Audioholics ?? WTF are they thinking ? Betcha they are going to have fun over there seeing Polk recommending them and not their own forum.

    This is very telling on many fronts.

    Polk has no will to support their own forum.
    Polk is more interested in portable audio than good audio
    Polk would rather cater to the snot nosed kids/millennials living in their parents basement.

    When in reality, this forum has been the front runner in support of Polk products over the decades. We do however hold their feet to the fire when they come out with crappy products, which they probably don't like. We have also been the top seller of Polks excellent customer service, something that is rare in todays world.

    Talk about putting a knife in your back....really Polk ? This is more so a lesson in how to lose your support base 101, which apparently someone down there at HQ passed that class with flying colors.
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  • polrbehr
    polrbehr Posts: 2,826
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    Maybe it's time to make audiomilitia my homepage again...
    So, are you willing to put forth a little effort or are you happy sitting in your skeptical poo pile?


    http://audiomilitia.proboards.com/
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  • [Deleted User]
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    pitdogg2 wrote: »
    The beginning of the end...
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JSUIQgEVDM4
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  • stones89
    stones89 Posts: 229
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    Really sad, no support for the Polk family. So many brands build a bond with their consumers and create ambassadors to lead, support and spread the word. I am new here and get that feeling from this forum. Keeping people in the franchise is a smart way to build new business.

    As an example, Maker’s Mark Bourbon has more than 100,000 ambassadors as part of the MM family and they are empowered. About 4 years ago MM tried to lower the proof from 90 to 84 to stretch the juice since they could not keep up with demand. Claimed the flavor profile was the same. Within hours of the first bottle hitting the trade all h**l broke lose from that very support team and the company immediately publicly apologized for their mistake and went back to the original proof.

    Brilliant marketing and fairly simple. Do not bite the hand that feeds.....Polk. Not very forward thinking IMO.
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  • Mike Reeter
    Mike Reeter Posts: 4,314
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    tonyb wrote: »
    Audioholics ?? WTF are they thinking ? Betcha they are going to have fun over there seeing Polk recommending them and not their own forum.

    This is very telling on many fronts.

    Polk has no will to support their own forum.
    Polk is more interested in portable audio than good audio
    Polk would rather cater to the snot nosed kids/millennials living in their parents basement.

    When in reality, this forum has been the front runner in support of Polk products over the decades. We do however hold their feet to the fire when they come out with crappy products, which they probably don't like. We have also been the top seller of Polks excellent customer service, something that is rare in todays world.

    Talk about putting a knife in your back....really Polk ? This is more so a lesson in how to lose your support base 101, which apparently someone down there at HQ passed that class with flying colors.

    Although I never visit Audioholics, my guess is that Polk advertises on their site, and others.

    Polk gets a kickback from these sites for mentioning them in a email/advertisement.

    There is no monetary gain in mentioning this Forum.
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  • Manticore
    Manticore Posts: 408
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    DonnerUndBlitzen wrote: »
    There is no snub towards anyone or group in this very brief overview about how to get a home theater up and going.

    It would be helpful if Polk's website had a guide and recommendations for different home theater speaker packages. Many people call Crutchfield and get advice on what AV receiver to match with their speakers.

    I've read many reviews by Crutchfield customers thanking them for their advice and recommendations. Crutchfield has a loyal customer base because of their customer service and recommendations. This differs from Amazon.com. I can call Crutchfield for advice, but not Amazon. Crutchfield also has competitive prices.

    Must admit I have been a Crutchfield fan since the days of their selling computers. Previously I have referred to Chrutchfield's web for info and comparisons of different equipment. It has its uses and they do stand behind what they sell.

    I have found this forum to be invaluable when it comes to... well... just about everything Hi Fi. Thanks guys.

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  • mrbiron
    mrbiron Posts: 5,711
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    Ken Swag-monster is the only purveyor of Polk who attends this forum...
    Last i knew, Polk was a rather large company. You'd think they'd have more presence on a forum that they pay for.

    I bet Forum.polkaudio.com is blocked by their system administrator... :D
    Where’s the KABOOM?!?! There’s supposed to be an Earth shattering KABOOM!!!
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