Group Buy '16: Dreadnought Avel Lindberg 1000VA Isolation Transformers

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  • msg
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    SketchyCraig. One of my favorite dudes.
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  • Goat
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    edited January 2017
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    Hi all, just joined and am researching all of this. I have wanted a pair of polk SDA's for a long time. I had a pair of monitor 12's many years ago and regret selling them. I just landed a pair of 2.3tl's and my amp is mono design so to use it I would need to buy or build one of these. Is there a chance to get in on this yet? Now I am running a pair of carver amazing originals that the ribbons are just about done for on so it was time to find another speaker I always wanted to have but never could afford at the time.
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  • vcwatkins
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    Hi, @Goat. Congrats on the 2.3tl's and welcome to the forum.

    You can still join the group buy. I will send you information. As long as payment and shipping info is received by the time all the current members pay, you'll be in. To give you an idea on timing, we are 75% paid up after two days. Look for a PM from me today.

    Thanks,
    Craig
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  • lightman1
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    SketchyCraig is the man!
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  • nikonik
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    $ent :)
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  • gmcman
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    Funds sent. Thanks again for setting this up.
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  • Goat
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    Funds sent. Thanks for adding me in!
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  • vcwatkins
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    Great job on settling up, guys! 85% home.
    Beach Audio: Rega RP6 (mods) - AT33PTG/II - Parks Budgie SUT - PSAudio NPC * Eversolo DMP-A6 * Topping D90iii * Joule-Electra LA-100 mkIII * Pass Aleph 30 * MIT S3 * Polk SRS 2.3tl (mods) * PSAudio PPP3
    Beach Study: Pro-Ject Stream Box S2 Ultra & Pre Box S2 * Pass ACA * DH Labs SS Q10 * Brines Folded ML-TQWT RS 40-1354 * PSA Dectet
    Beach Master: WiiM Pro * Dayens Menuetto * Zu Libtec * Dynaudio Audience 50
    Beach Den: Bluesound Powernode 2i * DH Labs SS Q10 * Zu Omen DWII * Richard Gray RGPC
    Town Study: WiiM Pro * Chord Qute (Pardo) * Elekit TU-8600 * MIT S3 * Revel M22 * Beyer DT-990 * Shunyata Hydra 2
    Town Den: Music Hall mm5.1se - Denon DL-103r - Jolida JD9ii (mods) * WiiM Pro * Cary xCiter * Rogue 99 Magnum * Schiit Aegir * MIT S3 * Polk SRS 1.2tl (mods) * Dectet * Bottlehead Crack - Senn 600
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  • gmcman
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    Toolfan66 wrote: »
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    Nice!
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  • heiney9
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    Sweet, but can we get some info about how the cases are prepped? I am not using Neutrik, but standard speaker terminals. Are the cases pre-drilled? If so, what pre-drilled options do we have?

    Thanks
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | Galion TS P75 Pre | Holo Audio Cyan 2 Dac | MIT Shotgun S1 | Puritan Audio PSM136 Pwr Condtioner & Classic PC's | Legend L600 | Roon Nucleus 1 w/LPS - Tubes add soul!
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  • nspindel
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    So Larry what about the idea of a badge??? Someone around here's gotta be a decent graphics guy, do up some sort of Dread logo and somehow get it on the front face?
    Good music, a good source, and good power can make SDA's sing. Tubes make them dance.
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  • BlueBirdMusic
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    I would like to have Larry's old "Eyeball" profile pic as a badge perhaps with the word "Dreadnought" to the right of it.
    "Sometimes you have to look to the past to understand where you are going in the future"
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  • nspindel
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    I was thinking something a little more Rasta mon.
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  • BlueBirdMusic
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    I don't know what that means mon? Examples?
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  • nspindel
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    Never been to Jamaica eh?
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  • nspindel
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    I'm thinking about a smiling Jamaican dude with huge dreads and a pair of speakers. And then the word Dreadnought spelled out underneath.
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  • BlueBirdMusic
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    That sounds like a unique one.
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,709
    edited January 2017
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    Toolfan66 wrote: »
    heiney9 wrote: »
    Sweet, but can we get some info about how the cases are prepped? I am not using Neutrik, but standard speaker terminals. Are the cases pre-drilled? If so, what pre-drilled options do we have?

    Thanks

    I will post more later, I can just send you blank panels, and you can mod to your liking..

    Since I wasn't paying that much attention to the first couple rounds, I wasn't sure how they were manufactured. I'd prefer to have them done. I don't have the tools or work bench necessary to do it easily or neatly....lol. I don't even know how they are assembled.

    Mine was more or less an inquiry as to how or what options were available.

    H9

    I also don't have the tranny to see the orientation of the wires, etc.

    P.s. If we are going to discuss the cases later-on that's fine.

    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | Galion TS P75 Pre | Holo Audio Cyan 2 Dac | MIT Shotgun S1 | Puritan Audio PSM136 Pwr Condtioner & Classic PC's | Legend L600 | Roon Nucleus 1 w/LPS - Tubes add soul!
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  • vcwatkins
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    Great job on settling up, guys!. Just 3 to settle up and we're home.
    Beach Audio: Rega RP6 (mods) - AT33PTG/II - Parks Budgie SUT - PSAudio NPC * Eversolo DMP-A6 * Topping D90iii * Joule-Electra LA-100 mkIII * Pass Aleph 30 * MIT S3 * Polk SRS 2.3tl (mods) * PSAudio PPP3
    Beach Study: Pro-Ject Stream Box S2 Ultra & Pre Box S2 * Pass ACA * DH Labs SS Q10 * Brines Folded ML-TQWT RS 40-1354 * PSA Dectet
    Beach Master: WiiM Pro * Dayens Menuetto * Zu Libtec * Dynaudio Audience 50
    Beach Den: Bluesound Powernode 2i * DH Labs SS Q10 * Zu Omen DWII * Richard Gray RGPC
    Town Study: WiiM Pro * Chord Qute (Pardo) * Elekit TU-8600 * MIT S3 * Revel M22 * Beyer DT-990 * Shunyata Hydra 2
    Town Den: Music Hall mm5.1se - Denon DL-103r - Jolida JD9ii (mods) * WiiM Pro * Cary xCiter * Rogue 99 Magnum * Schiit Aegir * MIT S3 * Polk SRS 1.2tl (mods) * Dectet * Bottlehead Crack - Senn 600
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  • vcwatkins
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    2 more to go!
    Beach Audio: Rega RP6 (mods) - AT33PTG/II - Parks Budgie SUT - PSAudio NPC * Eversolo DMP-A6 * Topping D90iii * Joule-Electra LA-100 mkIII * Pass Aleph 30 * MIT S3 * Polk SRS 2.3tl (mods) * PSAudio PPP3
    Beach Study: Pro-Ject Stream Box S2 Ultra & Pre Box S2 * Pass ACA * DH Labs SS Q10 * Brines Folded ML-TQWT RS 40-1354 * PSA Dectet
    Beach Master: WiiM Pro * Dayens Menuetto * Zu Libtec * Dynaudio Audience 50
    Beach Den: Bluesound Powernode 2i * DH Labs SS Q10 * Zu Omen DWII * Richard Gray RGPC
    Town Study: WiiM Pro * Chord Qute (Pardo) * Elekit TU-8600 * MIT S3 * Revel M22 * Beyer DT-990 * Shunyata Hydra 2
    Town Den: Music Hall mm5.1se - Denon DL-103r - Jolida JD9ii (mods) * WiiM Pro * Cary xCiter * Rogue 99 Magnum * Schiit Aegir * MIT S3 * Polk SRS 1.2tl (mods) * Dectet * Bottlehead Crack - Senn 600
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  • heiney9
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    I agree, very impressed this is going so smoothly. Not that it wouldn't, but usually when collecting funds there are a few hiccups, delays, discrepancies, etc.

    If Avel Lindberg turns these out quickly we'll be up and running in no time.

    H9

    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | Galion TS P75 Pre | Holo Audio Cyan 2 Dac | MIT Shotgun S1 | Puritan Audio PSM136 Pwr Condtioner & Classic PC's | Legend L600 | Roon Nucleus 1 w/LPS - Tubes add soul!
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  • F1nut
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    Quit being a pain Brock, use the Neutrik connectors.
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  • heiney9
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    I am not modding everything just for the Neutrik's. I didn't know that was how the cases were all manufactured. But then there isn't a thread for the cases yet to see how those are constructed.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | Galion TS P75 Pre | Holo Audio Cyan 2 Dac | MIT Shotgun S1 | Puritan Audio PSM136 Pwr Condtioner & Classic PC's | Legend L600 | Roon Nucleus 1 w/LPS - Tubes add soul!
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  • heiney9
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    edited January 2017
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    My space is very limited and I may end up placing the case vertically, that's why I will need to know at some point how the cases are made, dimensions and what options we have for connection.
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | Galion TS P75 Pre | Holo Audio Cyan 2 Dac | MIT Shotgun S1 | Puritan Audio PSM136 Pwr Condtioner & Classic PC's | Legend L600 | Roon Nucleus 1 w/LPS - Tubes add soul!
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  • vcwatkins
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    The case I got from Larry in '12 was drilled for binding posts. Not sure if the '14 crew got all Neutrik, all binding posts, or a mix? Think it was a mixture, but not sure.
    Beach Audio: Rega RP6 (mods) - AT33PTG/II - Parks Budgie SUT - PSAudio NPC * Eversolo DMP-A6 * Topping D90iii * Joule-Electra LA-100 mkIII * Pass Aleph 30 * MIT S3 * Polk SRS 2.3tl (mods) * PSAudio PPP3
    Beach Study: Pro-Ject Stream Box S2 Ultra & Pre Box S2 * Pass ACA * DH Labs SS Q10 * Brines Folded ML-TQWT RS 40-1354 * PSA Dectet
    Beach Master: WiiM Pro * Dayens Menuetto * Zu Libtec * Dynaudio Audience 50
    Beach Den: Bluesound Powernode 2i * DH Labs SS Q10 * Zu Omen DWII * Richard Gray RGPC
    Town Study: WiiM Pro * Chord Qute (Pardo) * Elekit TU-8600 * MIT S3 * Revel M22 * Beyer DT-990 * Shunyata Hydra 2
    Town Den: Music Hall mm5.1se - Denon DL-103r - Jolida JD9ii (mods) * WiiM Pro * Cary xCiter * Rogue 99 Magnum * Schiit Aegir * MIT S3 * Polk SRS 1.2tl (mods) * Dectet * Bottlehead Crack - Senn 600
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  • F1nut
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    The case should be vertical as it sounds better that way. In regards to the orientation it matters not which connection type is used.
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  • vcwatkins
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    heiney9 wrote: »
    My space is very limited and I may end up placing the case vertically, that's why I will need to know at some point how the cases are made, dimensions and what options we have for connection.

    I have mine sitting vertically on what would ordinarily be the face plate with binding posts on the top plate that would ordinarily be the rear. Pretty sure F1's Neutriks are on opposing ends to be used vertically (or horizontally too I suppose).
    Beach Audio: Rega RP6 (mods) - AT33PTG/II - Parks Budgie SUT - PSAudio NPC * Eversolo DMP-A6 * Topping D90iii * Joule-Electra LA-100 mkIII * Pass Aleph 30 * MIT S3 * Polk SRS 2.3tl (mods) * PSAudio PPP3
    Beach Study: Pro-Ject Stream Box S2 Ultra & Pre Box S2 * Pass ACA * DH Labs SS Q10 * Brines Folded ML-TQWT RS 40-1354 * PSA Dectet
    Beach Master: WiiM Pro * Dayens Menuetto * Zu Libtec * Dynaudio Audience 50
    Beach Den: Bluesound Powernode 2i * DH Labs SS Q10 * Zu Omen DWII * Richard Gray RGPC
    Town Study: WiiM Pro * Chord Qute (Pardo) * Elekit TU-8600 * MIT S3 * Revel M22 * Beyer DT-990 * Shunyata Hydra 2
    Town Den: Music Hall mm5.1se - Denon DL-103r - Jolida JD9ii (mods) * WiiM Pro * Cary xCiter * Rogue 99 Magnum * Schiit Aegir * MIT S3 * Polk SRS 1.2tl (mods) * Dectet * Bottlehead Crack - Senn 600
    Town Porch: WiiM Pro Plus * Sunfire Sig II * Canare 4S11 * Magnepan 1.6 * Dectet
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  • heiney9
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    I am not modding my SDA terminal cups to accept Neutriks. Ideally I'd like to set it up like your Craig, except have the binding posts mounted on each side, but I'm not sure of the orientation of the wiring for the transformer. That's the cleanest and best way for wire management. Having all MIT stuff really takes up real estate behind my low boy shelf.

    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | Galion TS P75 Pre | Holo Audio Cyan 2 Dac | MIT Shotgun S1 | Puritan Audio PSM136 Pwr Condtioner & Classic PC's | Legend L600 | Roon Nucleus 1 w/LPS - Tubes add soul!
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  • vcwatkins
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    edited January 2017
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    The leads are long enough and case large enough to run to either same side or opposing sides (adjacent corners). Someone correct me if I'm wrong. but I think Larry's cases have been either Neutrik on opposing sides or BP's on same side. If so, maybe Larry could offer opposing side BP holes.

    You could easily mix the terminations - I've got Neutrik at speakers and BP's at Dreadnought. You could do the reverse/

    F1's Neutrik:
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    DK's BP:
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    Beach Audio: Rega RP6 (mods) - AT33PTG/II - Parks Budgie SUT - PSAudio NPC * Eversolo DMP-A6 * Topping D90iii * Joule-Electra LA-100 mkIII * Pass Aleph 30 * MIT S3 * Polk SRS 2.3tl (mods) * PSAudio PPP3
    Beach Study: Pro-Ject Stream Box S2 Ultra & Pre Box S2 * Pass ACA * DH Labs SS Q10 * Brines Folded ML-TQWT RS 40-1354 * PSA Dectet
    Beach Master: WiiM Pro * Dayens Menuetto * Zu Libtec * Dynaudio Audience 50
    Beach Den: Bluesound Powernode 2i * DH Labs SS Q10 * Zu Omen DWII * Richard Gray RGPC
    Town Study: WiiM Pro * Chord Qute (Pardo) * Elekit TU-8600 * MIT S3 * Revel M22 * Beyer DT-990 * Shunyata Hydra 2
    Town Den: Music Hall mm5.1se - Denon DL-103r - Jolida JD9ii (mods) * WiiM Pro * Cary xCiter * Rogue 99 Magnum * Schiit Aegir * MIT S3 * Polk SRS 1.2tl (mods) * Dectet * Bottlehead Crack - Senn 600
    Town Porch: WiiM Pro Plus * Sunfire Sig II * Canare 4S11 * Magnepan 1.6 * Dectet
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  • F1nut
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    edited January 2017
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    All connected with MIT cable, piece of cake.
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