This joint needs some more vintage hifi

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  • boston1450
    boston1450 Posts: 7,758
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    Randy-Maine
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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 34,916
    2252's lookin' good (and gotta love that imaginative power switch)!

    I wouldn't mind picking up a 2270 someday -- doubtful that I'll feel like paying market price for one, though...
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  • soundfreak1
    soundfreak1 Posts: 3,414
    Those marantz are bringing or at least asking 500 to 900.00 for those amps in my area. Too much other choise's in those price ranges.
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  • boston1450
    boston1450 Posts: 7,758
    Like that switch LOL. For 6.00 i couldnt pass it up & heck i kinda like that switch :)
    Randy-Maine
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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 34,916
    edited March 2016
    ... nor would I (pass it up). Heck, it could look like the fish carcass in "The Old Man and the Sea" and I'd probably have bought it for six bucks :- )

    Now, just to interject something from the Granite State ;- )

    Since our builder (still) hasn't picked up the Mirage L-750s I recently refoamed for him :-P
    I decided on Thursday night to hook 'em up to my EICO ST-70 amplifier (modified to fix the known design glitches and rehabbed by Gary Kaufman for me a couple of years back).

    Sounds good.

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  • pumpkinman
    pumpkinman Posts: 10,190
    How do you like them ?? What vintage are they ?? 70's 80's ??
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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 34,916
    They sound good -- I shoulda played 'em for you!
    They must be from the early '80s; I'd never seen a pair before these... but they're well regarded (even today), at least in Canada.
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  • boston1450
    boston1450 Posts: 7,758
    Maybe he will forget about them :)
    Randy-Maine
    2ch-RTA15tl crossover upgrade
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  • lightman1
    lightman1 Posts: 10,796
    Gawd you suck Mark! Your house is an archive of wayback audio fun! I promise not to violate your yard if one day I could peruse the vaults.
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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 34,916
    c'mon by some time! Summer & fall R best!

    Those Mirages do sound better on little stands. I cobbled up a pair but they're a little metastable :-P I was doing multiple things when I hooked the EICO to the Mirages, so I left 'em on the floor so I didn't have to worry about an inopportune speaker faceplant (baffleplant?)!
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  • leftwinger57
    leftwinger57 Posts: 2,917
    Here's my Nikko 6065 w/ pumping 34 watts in my bedroom. The green back light is so bright it illuminates my bedroom.
    Randy I have to ask. How do you like those Klipsch you showed a page ago.. Lew
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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 34,916
    edited March 2016
    leftwinger57 wrote: »
    Here's my Nikko 6065 w/ pumping 34 watts in my bedroom. The green back light is so bright it illuminates my bedroom.
    Randy I have to ask. How do you like those Klipsch you showed a page ago.. Lew

    That's a pretty little Nikko -- I am taking the liberty of making it (I think) a little easier for folks to see :- )


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    EDIT: sorry, this is the only Nikko catalog info I have :-P

    13270212555_5b460ebb34_b.jpgNikko by Mark Hardy, on Flickr
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  • aprazer402
    aprazer402 Posts: 3,352
    http://omaha.craigslist.org/ele/5488184295.html No affil.
    mrh, your beloved Altec's are shown in the ad in the second photo.
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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 34,916
    heh -- you've gotta love a publication entitled "Low-Cost HiFi" that has a McIntosh tuner & a big ol' JBL compression driver, horn & diffuser on the cover. They weren't low cost "then" and they still ain't "now" :- )

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  • aprazer402
    aprazer402 Posts: 3,352
    I need to fire this 'ol gal up again. Maybe 10 watts per channel. I had a tech go through it a couple of years ago. The old RCA 6V6GT tubes tested and matched well, it needed a new rectifier tube? It was a freebie. It's left front knob is a mismatch. I remember mrh posting about a company that hoards (and sells) old knobs etc. I think they're right here in Nebr. b9ljlmsmy53s.jpg
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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 34,916
    Prolly these guyses: https://www.surplussales.com/

    That is a wicked funky amplifier, in the sense that the brand is utterly unfamiliar. PP 6V6 is capable of quite good hifi sound; probably about 12 wpc (give or take a coupla watts).

    The cosmetics and morphology of the amp remind me of the "Knight" branded hardware sold by Allied Radio of Chicago. Unlike Radio Shack's "Realistic" products of the same era (early 1960s -- maybe, but not likely, very late 1950s), the Knight stuff was largely US made. No idea who the OEM was, though.

    Lemme see if I can identify a Knight "lookalike" @ www.alliedcatalogs.com
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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 34,916
    edited March 2016
    That was easy; found the Allied/Knight cognate (I think!) in the first catalog I looked at :- )

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    source: www.alliedcatalogs.com (1959)

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    The switch positions are swapped :-P
    Tube complement looks like it is (probably?) the same.

    Many Knight-branded components had the tubes mounted horizontally to allow a modern, "low profile" styling.
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  • aprazer402
    aprazer402 Posts: 3,352
    The Pacemaker 2221 was made by Bell Labs, probably a lower line than the ones labeled with Bell.6k0i0d3phn1m.jpg
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  • aprazer402
    aprazer402 Posts: 3,352
    Looks like the Knight brand is the same unit too.
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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 34,916
    edited March 2016
    That Bell wasn't affiliated with Bell Labs AFAIK -- but that does clear that up.
    Same amp, pretty sure, as the Knight; good to know. Never saw the "Pacemaker" brand before (yeah, I said that already, didn't I?).

    :- )

    EDIT: Bell Sound Co., Columbus, OH

    Good ol' Google...
    http://www.wingspreadrecords.com/Bell.htm
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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 34,916
    Whoa -- the tube complement of your 2221 is apparently different than that in the brochure scan page you posted. The latter shows 2 6CQ8s and no 12AU7s; yours has a chassis-labeled 12AU7 in one of your photos. Interesting.
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  • aprazer402
    aprazer402 Posts: 3,352
    Found this: http://audiokarma.org/forums/index.php?threads/the-bell-3d-years-ahead-years-ago.234970/page-2 Bell Sound Labs was maker. Scroll to end to see 1958 product pamphlet.
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  • aprazer402
    aprazer402 Posts: 3,352
    Thanks for this link. Interesting old stuff. http://www.wingspreadrecords.com/Bell.htm
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  • boston1450
    boston1450 Posts: 7,758
    leftwinger57 wrote: »
    Here's my Nikko 6065 w/ pumping 34 watts in my bedroom. The green back light is so bright it illuminates my bedroom.
    Randy I have to ask. How do you like those Klipsch you showed a page ago.. Lew
    I hooked them to the Marantz 2252 & one of the horn tweeters is out. I noticed right off something wasnt right. So last night i ordered one from the bay under 50. I got them dirt cheap otherwise i wouldnt have messed with them. Cleaned them up vnicely & will try them out again when they are up n running
    Randy-Maine
    2ch-RTA15tl crossover upgrade
    by David WMG
    Yamaha cr1000 cr2040
    HT-Yamaha Parasound Acurus
    MIT BJC Cs1000p Polk Rotation
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  • aprazer402
    aprazer402 Posts: 3,352
    edited March 2016
    mhardy6647 wrote: »
    Whoa -- the tube complement of your 2221 is apparently different than that in the brochure scan page you posted. The latter shows 2 6CQ8s and no 12AU7s; yours has a chassis-labeled 12AU7 in one of your photos. Interesting.

    That is odd (but I know nothing about tubes, this is one of two tube components I own. All I know is you never turn on a tube amp without having speakers connected.) Mine has one 12AU7 and four 12AX7's, circled in red. That's what's installed in mine, I checked them. Why do you suppose the two 12AX7's on the right have aluminum sleeves over them? Thanks! n02q5t9bsqj5.jpg
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  • [Deleted User]
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    audio archeology! B)
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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 34,916
    The two shielded 12AX7s are preamp tubes; both are probably used in the high gain moving magnet phono cartridge preamp section.
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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 34,916
    Looking for the schematic to see what the 12AU7's for. I am guessing that the other two 12AX7s are in the phase splitters, but I could well be wrong.

    Meanwhile, I did find this Flikr album of nice photos of a Pacemaker 2221! :- )
    https://flic.kr/s/aHskaAe7f7
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  • starkiller
    starkiller Posts: 2,723
    Here be a pic of my refurbished Voice of Music EL84 amp...q8c9w2ejcxrj.jpg
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  • aprazer402
    aprazer402 Posts: 3,352
    starkiller wrote: »
    Here be a pic of my refurbished Voice of Music EL84 amp...q8c9w2ejcxrj.jpg

    That is sharp, very nice! Amazing what can be done with some of these old hi-fi pieces. How does it sound? What speakers? Way B) !
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