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Too funny how things turn out.Oh, Listen here mister. We got no way of understandin' this world. But we got as much sense of this bird flyin in the sky. Now there is a lot that bird don't know, but it don't change the fact that the world is happening to him all the same. What I am tryin to say is, is that the course of your life, well its changing, and you don't even see it- Forest Bondurant
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That was a pretty good game.
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OMG...I almost had a heart attack!!! Bring on Ice Bowl II...Anaheim Hills CA,
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It'd be the ice bowl tonight but next Sunday, it'll be 20 above not 20 below like now. It'll be the frozen tundra though. Bring it on.
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Cowboys are going to have to play better against your Packers...frozen tundra or not!!!Anaheim Hills CA,
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I'm worried about the 'Boys. The Packers should be jacked up, though, and it will be in Green Bay. Should be a good game.
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A couple calls in the Detroit/Dallas game were abysmal, and may have influenced the outcome. How they picked up that pass interference call against Dallas after the defender ran into the Detroit receiver, making contact before the ball got there and getting hit in the back by the ball without ever looking for it is beyond me. The official even announced the call, and they then picked up the flag as if nothing happened.
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That was a bad call. Period.
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We'll there was bad calls both sides
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nooshinjohn wrote: »A couple calls in the Detroit/Dallas game were abysmal, and may have influenced the outcome. How they picked up that pass interference call against Dallas after the defender ran into the Detroit receiver, making contact before the ball got there and getting hit in the back by the ball without ever looking for it is beyond me. The official even announced the call, and they then picked up the flag as if nothing happened.
I have seen an overturned call on replay, but never have I seen an officiating crew do that in a game.
Heads need to roll and bank accounts investigated over that one.
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If you guys had watched the whole play you would have seen the receiver pulling on the defenders face mask. There was no way he could have turned around, then the ball hit him in the back. He through his hands up because the receiver grabbed his face mask. If anything it should have been pass interference on the offence!Anaheim Hills CA,
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I watched the entire play, he had his hand up there after he was already molested.
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You'd have your hand up too after you got molested!Anaheim Hills CA,
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There were other bad calls in the game as well, but none had the impact on the game that reversed call did. The no call on the punter wouldn't have mattered anyway because it still would have been fourth down.
Calls get screwed up all the time though, which is why we need to have the ability to challenge those as well! I understand why the NFL doesn't do that since they don't want their calls questioned, doesn't make it right though. My 49ers lost AT LEAST one if not two games this year directly related to bad calls, with the technology we have now that's just unacceptable.
Not being able to review those calls is just as bad as HD Tracks not having user reviews for the albums they sell, it's simply unacceptable.
And hell, I'm not even a Lions fan I can't imagine how they feel. I was rooting for Dallas (not very often that happens) because I think they're the only team capable of going up to Seattle and winning. -
As it has been explained, it was not pass interference as he did not impede the receivers ability to catch the (underthrown) ball. They got it right. The ref who thru the flag never had the correct angel on the play to make the call to begin with he just figured that since the defender never looked back for the ball that he interfered with the receiver. It is not a penalty to not look back for the ball, only if there is contact that prevents the receiver from catching the ball. Both players have equal right to the ball and their position. There was minimal/incidental contact by both players. He was never going to catch that ball and therefore never was impeded by the defender access to catch the ball... The flag should have never been thrown. If he had thrown a better pass and the receiver could have caught the ball.... well you know what they say about my "aunt" and "if".My New Year's resolution is 3840 × 2160
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How did he NOT impede the ability to catch the ball? Are we watching the same play?
The non-biased opinions that I've heard seem to ALL agree that was a penalty. I could care less and wanted Dallas to win, but no way that's not a foul. -
This shot gives a nice view of what happened. The ball was not underthrown, the defender didn't turn his head to make a play on the ball, the defender made contact beyond five yards before the ball arrived. That's is interference, no question about it. Refs got it very wrong.

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I was pulling for a Dallas win too, but honestly, the officiating in the game was horrible, especially on that play.
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IMO...Detroit never should have let themselves get in to a position where a penalty would be such a decisive factor in the game. They were the better team...for most of the game. But they let it get to that point and the Cowboys prevailed.
Bad officiating or not, Detroit is just as much at fault for dominating the game and then blowing the lead by scoring only 3 points in the 2nd half. They dominated Dallas the entire first half and then did nothing the 2nd half. You don't win playoff games sitting on a lead.
Also, I watched the play over and over again. Hitchens was holding about 2 yards off the line and let go. Shoulda been called there. But after he let go, Pettigrew had his hand on Hitchens' left shoulder pad and looked like he was pulling on him. Holding shoulda been called there too. Hitchens was leaning forward, and seemingly unable to turn around. His head moved to his left but his body didn't. The ball happened to arrive at the same time that Hitchens threw his left arm up to take down Pettigrew's right hand holding (which was Pettigrew's pass interfence at that point since he hampered Hitchens' chance at getting the ball) but Pettigrew let go to try and catch the ball. Hithcens' back was turned and he was not aware of the ball until it hit him in the back. Hitchens' flailing at Pettigrew's hold was pass interference at well but since he was unaware that the ball was coming his way, I don't think it would have been called anyway. The ball was under thrown. It hit Hitchens in the back and Pettigrew had to reach for it since he was well past the point where the ball was thrown. If Hitchens wasn't in the way, Pettigrew would have caught that just above his knees.
I saw 4 penalties there. A hold by Detroit, a hold by Dallas, an offensive pass interference and defensive pass interference.
It was an ugly play. Maybe the right call was made? Maybe it wasn't? But it didn't decide the game. Detroit's poor 2nd half showing decided the game and gave the pretty tenacious Dallas offense a chance to close the gap when it mattered. That was Detroit's game to lose and they did. Either team deserves to move on and either team has a legit shot at going to the Super Bowl 'cause either team is capable of beating any of the teams left in it.
It was an awesome game though! Talk about drama!Expert Moron Extraordinaire
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Bet this guy is pissed....

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I think the fact that every sports radio outlet around the country is talking about that call and seem to share the unanimous opinion that it was a blown call speaks volumes. I also agree it didn't decide the game, still had a 4th down left to get those yards and elected to punt the ball instead so that's on Caldwell.
I think the larger issue is how the calls are handled. First, you have the refs calling playoff games differently than the regular season, and the NFL openly admits this. If it's a penalty in week one it should also be in the playoffs. More importantly, officiating needs to fall under the scope of the review system. It wouldn't have mattered here because this was a call that wasn't made vs a bad call that was made, but calls for things like roughing and targeting and unsportsmanlike moves should be reviewed.
This call didn't decide the game, but there have been calls during the regular season that did decide the game. Once one of those happens in a playoff game then the NFL will step up and fix the broken system, but probably not until then. It's a matter of when, not if... -
You're right about that , Detroit had about 5 penalties just in the 4th quarter didn't they? I've seen the Texans implode like that before.
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Hey Ken, maybe if Dallas ends up winning the Super Bowl, the guy can get another tattoo of a cowboy roping in that lion.ken brydson wrote: »Bet this guy is pissed....
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The ball was thrown behind the receiver and the defender. There was contact by both players. The right call was made, and many analysts also agree.. The ref who threw the flag after conferring with the officials who actually saw the play decided to pick up the flag... He and he alone is the only one who makes that decision. He threw the flag and after hearing from the officials who saw the play (who albeit were closer and at better angles) decided he was wrong to throw the flag.
Chris Carter on ESPN this morning said that PI should not be called when:
The pass is uncatchable (in this case because it was under thrown and hit the defender in the back)
Now there were other fowls (holding face mask) but they weren't called so you can't just call them after the fact.
What was the defender supposed to do?Lay down and not let the ball hit him in the back? He didn't know that Stafford threw a $hitty pass. Then the Lions decided to lay down and punt on 4th and 1 when if they could have gained a yard they could have iced the game. Cry me a river.
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You know what kills me is that the haters are saying this gave the Cowboys the win. HELLO, the Lions had the lead when this happened!!!Anaheim Hills CA,
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You know what kills me is that the haters are saying this gave the Cowboys the win. HELLO, the Lions had the lead when this happened!!!
I am a Vikings fan, so I have no dog in the fight, but it looked to me that the game was one of the most poorly officiated games I have seen in a long time.
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nooshinjohn wrote: »You know what kills me is that the haters are saying this gave the Cowboys the win. HELLO, the Lions had the lead when this happened!!!
I am a Vikings fan, so I have no dog in the fight, but it looked to me that the game was one of the most poorly officiated games I have seen in a long time.
I would agree if you would include the running into and the not running into the kicker calls as well as the shot that Romo took to the back of the knees on the winning touchdown pass.
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We'll just agree to disagree then, the overwhelming majority of everything I've heard today agrees that it was a bad no call and even NFL representatives have said as much, including the officiating guy on Fox yesterday.
One thing is for sure, it's a great call if you're a Cowboys fan which I was yesterday so I'll take it either way, though like I said I think they win the game without that call. -
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