Do power cords make a difference?

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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,994
    edited January 2013
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    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,994
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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,994
    edited January 2013
    Sorry for the thread jack!!

    Please continue...
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  • halo71
    halo71 Posts: 4,630
    edited January 2013
    Hayman...you truly are cheap entertainment! What are your views of Roger Russell?
    --Gary--
    Onkyo Integra M504, Bottlehead Foreplay III, Denon SACD, Thiel CS2.3, NHT VT-2, VT-3 and Evolution T6, Infinity RSIIIa, SDA1C and a few dozen other speakers around the house I change in and out.
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  • ken brydson
    ken brydson Posts: 8,988
    edited January 2013
    halo71 wrote: »
    Hayman...you truly are cheap entertainment! What are your views of Roger Russell?

    Hehe...:cheesygrin:
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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,994
    edited January 2013
    halo71 wrote: »
    Hayman...you truly are cheap entertainment! What are your views of Roger Russell?

    Do you think he knows who he is without googling it?:cheesygrin:
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  • halo71
    halo71 Posts: 4,630
    edited January 2013
    No....he's probably Googling it now.
    --Gary--
    Onkyo Integra M504, Bottlehead Foreplay III, Denon SACD, Thiel CS2.3, NHT VT-2, VT-3 and Evolution T6, Infinity RSIIIa, SDA1C and a few dozen other speakers around the house I change in and out.
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  • Jhayman
    Jhayman Posts: 1,548
    edited January 2013
    Thank You wkjeffers, for this objective comment..
    My I ask how much that PS Audio cable cost$

    wkjeffers wrote: »
    as an engineer, I fought the upgrade bug for a while pertaining to power cords, but I at least think I hear a difference with my aragon 4004 when I switched to a PS audio cable.
    ATC SCM40's,VTL TL 2.5 Preamp,PSB Stratus Goldi's,McCormack DNA 500,McCormack MAP-1 Preamp,Pro-Ject Xtension 10 TT,Ortofon Cadenza Red/Nordost RedDawn LS Speaker cables, Bryston BDP-2, Bryston BDA-2,PS Audio AC-3 power cables
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  • ken brydson
    ken brydson Posts: 8,988
    edited January 2013
    Toolfan66 wrote: »
    Do you think he knows who he is without googling it?:cheesygrin:

    Do you mean Wodger Wabbitt or maybe Wussell Rilson (go Seahawks!). Sorry, couldn't resist....
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 51,689
    edited January 2013
    I've got to get in on this one, too much fun....
    Jhayman wrote: »
    Hey Tool I'm just trying to educate the uneducated..is all.

    Not with that list of gear you're not. :razz:
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

    President of Club Polk

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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,994
    edited January 2013
    f1nut wrote: »
    i've got to get in on this one, too much fun....



    Not with that list of gear you're not. :razz:


    lol!!
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,952
    edited January 2013
    Jhayman wrote: »
    Have I reached 100 posts yet to allow me to buy something or to even see the infamous for sale items..

    Hmmm, the real intent for the troll [I think it's fairly obvious by now, regardless of the hilarity]?

    Tom
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
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  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    edited January 2013
    I've got to get in on this one, too much fun...

    You are reported because of what you are thinking. :smile:
    Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
    Sony XA-5400ES SACD; Pass XP-22 pre; X600.5 amps
    Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers; SPOD spikes

    Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR on source, Denali 2000 (2) on amps
    Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
    Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables

    Mapleshade Samson V.3 four shelf solid maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
    Three 20 amp circuits.
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  • audiocr381ve
    audiocr381ve Posts: 2,588
    edited January 2013
    Kenneth Swauger wrote: »
    Hello,
    I sometimes am at a loss when dealing with contentious threads. If they are closed too soon I'm afraid of stifling genuine back-and-forth conversation. If they stay around too long people tend to escalate their level of hostility.
    There's no easy answer.
    Regards, Ken

    Shutting them down consistently will lead to genuine back and forth down the road. Gotta keep the house in order.
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  • halo71
    halo71 Posts: 4,630
    edited January 2013
    BlueFox wrote: »
    You are reported because of what you are thinking. :smile:

    Should be deported....
    --Gary--
    Onkyo Integra M504, Bottlehead Foreplay III, Denon SACD, Thiel CS2.3, NHT VT-2, VT-3 and Evolution T6, Infinity RSIIIa, SDA1C and a few dozen other speakers around the house I change in and out.
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  • Jhayman
    Jhayman Posts: 1,548
    edited January 2013
    Looks like you are debunking your own beliefs, lol
    http://www.stereophile.com/content/cables-myth-1
    And yes I have been to that site before but did not know who wrote it..

    halo71 wrote: »
    Hayman...you truly are cheap entertainment! What are your views of Roger Russell?
    ATC SCM40's,VTL TL 2.5 Preamp,PSB Stratus Goldi's,McCormack DNA 500,McCormack MAP-1 Preamp,Pro-Ject Xtension 10 TT,Ortofon Cadenza Red/Nordost RedDawn LS Speaker cables, Bryston BDP-2, Bryston BDA-2,PS Audio AC-3 power cables
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  • Jhayman
    Jhayman Posts: 1,548
    edited January 2013
    Ill give ya credit you are trying..
    Please..
    Looks like everyone else is trolling...
    treitz3 wrote: »
    Hmmm, the real intent for the troll [I think it's fairly obvious by now, regardless of the hilarity]?



    Tom
    ATC SCM40's,VTL TL 2.5 Preamp,PSB Stratus Goldi's,McCormack DNA 500,McCormack MAP-1 Preamp,Pro-Ject Xtension 10 TT,Ortofon Cadenza Red/Nordost RedDawn LS Speaker cables, Bryston BDP-2, Bryston BDA-2,PS Audio AC-3 power cables
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  • halo71
    halo71 Posts: 4,630
    edited January 2013
    Jhayman wrote: »
    Looks like you are debunking your own beliefs, lol
    http://www.stereophile.com/content/cables-myth-1
    And yes I have been to that site before but did not know who wrote it..

    Umm, no I'm not. Usually people on your level, general lack of any kind of experience. Unwilling to try out new things for yourself. Believe everything you read on the internet....ala that Car Insurance commercial lol. People like you tend to think Roger Russell is an audio God. That is why I asked.
    --Gary--
    Onkyo Integra M504, Bottlehead Foreplay III, Denon SACD, Thiel CS2.3, NHT VT-2, VT-3 and Evolution T6, Infinity RSIIIa, SDA1C and a few dozen other speakers around the house I change in and out.
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  • Jhayman
    Jhayman Posts: 1,548
    edited January 2013
    You really have nothing to contribute except to attack another members gear choices ,that's several times now..
    I think the Mods need to talk with you..
    F1nut wrote: »
    I've got to get in on this one, too much fun....


    Not with that list of gear you're not. :razz:
    ATC SCM40's,VTL TL 2.5 Preamp,PSB Stratus Goldi's,McCormack DNA 500,McCormack MAP-1 Preamp,Pro-Ject Xtension 10 TT,Ortofon Cadenza Red/Nordost RedDawn LS Speaker cables, Bryston BDP-2, Bryston BDA-2,PS Audio AC-3 power cables
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  • Jhayman
    Jhayman Posts: 1,548
    edited January 2013
    Nope had no idea who he was, do not care to be honest..
    I don't believe everything I read online either, I get multiple sources and reviews..

    halo71 wrote: »
    Umm, no I'm not. Usually people on your level, general lack of any kind of experience. Unwilling to try out n
    ew things for yourself. Believe everything you read on the internet....ala that Car Insurance commercial lol. People like you tend to think Roger Russell is an audio God. That is why I asked.
    ATC SCM40's,VTL TL 2.5 Preamp,PSB Stratus Goldi's,McCormack DNA 500,McCormack MAP-1 Preamp,Pro-Ject Xtension 10 TT,Ortofon Cadenza Red/Nordost RedDawn LS Speaker cables, Bryston BDP-2, Bryston BDA-2,PS Audio AC-3 power cables
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,952
    edited January 2013
    Jhayman wrote: »
    Ill give ya credit you are trying..
    Please..
    Looks like everyone else is trolling...

    Pot, meet the Kettle Black. Look man, I gave you as simple a test as you could try. You said that you would try it. You lied and changed your mind. You said that you were done with this thread.....multiple times. You lied and changed your mind. You asked questions, they were answered. Both scientifically and otherwise with some good, solid advice. Yet, you remain spewing things that nobody here has observed themselves just based off of real experiences. You are a troll, nothing more, nothing less.

    I actually genuinely tried to let you learn on your own, without influence and be enlightened. You accepted and without trying, you resorted back to your normal mantra. On an audio board, by any definition, that is a troll. Have a good life.

    Tom
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 51,689
    edited January 2013
    Jhayman wrote: »
    You really have nothing to contribute except to attack another members gear choices ,that's several times now..
    I think the Mods need to talk with you..

    I think a talk with your mommy is more to the point. Does she know you're up this late on the computer talking with strangers and making a fool out of yourself? I'm sure she'd be very proud.

    Let me get serious here for a second. The fact that you just said I have nothing to contribute is testament enough to your level of ignorance.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

    President of Club Polk

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  • EndersShadow
    EndersShadow Posts: 17,687
    edited January 2013
    Wonder what he's gonna sell or try to buy once he hits 100 posts.... looks like he's 25 replies away :biggrin:....

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    "....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963)
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  • Jhayman
    Jhayman Posts: 1,548
    edited January 2013
    Who said I was not going to try, I don't remember saying that..?
    I'm sorry I did not run out and buy a PC today, don't know to many places that sell that brand of oil..

    treitz3 wrote: »
    Pot, meet the Kettle Black. Look man, I gave you as simple a test as you could try. You said that you would try it. You lied and changed your mind. You said that you were done with this thread.....multiple times. You lied and changed your mind. You asked questions, they were answered. Both scientifically and otherwise with some good, solid advice. Yet, you remain spewing things that nobody here has observed themselves just based off of real experiences. You are a troll, nothing more, nothing less.

    I actually genuinely tried to let you learn on your own, without influence and be enlightened. You accepted and without trying, you resorted back to your normal mantra. On an audio board, by any definition, that is a troll. Have a good life.

    Tom
    ATC SCM40's,VTL TL 2.5 Preamp,PSB Stratus Goldi's,McCormack DNA 500,McCormack MAP-1 Preamp,Pro-Ject Xtension 10 TT,Ortofon Cadenza Red/Nordost RedDawn LS Speaker cables, Bryston BDP-2, Bryston BDA-2,PS Audio AC-3 power cables
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  • halo71
    halo71 Posts: 4,630
    edited January 2013
    Jhayman wrote: »
    Nope had no idea who he was, do not care to be honest..
    I don't believe everything I read online either, I get multiple sources and reviews..

    At this point you really are doing nothing more than trolling. You have nothing to contribute to this thread. You really remind of a few past, now banned, members. You have a no-it-all mentality. You shoot down others experience. You will not try things out for yourself to form your own opinion through experience.

    What is left for you to do? Just troll this thread and argue with people is all. And your continuing posting in this thread to get 100 posts. I said a few posts back but....again...do you really think anyone here will buy or sell to you? Are you really that ignorant?
    --Gary--
    Onkyo Integra M504, Bottlehead Foreplay III, Denon SACD, Thiel CS2.3, NHT VT-2, VT-3 and Evolution T6, Infinity RSIIIa, SDA1C and a few dozen other speakers around the house I change in and out.
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  • Jhayman
    Jhayman Posts: 1,548
    edited January 2013
    Maybe I will buy the PC you have for sale so you can recoup some of your wasted $$
    EndersShadow wrote: »
    Wonder what he's gonna sell or try to buy once he hits 100 posts.... looks like he's 25 replies away :
    biggrin:....

    DRAMA.gif
    ATC SCM40's,VTL TL 2.5 Preamp,PSB Stratus Goldi's,McCormack DNA 500,McCormack MAP-1 Preamp,Pro-Ject Xtension 10 TT,Ortofon Cadenza Red/Nordost RedDawn LS Speaker cables, Bryston BDP-2, Bryston BDA-2,PS Audio AC-3 power cables
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  • halo71
    halo71 Posts: 4,630
    edited January 2013
    Jhayman wrote: »
    Maybe I will buy the PC you have for sale so you can recoup some of your wasted $$

    Ahh what do you know...I has a report button too!

    You've been reported for trolling mister!!! lol
    --Gary--
    Onkyo Integra M504, Bottlehead Foreplay III, Denon SACD, Thiel CS2.3, NHT VT-2, VT-3 and Evolution T6, Infinity RSIIIa, SDA1C and a few dozen other speakers around the house I change in and out.
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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,994
    edited January 2013
    Jhayman wrote: »
    Maybe I will buy the PC you have for sale so you can recoup some of your wasted $$


    And point made!!!
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  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    edited January 2013
    EndersShadow wrote: »
    Wonder what he's gonna sell or try to buy once he hits 100 posts.... looks like he's 25 replies away

    Well he has already bought all the stupidity available. In fact, he has cornered the world market, and is now a monopoly of stupidity. Other than the stupid people, nobody will buy his nonsense.
    Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
    Sony XA-5400ES SACD; Pass XP-22 pre; X600.5 amps
    Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers; SPOD spikes

    Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR on source, Denali 2000 (2) on amps
    Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
    Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables

    Mapleshade Samson V.3 four shelf solid maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
    Three 20 amp circuits.
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  • markmarc
    markmarc Posts: 2,309
    edited January 2013
    Jhayman wrote: »
    So what does Passlabs and Burmester have to say then, are you going to tell me they recommending to their customers to buy an aftermarket PC to power their $$$$ Amp?

    The following quote is from the PassLabs website on power supplies. Notice how Nelson Pass in no way says aftermarket cords are not necessary or discusses the stock cord. He even goes on to explain his design preference in an after market cord.

    Wire
    Audiophiles love wire. Perhaps the appeal lies in the accessibility to understanding. Perhaps not. In any case, I like my wire thick and short, and made out of pure soft metals such as copper or silver. I like it terminated tightly and soldered where possible.
    https://passlabs.com/articles/power-supplies-commentary-for-consumers

    I can personally testify if you ask the high end manufacturers what aftermarket cords they and or customers have found success with they will tell you. Go to the Montreal show in March and see/hear for yourself.
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    2 Ch. System
    Amplifiers: Parasound Halo P6 pre, Vista Audio i34, Peachtree amp500, Adcom GFP-565 GFA-535ii, 545ii, 555ii
    Digital: SimAudio HAD230 DAC, iMac 20in/Amarra,
    Speakers: Paradigm Performa F75, Magnepan .7, Totem Model 1's, ACI Emerald XL, Celestion Si Stands. Totem Dreamcatcher sub
    Analog: Technics SL-J2 w/Pickering 3000D, SimAudio LP5.3 phono pre
    Cable/Wires: Cardas, AudioArt, Shunyata Venom 3
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