Do power cords make a difference?

pearsall001
pearsall001 Posts: 5,068
edited January 2013 in 2 Channel Audio
Yes indeed they certainly do!!!!! My Shunyata Venom 3 PC's were a definite ear opener. Weren't those two games great yesterday. I'm looking forward to today's matchups.
"2 Channel & 11.2 HT "Two Channel:Magnepan LRSSchiit Audio Freya S - SS preConsonance Ref 50 - Tube preParasound HALO A21+ 2 channel ampBluesound NODE 2i streameriFi NEO iDSD DAC Oppo BDP-93KEF KC62 sub Home Theater:Full blown 11.2 set up.
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  • bobsauto49
    bobsauto49 Posts: 973
    edited January 2013
    I'm not happy with u Phil!
    Because of u,I had to spend $375 on 3 viper PC's! Got them thurs. put 2 on my ML, and 1 on my power amp! I'm gonna get u back! Just don't know how yet!
    "Everything I ever did in my life worthwhile I caught hell for"
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  • decal
    decal Posts: 3,205
    edited January 2013
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    If you can't hear a difference, don't waste your money.
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited January 2013
    Of course they do, duh :biggrin:

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • lightman1
    lightman1 Posts: 10,788
    edited January 2013
    Yes...NO! .....maybe???:redface:
    Nice worms, decal. Gone fishin'!!
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  • pearsall001
    pearsall001 Posts: 5,068
    edited January 2013
    bobsauto49 wrote: »
    I'm not happy with u Phil!
    Because of u,I had to spend $375 on 3 viper PC's! Got them thurs. put 2 on my ML, and 1 on my power amp! I'm gonna get u back! Just don't know how yet!

    I know, I know...payback is a ****!!! Sometimes. :lol:
    "2 Channel & 11.2 HT "Two Channel:Magnepan LRSSchiit Audio Freya S - SS preConsonance Ref 50 - Tube preParasound HALO A21+ 2 channel ampBluesound NODE 2i streameriFi NEO iDSD DAC Oppo BDP-93KEF KC62 sub Home Theater:Full blown 11.2 set up.
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  • pearsall001
    pearsall001 Posts: 5,068
    edited January 2013
    heiney9 wrote: »
    Of course they do, duh :biggrin:

    H9

    Brock, where the hell you been? I figured you were lurking but you haven't been posting in awhile. Flu got ya down.
    "2 Channel & 11.2 HT "Two Channel:Magnepan LRSSchiit Audio Freya S - SS preConsonance Ref 50 - Tube preParasound HALO A21+ 2 channel ampBluesound NODE 2i streameriFi NEO iDSD DAC Oppo BDP-93KEF KC62 sub Home Theater:Full blown 11.2 set up.
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited January 2013
    Phil, it's been a lot of things. I have been sick recently with the ick that's going around. I have been here lurking as always, just not commenting much these days. The forum has changed a bit and since we lost access at work after a serious hack (we are seriously in lock down as far as outside web surfing) I don't post as much. Plus, a lot of the stuff on the forum is the same rehashed stuff over and over and over and over...........I just don't have the energy to respond for the umpteenth time to the same ole' questions. :smile:

    I'm here, just in lurk mode. I still keep up with who's got what gear, etc......For the time being I am content with all my gear and I finally stopped buying tubes and am content in that area as well. But I do have a **** ton of tubes to roll. :cheesygrin:

    Enjoy the new amps and of course the power cords.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • decal
    decal Posts: 3,205
    edited January 2013
    lightman1 wrote: »
    Yes...NO! .....maybe???:redface:
    Nice worms, decal. Gone fishin'!!

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    If you can't hear a difference, don't waste your money.
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  • 11tsteve
    11tsteve Posts: 1,166
    edited January 2013
    heiney9 wrote: »
    Phil, it's been a lot of things. I have been sick recently with the ick that's going around. I have been here lurking as always, just not commenting much these days. The forum has changed a bit and since we lost access at work after a serious hack (we are seriously in lock down as far as outside web surfing) I don't post as much. Plus, a lot of the stuff on the forum is the same rehashed stuff over and over and over and over...........I just don't have the energy to respond for the umpteenth time to the same ole' questions. :smile:

    I'm here, just in lurk mode. I still keep up with who's got what gear, etc......For the time being I am content with all my gear and I finally stopped buying tubes and am content in that area as well. But I do have a **** ton of tubes to roll. :cheesygrin:

    Enjoy the new amps and of course the power cords.

    H9
    Perhaps that would be a good topic for a new post.... the experience of being content with all of one's gear.:cheesygrin:
    I haven't stopped buying since I joined. Finally upgraded my speaker cable to MIT, and a new power cord will be next when funds allow......
    Polk Lsi9
    N.E.W. A-20 class A 20W
    NAD 1020 completely refurbished
    Keces DA-131 mk.II
    Analysis Plus Copper Oval, Douglass, Morrow SUB3, Huffman Digital
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  • cnh
    cnh Posts: 13,284
    edited January 2013
    As the show tune refrain in the Audio world goes:

    Everything MAKES a difference! (If "you" can hear it).

    Power up, power down! Can you hear it? If so "you're good". If not; don't KICK yourself (not everyone can).

    cnh
    Currently orbiting Bowie's Blackstar.!

    Polk Lsi-7s, Def Tech 8" sub, HK 3490, HK HD 990 (CDP/DAC), AKG Q701s
    [sig. changed on a monthly basis as I rotate in and out of my stash]
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  • pearsall001
    pearsall001 Posts: 5,068
    edited January 2013
    Brock, glad to hear all is well with you. I know there's a lot of funky stuff going around & so far I've escaped it's wrath. Knock on wood!!! I hear you about the forum but that's to be expected with all the new members. Happy to hear you're content with your gear & will be well occupied with tube rolling to pass the time.

    That's too bad about the work scenerio... it only takes one bad apple to ruin the batch. :evil: And yes I am enjoying the new mono's :biggrin: & the improvements the PC's have made. :biggrin: Don't be such a stranger! :smile:
    "2 Channel & 11.2 HT "Two Channel:Magnepan LRSSchiit Audio Freya S - SS preConsonance Ref 50 - Tube preParasound HALO A21+ 2 channel ampBluesound NODE 2i streameriFi NEO iDSD DAC Oppo BDP-93KEF KC62 sub Home Theater:Full blown 11.2 set up.
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  • Ak Gara
    Ak Gara Posts: 4
    edited January 2013
    I like to think power cords make a difference. I tried running with out them for awhile and the speakers where just disappointing.
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  • leroyjr1
    leroyjr1 Posts: 8,785
    edited January 2013
    Ak Gara wrote: »
    I like to think power cords make a difference. I tried running with out them for awhile and the speakers where just disappointing.

    You should probably look at some new speakers.
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  • headrott
    headrott Posts: 5,496
    edited January 2013
    Ak Gara wrote: »
    I like to think power cords make a difference. I tried running with out them for awhile and the speakers where just disappointing.

    You should get some spekaers that don't require a power cord.:razz:
    Relayer-Big-O-Poster.jpg
    Taken from a recent Audioholics reply regarding "Club Polk" and Polk speakers:
    "I'm yet to hear a Polk speaker that merits more than a sentence and 60 seconds discussion." :\
    My response is: If you need 60 seconds to respond in one sentence, you probably should't be evaluating Polk speakers.....

    "Green leaves reveal the heart spoken Khatru"- Jon Anderson

    "Have A Little Faith! And Everything You'll Face, Will Jump From Out Right On Into Place! Yeah! Take A Little Time! And Everything You'll Find, Will Move From Gloom Right On Into Shine!"- Arthur Lee
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  • PolkieMan
    PolkieMan Posts: 2,446
    edited January 2013
    yea without power cords my stuff doesn't turn on :cheesygrin:
    POLK SDA 2.3 TLS BOUGHT NEW IN 1990, Gimpod/Sonic Caps/Mills RDO-198
    POLK CSI-A6 POLK MONITOR 70'S ONKYO TX NR-808 SONY CDP-333ES
    PIONEER PL-510A SONY BDP S5100
    POLK SDA 1C BOUGHT USED 2011,Gimpod/Sonic Caps/Mills RDO-194
    ONKYO HT RC-360 SONY BDP S590 TECHNICS SL BD-1
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  • txcoastal1
    txcoastal1 Posts: 13,287
    edited January 2013
    heiney9 wrote: »
    But I do have a **** ton of tubes to roll. :cheesygrin:
    H9

    Well roll them tubes and keep us updated on the good, the bad, and the ugly

    Hope you are feeling better

    Cheers
    2-channel: Modwright KWI-200 Integrated, Dynaudio C1-II Signatures
    Desktop rig: LSi7, Polk 110sub, Dayens Ampino amp, W4S DAC/pre, Sonos, JRiver
    Gear on standby: Melody 101 tube pre, Unison Research Simply Italy Integrated
    Gone to new homes: (Matt Polk's)Threshold Stasis SA12e monoblocks, Pass XA30.5 amp, Usher MD2 speakers, Dynaudio C4 platinum speakers, Modwright LS100 (voltz), Simaudio 780D DAC

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  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    edited January 2013
    pearsall001 wrote: »
    Yes indeed they certainly do!!!!! My Shunyata Venom 3 PC's were a definite ear opener.

    Great! We have another Shunyata fan. If you can hear a difference with the Venoms then move on up to the Zitron line. You will be even more amazed. Shunyata really discovered something when they invented DTCD for measuring power cord performance.

    Enjoy, enjoy, enjoy.
    Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
    Sony XA-5400ES SACD; Pass XP-22 pre; X600.5 amps
    Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers; SPOD spikes

    Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR on source, Denali 2000 (2) on amps
    Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
    Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables

    Mapleshade Samson V.3 four shelf solid maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
    Three 20 amp circuits.
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  • larry777
    larry777 Posts: 480
    edited January 2013
    I also noticed H9 wasn't posting for awhile. I used to look foreward to his comments.....but they became fewer and fewer. I wish H9 had responded more to my posts, but I get his thinking. On the flip side of the coin,its that experience that these forums need isn't it ?. ( Hint,Hint). Even a line or two in a post, with the highlights can help.
    Home Theatre.............

    Pioneer SC-35
    Polk RTi10's Fronts
    Polk CSiA6 Center
    RTi4 Surrounds
    SVS PB-12 Sub


    2 Channel.............................

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  • EndersShadow
    EndersShadow Posts: 17,590
    edited January 2013
    larry777 wrote: »
    I wish H9 had responded more to my posts, but I get his thinking.

    You can always PM him. Heck I got a bunch of phone numbers at this point as its easier to call then respond to PM :biggrin:....
    "....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963)
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  • teekay0007
    teekay0007 Posts: 2,289
    edited January 2013
    BlueFox wrote: »
    Great! We have another Shunyata fan. If you can hear a difference with the Venoms then move on up to the Zitron line. You will be even more amazed. Shunyata really discovered something when they invented DTCD for measuring power cord performance.

    Enjoy, enjoy, enjoy.

    Yeah, Shunyata said, per their DTCD power cord analysis, that I'll notice a HUGE difference using their Ztron line. I snapped up a couple of them (only $3k apiece, how could I resist?) for the Emo XPAs I'm thinking of getting. :cool:
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  • headrott
    headrott Posts: 5,496
    edited January 2013
    teekay0007 wrote: »
    Yeah, Shunyata said, per their DTCD power cord analysis, that I'll notice a HUGE difference using their Ztron line. I snapped up a couple of them (only $3k apiece, how could I resist?) for the Emo XPAs I'm thinking of getting. :cool:

    What a waste of power cords. (That's a joke people).:razz:
    Relayer-Big-O-Poster.jpg
    Taken from a recent Audioholics reply regarding "Club Polk" and Polk speakers:
    "I'm yet to hear a Polk speaker that merits more than a sentence and 60 seconds discussion." :\
    My response is: If you need 60 seconds to respond in one sentence, you probably should't be evaluating Polk speakers.....

    "Green leaves reveal the heart spoken Khatru"- Jon Anderson

    "Have A Little Faith! And Everything You'll Face, Will Jump From Out Right On Into Place! Yeah! Take A Little Time! And Everything You'll Find, Will Move From Gloom Right On Into Shine!"- Arthur Lee
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  • PolkieMan
    PolkieMan Posts: 2,446
    edited January 2013
    what happed to the el flako Carver my friend, give up?
    teekay0007 wrote: »
    Yeah, Shunyata said, per their DTCD power cord analysis, that I'll notice a HUGE difference using their Ztron line. I snapped up a couple of them (only $3k apiece, how could I resist?) for the Emo XPAs I'm thinking of getting. :cool:
    POLK SDA 2.3 TLS BOUGHT NEW IN 1990, Gimpod/Sonic Caps/Mills RDO-198
    POLK CSI-A6 POLK MONITOR 70'S ONKYO TX NR-808 SONY CDP-333ES
    PIONEER PL-510A SONY BDP S5100
    POLK SDA 1C BOUGHT USED 2011,Gimpod/Sonic Caps/Mills RDO-194
    ONKYO HT RC-360 SONY BDP S590 TECHNICS SL BD-1
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  • teekay0007
    teekay0007 Posts: 2,289
    edited January 2013
    PolkieMan wrote: »
    what happed to the el flako Carver my friend, give up?

    No, PolkieMan, haven't given up on the Carver yet - had my tech guy stop over at my house so I could show him how easily I could replicate the problem I was having with my amp. He took the amp with him and later reported that he's waiting for a $20 part that will fix it. Hopefully, that'll take care of it.


    I have no plans for an Emo addition, not that I see anything wrong with giving them a listen. Above, I was just taking a kind jab at a fellow CP member who oddly doesn't believe in double-blind SQ testing, yet he seems to think it's OK to go by the word of the manufacturer and their "invented DTCD for measuring power cord performance" to let him know he should have/want a power cord that costs thousands of dollars each. :cheesygrin:

    Hey, maybe Emotiva should invent something that measures power amp (pre's too?) performance. Now, that would likely put sales through the roof! :loneranger:
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  • PolkieMan
    PolkieMan Posts: 2,446
    edited January 2013
    Well I bet it's that darn.... power cord.:cheesygrin:
    teekay0007 wrote: »
    No, PolkieMan, haven't given up on the Carver yet - had my tech guy stop over at my house so I could show him how easily I could replicate the problem I was having with my amp. He took the amp with him and later reported that he's waiting for a $20 part that will fix it. Hopefully, that'll take care of it.


    I have no plans for an Emo addition, not that I see anything wrong with giving them a listen. Above, I was just taking a kind jab at a fellow CP member who oddly doesn't believe in double-blind SQ testing, yet he seems to think it's OK to go by the word of the manufacturer and their "invented DTCD for measuring power cord performance" to let him know he should have/want a power cord that costs thousands of dollars each. :cheesygrin:

    Hey, maybe Emotiva should invent something that measures power amp (pre's too?) performance. Now, that would likely put sales through the roof! :loneranger:
    POLK SDA 2.3 TLS BOUGHT NEW IN 1990, Gimpod/Sonic Caps/Mills RDO-198
    POLK CSI-A6 POLK MONITOR 70'S ONKYO TX NR-808 SONY CDP-333ES
    PIONEER PL-510A SONY BDP S5100
    POLK SDA 1C BOUGHT USED 2011,Gimpod/Sonic Caps/Mills RDO-194
    ONKYO HT RC-360 SONY BDP S590 TECHNICS SL BD-1
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  • teekay0007
    teekay0007 Posts: 2,289
    edited January 2013
    PolkieMan wrote: »
    Well I bet it's that darn.... power cord.:cheesygrin:

    Ha, I bet you're right. Twenty bucks ought to cover a new one! :razz:
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,965
    edited January 2013
    teekay0007 wrote: »
    Hey, maybe Emotiva should invent something that measures power amp (pre's too?) performance. Now, that would likely put sales through the roof! :loneranger:


    They have, it's called your "Ears". Best part is...it's free too.
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    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,244
    edited January 2013
    Power Cords work for me without them there is no music...
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  • Loud & Clear
    Loud & Clear Posts: 1,538
    edited January 2013
    I've never noticed any difference in sound when it comes to power wire, speaker wire, or interconnect wire. Obviously plenty of other people have. I feel fortunate in that regard, given how much fuss I've put into so many other aspects of my audio systems.

    Two Channel Setup:

    Speakers: Wharfedale Opus 2-3
    Integrated Amp: Krell S-300i
    DAC: Arcam irDac
    Source: iMac
    Remote Control: iPad Mini

    3.2 Home Theater Setup:

    Fronts: Klipsch RP-160M
    Center: Klipsch RP-160M
    Subwoofer: SVS PB12NSD (X 2)
    AVR: Yamaha Aventage RX-A2030
    Blu Ray: Sony BDP-S790
    TV Source: DirecTV Genie
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  • zingo
    zingo Posts: 11,258
    edited January 2013
    Currently my power cords aren't long enough for my reconfigured system, so no sound. Once I get longer ones, I'm sure they will make a difference... :cheesygrin:
    Jake
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  • seabeerob213
    seabeerob213 Posts: 1,843
    edited January 2013
    will they increase the performance of a powered sub? is there a way to convert a receiver to use a detachable?
    2 Channel(work in progress):DAC: Schiit modi 2 uberAmp:Parasound 1200 MK IISub:RBH 1010-SEP Speakers: Monitor 5A peerlesscurrently running some krk rokit 3g since the HK pre outs died and i need to start breaking everything down to move in a couple monthsHeadphones:Source: tidalDAC: schiit modius epre: schiit sysAmp: AQ dragonfly black/ schiit magni2 Cans: Velodyne V-True, Grado SR225i, sennheiser x drop gaming headsetPC:DAC: schiit modius e(over spdif)pre: schiit sysspeakers: prenous eris 5 xtSub: Earthquake Sound MiniMe-P63most of my comments are passing on of info, im a noob, im just trying to help how i can, if im wrong or out of place to comment, dont hesitate to let me know :)"WITH WILLING HEARTS AND SKILLFUL HANDS, THE DIFFICULT WE DO AT ONCE, THE IMPOSSIBLE TAKES A BIT LONGER, WITH COMPASSION FOR OTHERS. WE BUILD - WE FIGHT FOR PEACE WITH FREEDOM"Seabee Memorial, Arlington, VA
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