Whats with all the talk about Oppo BDP-83 ?

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  • Erik Tracy
    Erik Tracy Posts: 4,673
    edited July 2009
    Ern Dog wrote: »
    That was my guess. I was glad you switched the IC's just to take them out of the equation. Enjoy your new toy!

    Well, for me, it was somewhat a matter of preference and trade-off.

    To a casual listener, the difference in audio quality may not have been noticed or regarded as worth the effort (or perhaps even considered preconceived bias or delusional).

    I could hear a difference.... :D

    If it were possible - I'd create a sonic synthesis of the two players to tone down...just a tad...the forward nature of the Cambridge 640c, but leave its ability for detail intact.

    So, in the end, for me.....it was not really one vastly superior, but an overall consideration of all the categories of balance, depth, soundstage, detail, and accuracy. Balance would go to the Oppo. The others to the Cambridge.

    Just my afternoon ramblings....

    H9: If you don't trust what you are hearing, then maybe you need to be less invested in a hobby which all the pleasure comes from listening to music.
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  • vmaxer
    vmaxer Posts: 5,120
    edited July 2009
    Erik Tracy wrote: »
    Well, for me, it was somewhat a matter of preference and trade-off.

    To a casual listener, the difference in audio quality may not have been noticed or regarded as worth the effort (or perhaps even considered preconceived bias or delusional).

    I could hear a difference.... :D

    If it were possible - I'd create a sonic synthesis of the two players to tone down...just a tad...the forward nature of the Cambridge 640c, but leave its ability for detail intact.

    So, in the end, for me.....it was not really one vastly superior, but an overall consideration of all the categories of balance, depth, soundstage, detail, and accuracy. Balance would go to the Oppo. The others to the Cambridge.

    Just my afternoon ramblings....


    Did you compare the multi-channel output to the 2 channel??
    Pio Elete Pro 520
    Panamax 5400-EX
    Sunfire TGP 5
    Micro Seiki DD-40 - Lyra-Dorian and Denon DL-160
    PS Audio GCPH phono pre
    Sunfire CG 200 X 5
    Sunfire CG Sig 405 X 5
    OPPO BDP-83 SE
    SDA SRS 1.2TL Sonicaps and Mills
    Ctr CS1000p
    Sur - FX1000 x 4
    SUB - SVS PB2-Plus

    Workkout room:
    Sony Bravia XBR- 32-Inch 1080p
    Onkyo TX-DS898
    GFA 555
    Yamaha DVD-S1800BL/SACD
    Ft - SDA 1C

    Not being used:
    RTi 38's -4
    RT55i's - 2
    RT25i's -2, using other 2 in shop
    LSI 15's
    CSi40
    PSW 404
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  • Erik Tracy
    Erik Tracy Posts: 4,673
    edited July 2009
    vmaxer wrote: »
    Did you compare the multi-channel output to the 2 channel??

    I don't have enough ICs!! :p

    H9: If you don't trust what you are hearing, then maybe you need to be less invested in a hobby which all the pleasure comes from listening to music.
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  • Ron Temple
    Ron Temple Posts: 3,212
    edited July 2009
    Erik Tracy wrote: »
    I don't have enough ICs!! :p
    He meant take your ICs off the 2 channel outs and put them on the MCH L&R. Different DAC, op amps and voltage is 2v vs 2.4v. Also, I'm not sure why you don't turn HDMI audio off for the test and take the DVR out of the chain. To me, the dedicated 2 channel outs were bass heavy with the pre at neutral, as well as, louder (duh). Maybe, it was masking the midrange on your setup.

    Thanks for posting Erik...it's about what I expected, though I wouldn't call the Oppo warm...neutral sure.

    Combo rig:

    Onkyo NR1007 pre-pro, Carver TFM 45(fronts), Carver TFM 35 (surrounds)
    SDA 1C, CS400i, SDA 2B
    PB13Ultra RO
    BW Silvers
    Oppo BDP-83SE
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  • Erik Tracy
    Erik Tracy Posts: 4,673
    edited July 2009
    Ron Temple wrote: »
    He meant take your ICs off the 2 channel outs and put them on the MCH L&R. Different DAC, op amps and voltage is 2v vs 2.4v. Also, I'm not sure why you don't turn HDMI audio off for the test and take the DVR out of the chain. To me, the dedicated 2 channel outs were bass heavy with the pre at neutral, as well as, louder (duh). Maybe, it was masking the midrange on your setup.

    Thanks for posting Erik...it's about what I expected, though I wouldn't call the Oppo warm...neutral sure.


    I may try that, but I thought with MCH with only L&R that I'd loose full audio spectrum for the bass if that was not hooked up.

    I used the DVR connection only for the 2-channel connections - I don't have a DVR - was just using its inputs as a second set of connections for the Oppo.

    What speakers are you running?

    For this test in Pure Direct I didn't have my sub hooked up, so I only had my RTIA3s in the chain - bass heaviness is kinda hard to notice. :p

    H9: If you don't trust what you are hearing, then maybe you need to be less invested in a hobby which all the pleasure comes from listening to music.
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  • Ron Temple
    Ron Temple Posts: 3,212
    edited July 2009
    Erik Tracy wrote: »
    I may try that, but I thought with MCH with only L&R that I'd loose full audio spectrum for the bass if that was not hooked up.
    It should be channel to channel depending on the source. I've been doing it with no loss of signal. The 2 channel outs will automatically downmix MCH, but the MCH just plays what's sent.
    What speakers are you running?
    For this test in Pure Direct I didn't have my sub hooked up, so I only had my RTIA3s in the chain - bass heaviness is kinda hard to notice. :p

    1Cs...yes there's quite a difference. A3s can thump in the midbass. I'd be interested in your impressions of taking you AVR out of the chain entirely. Just connect your M1.0T directly to the Oppo. I'll bet you get a huge uptick in bass response. Taking the AVR out of my chain for 2 channel really improved my performance. It might not work with your Cambridge, but it will with the Oppo. Be sure to start with the volume at 0 ;):D

    Combo rig:

    Onkyo NR1007 pre-pro, Carver TFM 45(fronts), Carver TFM 35 (surrounds)
    SDA 1C, CS400i, SDA 2B
    PB13Ultra RO
    BW Silvers
    Oppo BDP-83SE
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  • vijayl
    vijayl Posts: 258
    edited August 2009
    I'm still holding back on BDP 83 - only reason is lak of IP capability for playing back Audio and Video.
    In my current setup,
    o SC07 doesnt play Video over IP
    o PS3 is used mainly as BDP and playing Videos (stored on Hard drives - HP Media storage) over IP
    I want to keep one player (for now PS3) and when Oppo comes with BDP 83N, I'll jump in it. Until then hands will be itchy..

    Living Room: 7.3: Samsung - LN52A750, Pioneer Elite SC07    , logitech 880
    Def Tech Mythos ST :D Fronts, Def Tech Mythos 10 Center, Def Tech BP-30 Surr, Def Tech Mythos GemXL SurrBack, MartinLogan Dynamo
    2Ch: Carver TL-3200 CD player, Carver CT-17 pre, Carver TFM-45 amp driving SDA-1C
    Bed Room: Pioneer Elite VSX-52 , Monitor 50

    Storage-RTi8,CSi5,PSW505,Monitor50
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  • kuntasensei
    kuntasensei Posts: 3,263
    edited August 2009
    I pulled the trigger on the Oppo this morning... along with two Nickel Creek SACDs and the Blu-Rays of Transformers, Iron Man, Wall-E, I Robot, Cars, Ratatouille, King Kong, Incredible Hulk, and A Bug's Life. It'll be here Friday, and I figure that'll give me a nice selection of stuff to play with over the weekend.
    Equipment list:
    Onkyo TX-NR3010 9.2 AVR
    Emotiva XPA-3 amp
    Polk RTi70 mains, CSi40 center, RTi38 surrounds, RTi28 rears and heights
    SVS 20-39CS+ subwoofer powered by Crown XLS1500
    Oppo BDP-93 Blu-ray player
    DarbeeVision DVP5000 video processor
    Epson 8500UB 1080p projector
    Elite Screens Sable 120" CineWhite screen
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  • Danny Tse
    Danny Tse Posts: 5,206
    edited September 2009
    Erik Tracy wrote: »
    Oppo BD-83 vs Cambridge 640c v2 Audio Death Match!

    No death matches needed as Cambridge Audio introduces its own Blu-ray player with SACD/DVD-A support for $699.00

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  • digitalvideo
    digitalvideo Posts: 983
    edited September 2009
    Any of you know the difference in picture quality between the Oppo and the new Cambridge Audio bd player above?
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  • digitalvideo
    digitalvideo Posts: 983
    edited September 2009
    They are selling a bunch of region free Oppo bdp-83's on Ebay that they claim play all dvd's from around the world and can be hooked up to any tv from around the world too...
    http://cgi.ebay.com/OPPO-BDP-83-Multi-Region-Code-Free-DVD-Blu-Ray-Player_W0QQitemZ330358107849QQcmdZViewItemQQptZDVD_Players_Recorders?hash=item4ceae0aec9&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

    http://shop.ebay.com/?_from=R40&_trksid=p3907.m38.l1311&_nkw=oppo+bdp-83&_sacat=See-All-Categories
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