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  • Lowell_M
    Lowell_M Posts: 1,660
    edited April 2009
    The RPA-1 review is the same. Worthless. They compared it to an AVR and bench tests.
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    CSi30 center
    RTi28 Rears
    Velodyne CHT-12
    H/K AVR-247
    ADCOM GFA-7000
    Samsung PN58B860
    Playstation 3
    2-Channel
    Polk Audio LSi15's
    Rotel RCD-1072
    Nakamichi CA-5 Pre
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  • Lowell_M
    Lowell_M Posts: 1,660
    edited April 2009
    here is another post for you then cnh. The review an audioholics support just what we have said here all along. The EMO amps are probably great if you are stepping up from an AVR, but they just don't have the finnesse of many of the preferred higher priced/quality amplifiers.
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    RTi70 mains
    CSi30 center
    RTi28 Rears
    Velodyne CHT-12
    H/K AVR-247
    ADCOM GFA-7000
    Samsung PN58B860
    Playstation 3
    2-Channel
    Polk Audio LSi15's
    Rotel RCD-1072
    Nakamichi CA-5 Pre
    ADCOM GFA-555
    Signal Cable Analog II IC's
    Signal Ultra Bi-Wire Speaker Cables
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,396
    edited April 2009
    The Emo amps have about as much finnesse as the recent trolls that have invaded.
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Puritan Audio PSM136 Pwr Condtioner & Classic PC's | Legend L600 | Roon Nucleus 1 w/LPS - Tubes add soul!
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  • cnh
    cnh Posts: 13,284
    edited April 2009
    Don't really disagree with you a_m,

    Emo amps occupy a place in the market. They're a direct buy company and their equipment is probably better than the price point they sell at. Any more claims than that is where you get your debates. I would assume that they are some sort of reverse engineering design--that copies/adds to some other original design. But that's just a guess.

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  • Lowell_M
    Lowell_M Posts: 1,660
    edited April 2009
    heiney9 wrote: »
    The Emo amps have about as much finnesse as the recent trolls that have invaded.

    Maybe a little more... The 125wpc amp DID sound better than a 40wpc AVR.
    HT
    RTi70 mains
    CSi30 center
    RTi28 Rears
    Velodyne CHT-12
    H/K AVR-247
    ADCOM GFA-7000
    Samsung PN58B860
    Playstation 3
    2-Channel
    Polk Audio LSi15's
    Rotel RCD-1072
    Nakamichi CA-5 Pre
    ADCOM GFA-555
    Signal Cable Analog II IC's
    Signal Ultra Bi-Wire Speaker Cables
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  • blakeh
    blakeh Posts: 491
    edited April 2009
    You guys are such haters... Emotiva rawks:

    Emotiva Official Site

    :D
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  • reeltrouble1
    reeltrouble1 Posts: 9,312
    edited April 2009
    I know for a fact that several Club Polk members were reverse engineered.

    RT1
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  • Lowell_M
    Lowell_M Posts: 1,660
    edited April 2009
    cnh wrote: »
    Don't really disagree with you a_m,

    Emo amps occupy a place in the market. They're a direct buy company and their equipment is probably better than the price point they sell at. Any more claims than that is where you get your debates. I would assume that they are some sort of reverse engineering design--that copies/adds to some other original design. But that's just a guess.

    cnh

    Yea. An EMO amp might be good for this guy.. http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=81904 since he has underpowered LSI's and isn't interested in spending a ton of $. As long as he doesn't get infected with the never ending quest for better sound that most of us have he will be ok and notice an improvement over the AVR.
    HT
    RTi70 mains
    CSi30 center
    RTi28 Rears
    Velodyne CHT-12
    H/K AVR-247
    ADCOM GFA-7000
    Samsung PN58B860
    Playstation 3
    2-Channel
    Polk Audio LSi15's
    Rotel RCD-1072
    Nakamichi CA-5 Pre
    ADCOM GFA-555
    Signal Cable Analog II IC's
    Signal Ultra Bi-Wire Speaker Cables
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  • devani
    devani Posts: 1,497
    edited April 2009
    I also like to post here just like you people to get my post counts numbers up....hell, it's great if you are trying to reach 25 post for classified limit this thread reaches that in a matter of few hours....

    +1 post for me
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  • blakeh
    blakeh Posts: 491
    edited April 2009
    Actually, in all honesty, I would consider an Emo for a HT setup. Then again, I am not all concerned about accurate sound reproduction in my home theater. I just bought a pair of TSi400s for my fronts, a pair of TSi300s for my rears, a CS20 center and a DSW Pro 400 sub. These will all be driven by a Denon AVR-2309CI. Compared to what I've been willing to spend on my 2-channel system, this gear is very modest.

    If I decided that the Denon was underpowering my speakers, I would definitely look into an Emo amp for a cheap, easy wattage boost. Quality wise, it seems about in line with the rest of my HT equipment.

    2-channel is a completely different story. Personally (and YMMV) I wouldn't let a Emo piece near my 2-channel system. But that's because I am obsessive about fidelity in my 2-channel system. As far as HT is concerned, I don't need to spend thousands of dollars so I can hear an explosion in perfect hi fidelity. I take no issue with people who spend a lot on the HT (I appreciate a good HT as much as anyone), but I'd rather spend my funds on 2-channel gear.

    Sorry for jacking this thread with real information! :D:D
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  • Lowell_M
    Lowell_M Posts: 1,660
    edited April 2009
    blakeh wrote: »
    Actually, in all honesty, I would consider an Emo for a HT setup. Then again, I am not all concerned about accurate sound reproduction in my home theater. I just bought a pair of TSi400s for my fronts, a pair of TSi300s for my rears, a CS20 center and a DSW Pro 400 sub. These will all be driven by a Denon AVR-2309CI. Compared to what I've been willing to spend on my 2-channel system, this gear is very modest.

    If I decided that the Denon was underpowering my speakers, I would definitely look into an Emo amp for a cheap, easy wattage boost. Quality wise, it seems about in line with the rest of my HT equipment.

    2-channel is a completely different story. Personally (and YMMV) I wouldn't let a Emo piece near my 2-channel system. But that's because I am obsessive about fidelity in my 2-channel system. As far as HT is concerned, I don't need to spend thousands of dollars so I can hear an explosion in perfect hi fidelity. I take no issue with people who spend a lot on the HT (I appreciate a good HT as much as anyone), but I'd rather spend my funds on 2-channel gear.

    Sorry for jacking this thread with real information! :D:D

    Don't you two have ANY ADCOM left in your blood? My HT is powered by the GFA-7000 and I wouldn't change a thing. Think I bought mine for $475 or something like that. Big difference over the H/K AVR and similar sound to the GFA-555.

    edit... oops.. shouldn't be so hard on your bro... He's rocking the 750 preamp now... forgot.
    HT
    RTi70 mains
    CSi30 center
    RTi28 Rears
    Velodyne CHT-12
    H/K AVR-247
    ADCOM GFA-7000
    Samsung PN58B860
    Playstation 3
    2-Channel
    Polk Audio LSi15's
    Rotel RCD-1072
    Nakamichi CA-5 Pre
    ADCOM GFA-555
    Signal Cable Analog II IC's
    Signal Ultra Bi-Wire Speaker Cables
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  • blakeh
    blakeh Posts: 491
    edited April 2009
    We're the two biggest ADCOM advocates on CP (with the possible exception of Ben)! I still have a GFA-585 in my office rig (for the time being) and an extra GFP-555 pre that's going up for sale in the FM soon.

    I love ADCOM and have had one of their pieces in my system for at least 15 years. Lately I've just been looking to take things to the next level and try some new gear.
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,396
    edited April 2009
    blakeh wrote: »
    Actually, in all honesty, I would consider an Emo for a HT setup. Then again, I am not all concerned about accurate sound reproduction in my home theater. I just bought a pair of TSi400s for my fronts, a pair of TSi300s for my rears, a CS20 center and a DSW Pro 400 sub. These will all be driven by a Denon AVR-2309CI. Compared to what I've been willing to spend on my 2-channel system, this gear is very modest.

    If I decided that the Denon was underpowering my speakers, I would definitely look into an Emo amp for a cheap, easy wattage boost. Quality wise, it seems about in line with the rest of my HT equipment.

    2-channel is a completely different story. Personally (and YMMV) I wouldn't let a Emo piece near my 2-channel system. But that's because I am obsessive about fidelity in my 2-channel system. As far as HT is concerned, I don't need to spend thousands of dollars so I can hear an explosion in perfect hi fidelity. I take no issue with people who spend a lot on the HT (I appreciate a good HT as much as anyone), but I'd rather spend my funds on 2-channel gear.

    Sorry for jacking this thread with real information! :D:D

    No, I don't think you would. You could buy really nice used gear for less and it would even sound better.
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Puritan Audio PSM136 Pwr Condtioner & Classic PC's | Legend L600 | Roon Nucleus 1 w/LPS - Tubes add soul!
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  • blakeh
    blakeh Posts: 491
    edited April 2009
    No, I don't think you would. You could buy really nice used gear for less and it would even sound better.

    I said I would seriously consider an Emo in the event that I wanted a wattage boost for my HT. I would certainly look at all options. Still, having five channels @ 200W into 8ohms in one chassis for $799 is appealing for the level of fidelity I expect out of my HT.

    Then again, three ADCOM 555s could be had for around $900 and would probably do a nice job as well!
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  • Lowell_M
    Lowell_M Posts: 1,660
    edited April 2009
    blakeh wrote: »
    We're the two biggest ADCOM advocates on CP (with the possible exception of Ben)! I still have a GFA-585 in my office rig (for the time being) and an extra GFP-555 pre that's going up for sale in the FM soon.

    I love ADCOM and have had one of their pieces in my system for at least 15 years. Lately I've just been looking to take things to the next level and try some new gear.

    Phew... i feel better now. Um... let me know if you want to do anything with that 585.
    HT
    RTi70 mains
    CSi30 center
    RTi28 Rears
    Velodyne CHT-12
    H/K AVR-247
    ADCOM GFA-7000
    Samsung PN58B860
    Playstation 3
    2-Channel
    Polk Audio LSi15's
    Rotel RCD-1072
    Nakamichi CA-5 Pre
    ADCOM GFA-555
    Signal Cable Analog II IC's
    Signal Ultra Bi-Wire Speaker Cables
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,396
    edited April 2009
    blakeh wrote: »
    No, I don't think you would. You could buy really nice used gear for less and it would even sound better.

    I said I would seriously consider an Emo in the event that I wanted a wattage boost for my HT. I would certainly look at all options. Still, having five channels @ 200W into 8ohms in one chassis for $799 is appealing for the level of fidelity I expect out of my HT.

    Then again, three ADCOM 555s could be had for around $900 and would probably do a nice job as well!

    Or a used 3 or 5 channel Adcom or Rotel or........any of those are better choices than Emo, IMHBO. (in my humble brotherly opinion).
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Puritan Audio PSM136 Pwr Condtioner & Classic PC's | Legend L600 | Roon Nucleus 1 w/LPS - Tubes add soul!
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  • blakeh
    blakeh Posts: 491
    edited April 2009
    Yeah, but I'm only powering some TSi series speakers. If I were running LSis, I would probably not even consider the Emo and get right into some ADCOM gear. But, again, for what the rest of my HT consists of, I think the Emo would fit in well.
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  • cnh
    cnh Posts: 13,284
    edited April 2009
    I'm temporarily powering a set of M70s with an Adcom with a Denon AVR as a pre/pro and you'd be surprised what a difference that makes over the Denon which is a nice piece and supposedly has plenty of POWER to handle M-series speakers!

    cnh
    Currently orbiting Bowie's Blackstar.!

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  • Ricardo
    Ricardo Posts: 10,636
    edited April 2009
    Just an update for all of you guys that are so interested in my situation here. I am already on my 176th unit, and still not satisfied. I am sending this one back still sealed in the box. It has a sticker that says "open other side", but the box is too heavy and I can't move it. EMO should have directed UPS to deliver the box in the right position. I don't care if they did and this is UPS's fault. I'll let them decide who's at fault here, but I am starting to think UPS has something to do with all these EMO QA issues. They must be making a fortune out of all these return shipments.
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  • cnh
    cnh Posts: 13,284
    edited April 2009
    You should try Fed Ex. Never had a problem with them...but I suspect it's not them but the double boxing from the shipper? I've never ordered an Emo so I can't comment on how they're boxed and shipped. But then again...176th unit? Good one.

    cnh
    Currently orbiting Bowie's Blackstar.!

    Polk Lsi-7s, Def Tech 8" sub, HK 3490, HK HD 990 (CDP/DAC), AKG Q701s
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,396
    edited April 2009
    If anyone deserves satisfaction Ricardo, it's you :D. Good luck ol' boy, and I hope you don't have to go Postal on their ****.
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Puritan Audio PSM136 Pwr Condtioner & Classic PC's | Legend L600 | Roon Nucleus 1 w/LPS - Tubes add soul!
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  • Ricardo
    Ricardo Posts: 10,636
    edited April 2009
    cnh wrote: »
    You should try Fed Ex. Never had a problem with them...but I suspect it's not them but the double boxing from the shipper? I've never ordered an Emo so I can't comment on how they're boxed and shipped. But then again...176th unit? Good one.

    cnh

    Wow, never thought of that one. Now I know why they were so mad when I returned unit number 118th. When I opened the box, all I saw inside was.....ANOTHER BOX!!!!:mad:
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  • reeltrouble1
    reeltrouble1 Posts: 9,312
    edited April 2009
    so did you pay for the returns?

    RT1
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  • megasat16
    megasat16 Posts: 3,521
    edited April 2009
    BOYS! THE CABLE THREAD HAS OFFICIALLY TAKEN OVER OUR WORLD CLASS THREAD BY 8 POST AT THIS TIME!

    How the HELL in the world you guys allow things like that to happen? I am going to make my EMU a stuff EMU!
    Trying out Different Audio Cables is a Religious Affair. You don't discuss it with anyone. :redface::biggrin:
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  • cnh
    cnh Posts: 13,284
    edited April 2009
    megasat16 wrote: »
    BOYS! THE CABLE THREAD HAS OFFICIALLY TAKEN OVER OUR WORLD CLASS THREAD BY 8 POST AT THIS TIME!

    How the HELL in the world you guys allow things like that to happen? I am going to make my EMU a stuff EMU!

    You're right we have to ramp this up a bit.

    cnh
    Currently orbiting Bowie's Blackstar.!

    Polk Lsi-7s, Def Tech 8" sub, HK 3490, HK HD 990 (CDP/DAC), AKG Q701s
    [sig. changed on a monthly basis as I rotate in and out of my stash]
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  • polkatese
    polkatese Posts: 6,767
    edited April 2009
    can't let that happen.. (I've got nothing better to do right now)...there. An extra post!
    I am sorry, I have no opinion on the matter. I am sure you do. So, don't mind me, I just want to talk audio and pie.
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  • cnh
    cnh Posts: 13,284
    edited April 2009
    Bump

    cnh
    Currently orbiting Bowie's Blackstar.!

    Polk Lsi-7s, Def Tech 8" sub, HK 3490, HK HD 990 (CDP/DAC), AKG Q701s
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  • Jeb85
    Jeb85 Posts: 39
    edited April 2009
    Are these amps worth the money?
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  • cnh
    cnh Posts: 13,284
    edited April 2009
    I assume that's an honest question there, because on this thread you can't tell. If you read through all of this you'll see more than a few Polkies who think they 'are' and run them, mostly for Home Theater.

    cnh
    Currently orbiting Bowie's Blackstar.!

    Polk Lsi-7s, Def Tech 8" sub, HK 3490, HK HD 990 (CDP/DAC), AKG Q701s
    [sig. changed on a monthly basis as I rotate in and out of my stash]
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  • Jeb85
    Jeb85 Posts: 39
    edited April 2009
    lol i run Parasound and love it. i was just trying to feed the fire(seemed like the right thing to do at the time)
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