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  • cnh
    cnh Posts: 13,284
    edited March 2009
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    vmaxer wrote: »
    :o:oWell don't I feel stupid....I was at the bottom of page 31, at post 930 when I responded...I didn't notice there were more pages... It was early and I was still sleepy. Now I must go back a few pages and catch up!:D

    I will pay closer attention in the future...:)

    So,,goin' for 2000??

    2001? An EmOdyssey! Part II of the Greatest Story Ever told! I'm there!

    cnh
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  • vmaxer
    vmaxer Posts: 5,124
    edited March 2009
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    Well...where did everyone go??
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  • Systems
    Systems Posts: 14,872
    edited March 2009
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    vmaxer wrote: »
    Well...where did everyone go??

    They should be back soon now that the Carver thread has been delegated to the HOS.
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  • mmadden28
    mmadden28 Posts: 4,283
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    Wow, that's a record 2+ days without a post in this thread. :rolleyes:
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  • broncsrule21@
    broncsrule21@ Posts: 113
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    GV#27 wrote: »
    They should be back soon now that the Carver thread has been delegated to the HOS.

    Whats does HOS and STFU stand for?:D

    And that thread was just getting interesting.....
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited March 2009
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    HOS = Hall of Shame (area in the Polk archives)
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  • Ron Temple
    Ron Temple Posts: 3,212
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    hearingimpared wrote: »
    HOS = Hall of Shame (area in the Polk archives)

    Is that where the Tasteful Babe thread is locked up? I better check that out :p:D.

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  • zombie boy 2000
    zombie boy 2000 Posts: 6,641
    edited March 2009
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    What's up guys? Anything going on here?
    I never had it like this where I grew up. But I send my kids here because the fact is you go to one of the best schools in the country: Rushmore. Now, for some of you it doesn't matter. You were born rich and you're going to stay rich. But here's my advice to the rest of you: Take dead aim on the rich boys. Get them in the crosshairs and take them down. Just remember, they can buy anything but they can't buy backbone. Don't let them forget it. Thank you.Herman Blume - Rushmore
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
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    Ron Temple wrote: »
    Is that where the Tasteful Babe thread is locked up? I better check that out :p:D.

    Indeed it is.
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 33,077
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    Too bad Paddy's Day has passed,we could have talked patrick into releasing the TBT thread from the depths of hell.
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  • cnh
    cnh Posts: 13,284
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    I was starting to worry that that underwater volcano cable thread was going to overtake Ricardo's. Was also wondering if anyone plans to 'save' this thread from tomorrow's supposed VIRUS attack??

    cnh
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,711
    edited April 2009
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    Please discuss..............


    03-14-09: Nypr2003
    I have just purchased from Emotiva the RSP-2 Preamp,XPA-2 stereo amp and their ERT-8.3 Reference Tower Speakers and after 5 days of breakin in the whole system all I can say is "WOW", "Unbelievable","REMARKABLE".

    I used to own a Parasound Halo system consisting of their famous stereophile class A rated JC1 Monoblocks,their A51 5 channel amplifier,A21 Stereo amp and their C1 processor and I used to think that after trying the FPB Krell's and other High end amps or Preamps I though that there was nothing else better than the Halos within that price range over $15K plus.

    I sold my system last year because of lack of time due to my job. I felt that there was no reason to keep such a nice system in my house since I was not using it. So I sold it here on Audiogon and decided that later on I will get more or less the same system when I have more time to be able to enjoy it.

    Well the time is here now and I started looking to put together a very nice system again and the first thing that came to mind was Parasound Halo Line again. That was until I came across the Emotiva Products website.

    I spent quite amount of time reading about their products specially their preamps and amps. I did a side by side comparison of the Parasound Halos amps and the Emotiva amps. The Emotiva amps seem to be much better amps than the Halos exept for the fact that the Halos are THX certified and used a MOSFET driver stage and JFET input stage as opposed to Emotiva using a Triple Darlington with ON semiconductor output stages. Besides the Emotiva amps offer more power than the Halos.

    I know what most of you all will say. That's just in the specs! It's the sound that matters! Yes, you are right and I will get to that in a minute.

    Being quite familiar with the Halos since I owned them for almost 2 years and was very happy with their warmth and neutral sound I think that qialifies me to make a very good comparison.

    Now going back to the Emotiva RSP-2 Preamp and their XPA-2 stereo amplifier. As I said before after giving them around 5 days of a good break-in period of about 16 hours a day I decided to sit down for a good listening session.

    First let me say that the RSP-2 is one of the most analog sounding preamps I have ever come across. In the past have auditioned or owned many Preamps such as ,BAT tube Preamps,Classe,Proceed,Parasound Halo,Rotel,Adcom,McIntosh and Musical Fidelity and none of these Preamps have sounded as analog as the Emotiva RSP-2 Preamp. How these people at Emotiva do it its beyond me. Besides being a great sounding preamp it is a beautiful unit. It has so many features that it is hard to believe that for the price of $699 you can get features that you can only get at Preamps costing over 3 to 6 times more. The performance of the Emotiva RSP-2 Preamp is so good that you can only get this kind of performance in preamps costing way over $3K+ or more. I highly recommend this Preamp. It's really that good. in fact I had my eyes set on a Parasound JC2 Preamp and I am so glad that I didn't buy. Now I am extremely happy with my Emotiva RSP-2.

    Now the XPA-2 Stereo Amplifier. What a beautiful looking unit! The Sound? Oustanding! Warmth,Neutral,Extremely Analog Sounding.Not a hint of brightness. Powerfull! Powerfull Powerfull! It has the same sound as the Halos JC1's but with more extension and more dynamics of the FPB of the Krells and still analog sounding. Between the Emotiva RSP-2 Preamp and the XPA-2 Amp it is a marriage made in heaven. It's the perfect combination.

    And the ERT-8.3. Reference Speakers. Do not let the price fool you. These speakers delivered one of the most natural and clear sounds that I have only be able to hear in speakers costing over $5K+. I have owned them so I know that it will be impossible to hear a pair of $1600 speakers sound this good. But how wrong I have been. These are truly Reference Speakers.The bass extension is remarkable.I don't even need a subwoofer.Emotiva rates these speakers at Frequency response: 45hz-20Khz +/-2db byt trust me these speakers go way lower than 45hz.

    Emotiva is coming out with a new Reference CD player, the ERC-1 and I have put myself on their waiting list. I know that it will be an outstanding Cd player.

    Emotiva has put together a "True Reference" Line of products that proves that you can still obtain "High End Performance" without paying "High End Prices". I used to be one of the many believers that had the mentality that you needed to pay top money to get a top high end performance equipment. Guess what? Not Any more.

    Emotiva has proved me wrong and.. I Stand Corrected"

    Best regards to all,


    I found this on-line. Sort of a lofty review............wouldn't you say ;)
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | Galion TS P75 Pre | Holo Audio Cyan 2 Dac | MIT Shotgun S1 | Puritan Audio PSM136 Pwr Condtioner & Classic PC's | Legend L600 | Roon Nucleus 1 w/LPS - Tubes add soul!
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  • mmadden28
    mmadden28 Posts: 4,283
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    heiney9 wrote: »
    Please discuss..............


    I found this on-line. Sort of a lofty review............wouldn't you say ;)

    I agree-way over the top.
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  • shack
    shack Posts: 11,154
    edited April 2009
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    Another EMU fanboy with a totally unbiased reveiw.

    Those EMU boys are totally kicking John Curl's ****....:rolleyes:
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  • shack
    shack Posts: 11,154
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    BTW...EMU CS will still not take my calls.
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  • comfortablycurt
    comfortablycurt Posts: 6,745
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    Wow...that was a way over the top review. I'm having trouble even believing that this is real...sounds like an Emo executives cousin got some free products in exchange for a ridiculously glowing review to me...lol

    Shack-sorry to hear about your bad luck. Perhaps if you persist with your choice to not purchase any Emotiva products they'll start taking you more seriously.;)
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  • moe
    moe Posts: 48
    edited April 2009
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    There are none so blind as those who refuse to see.Sure pie is ok,I've had some damn good pie,but cake(are the ones at Dairy Queen really cake?) Who knows? but it's pretty frikin' good.
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  • shack
    shack Posts: 11,154
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    comfortablycurt wrote:
    Shack-sorry to hear about your bad luck. Perhaps if you persist with your choice to not purchase any Emotiva products they'll start taking you more seriously.;)

    I was only trying to be nice and let them know I would not be ordering any EMO gear....just in case they were holding something for me.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 52,406
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    Please discuss..............


    03-14-09: Nypr2003
    I have just purchased from Emotiva the RSP-2 Preamp,XPA-2 stereo amp and their ERT-8.3 Reference Tower Speakers and after 5 days of breakin in the whole system all I can say is "WOW", "Unbelievable","REMARKABLE".

    You can read more comments/reviews here, http://forum.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/fr_memb.pl?&&memb&zzNypr2003

    I've actually communicated with Carlos in the past, he has owned what he says he has. I'd have to say he's a tad excitable and seems to run thru a lot of gear. Perhaps he couldn't resist the Kool-Aid.
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,711
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    F1nut wrote: »
    You can read more comments/reviews here, http://forum.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/fr_memb.pl?&&memb&zzNypr2003

    I've actually communicated with Carlos in the past, he has owned what he says he has. I'd have to say he's a tad excitable and seems to run thru a lot of gear. Perhaps he couldn't resist the Kool-Aid.

    5 days seems like a very short time period to be making such lofty claims. I was surprised to see such an "over the top" review so I thought I'd post it. Yes, it is from Audiogon. Many times initial impressions are way off base; both positively and negatively. I had things that sounded way off initially but after spending a couple months with it, I did a complete 180; same for an initial positive impression.

    One other nitpik is he says he compares them side by side with the JC1's except then he states he sold those amps over a year ago :confused:.

    Anyway thought I'd bump this thread for Ricardo as we don't want the spearker cable thread to over take the EMU thread. ;)

    H9
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  • Marty913
    Marty913 Posts: 760
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    F1nut wrote: »
    I'd have to say he's a tad excitable and seems to run thru a lot of gear. Perhaps he couldn't resist the Kool-Aid.

    For some people in this hobby, it's the sound of the music that brings tears of joy to their eyes. For others it's the sound of the UPS truck pulling up out front. Nothing really wrong with that but I rather read reviews from the former and not the later.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 52,406
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    5 days seems like a very short time period to be making such lofty claims.

    I couldn't agree more, hence my comments.
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  • dkg999
    dkg999 Posts: 5,647
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    Folks, when it's "world class" gear maybe you don't need no stink'in 5 days to know it's the best? I'm just say'in!
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  • Systems
    Systems Posts: 14,872
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    Reading between the lines I get the idea he kind'a likes it.Hopefully it will stay working for him.
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  • comfortablycurt
    comfortablycurt Posts: 6,745
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    shack wrote: »
    I was only trying to be nice and let them know I would not be ordering any EMO gear....just in case they were holding something for me.

    If you'd like, I could give them a call later on. Just to let them know that you won't be purchasing any of their products. I've gotta give them a call anyway, just to let them know that I've decided to purchase products from another company and won't be purchasing anything from them.
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  • shack
    shack Posts: 11,154
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    comfortablycurt wrote:
    If you'd like, I could give them a call later on. Just to let them know that you won't be purchasing any of their products. I've gotta give them a call anyway, just to let them know that I've decided to purchase products from another company and won't be purchasing anything from them.

    That's fine...but they probably won't believe it unless they hear it directly from me...but it's worth a shot.
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  • Lowell_M
    Lowell_M Posts: 1,660
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    dkg999 wrote: »
    Folks, when it's "world class" gear maybe you don't need no stink'in 5 days to know it's the best? I'm just say'in!

    lucky for him, its World Reference Class...
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  • comfortablycurt
    comfortablycurt Posts: 6,745
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    shack wrote: »
    That's fine...but they probably won't believe it unless they hear it directly from me...but it's worth a shot.

    Well, I tried calling them. As soon as I started explaining to them that neither you or myself would be purchasing any products from them at any point, for any reason, they hung up on me.

    Absolutely terrible customer service. My choice to not purchase any Emotiva gear continues.
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    Parasound Halo P5 preamp
    Parasound HCA-1200II power amp
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    Audioquest Speaker Cables and IC's
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  • MikeC78
    MikeC78 Posts: 2,315
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    They seriously did that?? Wow.

    That's true world class customer service right there...
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  • cnh
    cnh Posts: 13,284
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    I would like to thank Ricardo and everyone else above for helping me decide which 2 channel power amp to purchase. I bypassed the Emu farm for an Adcom GFA-555 (N.Pass design). Add me to the no call list.

    cnh
    Currently orbiting Bowie's Blackstar.!

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