This forum. Moderator?

jaxwired

I'm new to this forum, but not at all new to internet message boads. It occurs to me that this forum would benefit from some type of formal moderator. In the short time I've been participating I've seen quite a few posts with personal attacks, profanity, and lots of childish comments. I'm not talking about spirited debate here. I encourgage spirited debate and I think it makes the forum better. I'm talking about a level of civility that is not present. A vigilant moderator while occassionally annoying, can make all the difference. I've seen this work on other sites.

If polk cannot provide full time moderators,they should appoint frequent posters to the position. If they already have, I have seen no signs of it and the existing moderators should be replaced or raise their standards.

One final thought, I'm not posting this to attack anyone in particular. I'm just suggesting that this forum could be a better experience for everyone if we raised the bar. It might attract even more regular visitors as well. I've no doubt that the coarse nature of some posts is a turn off to many new comers.

wutadumsn23

While I agree that there is quite a bit of bickering on here from time to time I also know that the Mods here do the best they can with it. Patrick, Ken, Kim, Josh and others are on here often and do the best they can to flush the garbage. Having said that, self moderation on this site goes a long way, like my Mommy used to tell me, if you can't say anything nice to someone, say something bad to them on the Intraweb. Or something like that.

-Jeff

Ricardo

It's perfectly fine as it is.

tonyb

Yes, we have mods, and they are around frequently,only you never know because they are not labeled as such.

Here's the thing....while I can see your point, most the time it's newcommers who start ****. To let it go unanswered would be tragic to this forum. They either man up,or leave. We kinda like it that way. Whats the point of doubling the member count if most are going to be bozo's? I think we welcome all newbs with respect untill they prove unworthy of it, which alot of times, happens to be the case. They may go to audioholics or some other board,and thats ok because we don't want to be like those forums. I can agree that even the most seasoned member here can be out of line from time to time, but thats life, deal with it. Mods usually step in by way of Pm's, and if thats not enough,banned. They give us a certain amount of rope to either work it out,or hang ourselves, we appreciate that.

halo71

^ I agree. If certain people can't accept the harsh reality as the way it is. Then they shouldn't ask questions they are not ready to accept an answer for. I do agree that there are certain people here that seem to try and stir the pot. But I think those are or will be dealt with.

nooshinjohn

This is not an attack on you personally, but when you post things like this....

jaxwired wrote: »

I wish I could keep arguing, but that would require that someone make a sane, or at least semi-lucid rebuttal to any of my many excellent points. That doesn't seem to happen here... Oh well... It was fun for awhile. Thanks ladies..

... bad things are bound to happen.

This post would seem to invite others to come after you as it is red meat in the water to the sharks that inhabit these waters.

CP is a great place for exactly the reasons you seem opposed to. They allow us to be who we are and accept the diversity of everyone here. When needed, they do an excellent job of stepping in. The fact that they keep in the shadows for the most part is a testament to just how "family-like" this community has become. Keep up the great work Patrick C & Co.

lightman1

I've been trying to get banned for three years. No such luck......yet.
Plus, Patrick is my main squeeze.;)

reeltrouble1

Ricardo wrote: »

It's perfectly fine as it is.

I heard though you are listed as a person of interest involving the disappearance of a certain lomanoco...........

RT1

Knucklehead

reeltrouble1 wrote: »

I heard though you are listed as a person of interest involving the disappearance of a certain lomanoco...........

RT1

I was wondering what happened to him?????? We do have La-keiko!

Ricardo

reeltrouble1 wrote: »

I heard though you are listed as a person of interest involving the disappearance of a certain lomanoco...........

RT1

Yup. Still waiting for you to paypal me your portion of the deal.

jaxwired

Just a suggestion. I hope the powers that be will at least consider the merits of more active moderation. People will fall into line quickly if a new standard of decorum is enforced. I've seen it elsewhere.

I don't think I'm alone in wanting to add a smidge more civility.

NJPOLKER

Your alone but don't be afraid we are here to protect you

tonyb

NJPOLKER wrote: »

Your alone but don't be afraid we are here to protect you

Priceless !!! LOL !!

jaxwired

NJPolker and tonyb, the problem is that sacarstic one liners are so easy to make and actually make for some pretty boring reading.

NJPOLKER

jaxwired wrote: »

NJPolker and tonyb, the problem is that sacarstic one liners are so easy to make and actually make for some pretty boring reading.

Do you mean something like what you just did?

You funny

NJPOLKER

Nice. Now thats one word and I am not being sarcastic. How do they sound. This is a better subject than your original post.
Dynaudio Contour S1.4

Ricardo

jaxwired wrote: »

NJPolker and tonyb, the problem is that sacarstic one liners are so easy to make and actually make for some pretty boring reading.

No one is forcing you to read.

NJPOLKER wrote: »

Dynaudio Contour S1.4

I'll take the 1.3 Mk II's, thanks.

TNRabbit

Too many cooks make BLAND forums~

lightman1

Hey jax. There is an amount of moderation here. As said before, they're just not out in the open as some other forums. I've been here a while and let me be the first to say, they WILL hand out infractions. I have some.:o
But on the other hand, I have met some great people here and consider many of them good friends. Some will bend over backwards to help others.
Most of what you see here is just words on a monitor. It's the GTG's, the PF's or just two Polkies hanging out on a Saturday listening to music and fiddling with their gear.
If you want to be a part of that, relax and listen to what others have to say. If not you may be losing out on a few new friends and a wealth of information.
We're not ALL bad people. Just some of us....like me.....and NJ.

cstmar01

jaxwired wrote: »

NJPolker and tonyb, the problem is that sacarstic one liners are so easy to make and actually make for some pretty boring reading.

I myself find it to be the opposite, makes for a more interesting read.

To the OP, I've never had a problem with anything, yet again, I don't try to debate everyone in an open forum. Your mad because of what people said in a thread, thats fine, but it doesn't mean that you have to say we need better mods. If you wanted debate you got debate, but its not always going to be pretty and its not always going to be clean. In real policy debate your not supposed to sit when reading cross examination arguments, but you know what people still do. People on the internet are not supposed to swear in an open forum but they still do.

As long as a person is calling you a nasty words, or making racial comments, or purposely trying to offend someone, then let it be. The mods take care of things and weed people out. Swearing happens, and also don't try to go pick a fight, because you will get one with people.

ben62670

I think they handle it quit well. You choose to show your character and you are not well received. This also lets people know that this is a family here. Some get it and some don't. Some trolls do need a warning about baiting.

jaxwired

cstmar01,

I'm not mad at all. It is what it is. I think the forum would be better and have more diverse and more interesting posters if the standards were raised. That's my perspecitive as a new member.

Since the standards are pretty low and I've seen zero moderation so far, I have two basic choices if I continue to post on the forum. On possibly strategy is to just ignore the childish sacastic and sometimes profane posts. I admit that this is a hard strategy to consistently employ. Especially as their is a bit of a clique here and sacastic one liners are often followed by juvenile encouragement like "good one", "hilarious, hahaha", "that ones a classic".

OR, I can get down in the muck myself and engage in the same type of posting. Something I can be very good at. But, thinking about it, is that what I really want to spend my time doing? Posting childish and sarcastic one liners? Nope.

cnh

Yes there are mods....yes, if you do what cstmar01 says above you'll get banned. And I encourage you to search the over 1 million posts on this site before one starts making assessments of what the Polk site looks like and what it doesn't.

I should add that you, yourself, have been given a lot of breathing room here. It seems to me that it takes a while to learn the cultural expectations of any particular group. And that things at Polk are in no great danger of needing moral guidance from any of 'us'.

The great ethical masters of the world are NOT posting on Club Polk. Unless a chosen one has arisen from the web to guide us to the Pure Land of Audio Forums.

cnh

wayne3burk

jaxwired -- If no one else posts a reply after your last comment... then you get the last word... and this thread dies a slow quick death of it's own volition.

or am i wrong?

pearsall001

jaxwired wrote: »

I'm new to this forum, but not at all new to internet message boads. It occurs to me that this forum would benefit from some type of formal moderator. In the short time I've been participating I've seen quite a few posts with personal attacks, profanity, and lots of childish comments. I'm not talking about spirited debate here. I encourgage spirited debate and I think it makes the forum better. I'm talking about a level of civility that is not present. A vigilant moderator while occassionally annoying, can make all the difference. I've seen this work on other sites.

If polk cannot provide full time moderators,they should appoint frequent posters to the position. If they already have, I have seen no signs of it and the existing moderators should be replaced or raise their standards.

One final thought, I'm not posting this to attack anyone in particular. I'm just suggesting that this forum could be a better experience for everyone if we raised the bar. It might attract even more regular visitors as well. I've no doubt that the coarse nature of some posts is a turn off to many new comers.

You're absolutely right, a lot of the BS nonsense here wouldn't be tolerated in the slightest on other forums, those clowns would be long gone. But it is what it is & won't change. It's still a fun place with a lot of good info being passed around. You just have to sift thru the crap & try to decifer what you deem as viable information, & there's a lot of it here.

concealer404

I actually find there to be far less crap than pretty much any other forum i've ever been a part of. Guess i've been hanging around in the wrong circles, huh?

reeltrouble1

cstmar01 wrote: »

People on the internet are not supposed to swear in an open forum but they still do.

can you say **** alligator on a forum??????

I heard Buddy Hackett say it on HBO, you know the hobo channel??? he was picking on this rather prudish looking older lady, I'd say about 58-60, very prim and proper, you know with a hat, cocked just so on top of brown curled hair, dark blue white lace blouse and jacket, shin length skirt, thick stockings, 5' 6" about 160, she had a front row seat.....anyway, she is turning beat red as Hackett is cussing a storm in his act, he notices her and says.....hey lady, she turns away and hides her face behind her hanky, he just stares at her, she gets so flustered, wiggles and squiggles about in her seat, finally, looks up at Hackett, who standing there with this dumbfounded look on his face about this woman.......and just blurts.....

Lemme hear you Say **** alligator..........

well maybe you had to be there...

RT1

heiney9

Ricardo wrote: »

It's perfectly fine as it is.

+1000.

Jax, it's not needed, nor necessary. If you are bothered by it, either move along or deal with it. Simple really. Sorry my answer is to the point, but this has been discussed before, usually by a newcomer who hasn't even spent enough time here to understand what this site is all about.

H9

Face

Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

heiney9

jaxwired wrote: »

Just a suggestion. I hope the powers that be will at least consider the merits of more active moderation. People will fall into line quickly if a new standard of decorum is enforced. I've seen it elsewhere.

I don't think I'm alone in wanting to add a smidge more civility.

So because YOU think some are out of line then the mods are supposed to follow YOUR recommendation. Who are you? Why do you get to dictate what happens here? What have you contributed to the community so far?

Again, if your bothered there are hundreds of other audio based discussion boards out there. Why do noobs come here and within two weeks think this place should be something different?

H9

lightman1

I love Brock.