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WilliamM2 wrote:If you don't know the answer, just say so. No need to be embarrased, Troll.I find associating performance with price to be ridiculous, and in in the case of audio, absurd.
I have about $6K in speakers, and $3K in the amps that power them. Doesn't mean I wouldn't be open to trying less expensive amps.
Looks like you may have answered your own question. So what are you talking about now?I don't read the newsssspaperssss because dey aaaallllllllll...... have ugly print.
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I don't understand why this is such a hotly debated topic. If people are running emo amps and like the way it sounds thats all that matters. You also have to consider that if EMO amps were sold in stores they would cost roughly twice as much putting their price closer to many other mainstream amps.
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William,
The cost ratio for speaker to electronics is about 1:1 to 1:10 in most cases. The 10K speakers driven with 1/10 of the electronics needs to go a little further down the road and find where the rabbit hole is....
I don't know if you can skimp on electronics unless all electronics sound the same.
Trying out Different Audio Cables is a Religious Affair. You don't discuss it with anyone. :redface::biggrin: -
Lou,
I would suggest to you that having eclectic tastes doesn't necessarily make the argument that you have an optimal setup. I would suggest that you simply are NOT getting the most for your money.
10k speakers deserve premium amplification. Not only that, in my experience, they require it in order to function correctly.
/.02-Kevin
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Today I hooked up a Cambridge Audio integrated amp to my Arcam CD72. The CA replaced my Belles amp and Anthem pre-amp. I did this because I wanted to hear it and I left my Anthem somewhere last night. The CA is a nice IA (A500) and worth a couple hundred. The Belles and Anthem combo is worth around $2,000.
Oh my god the difference is sound quality is tremendous. It's not because of the money entirely but you have to spend to have high performance parts inside of your components. I think even Willy would understand that, I hope.
By the way I think for a little integrated amp the Cambridge Audio A500 would be hard to beat but it's just far far far outclassed by the Belles/Anthem combo.
Lou I bet it does sound better than the Denon and I am not saying your system has any faults. One day when you make the next step up the ladder or further into the rabbit hole you'll say something similar about the Emovita vs whatever it will be. Good Luck -
I find associating performance with price to be ridiculous, and in in the case of audio, absurd.
I have about $6K in speakers, and $3K in the amps that power them. Doesn't mean I wouldn't be open to trying less expensive amps.
So if one component is at one extreme and several others are at another extreme you don't find that a little odd?
I suppose when you buy a brand new Ferrari you take it to Walmart to get the tires that are on special sale. Right?
It's absurd!
Let me add, IMO
H9"Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Puritan Audio PSM136 Pwr Condtioner & Classic PC's | Legend L600 | Roon Nucleus 1 w/LPS - Tubes add soul! -
If you don't know the answer, just say so. No need to be embarrased, Troll.
You have not figured it out yet, wow you are slow. There is no formula, there I said it. Feel better? Damn you are dumb
By the way Willy I don't dislike you or anything but find you seem to troll-up every thread. Good luck -
I don't understand why this is such a hotly debated topic. If people are running emo amps and like the way it sounds thats all that matters. You also have to consider that if EMO amps were sold in stores they would cost roughly twice as much putting their price closer to many other mainstream amps.
In general the EMO owners believe too much of the hype. I have heard the XPA2 and 5. Both amps are an excellent deal for their price, but EMO and their owners tend to go a bit overboard about how great the amps are. That is what is laughable.Please. Please contact me a ben62670 @ yahoo.com. Make sure to include who you are, and you are from Polk so I don't delete your email. Also I am now physically unable to work on any projects. If you need help let these guys know. There are many people who will help if you let them know where you are.
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Ben -
Thanks for the chatter, guys (and gals -- can't tell genders on online forums )!
You know, right now, I am quite happy with my setup. I understand that it appears odd to have my amp powering my speakers, but why? All companies started out somewhere. Apple, B&W, McIntosh, Classe, Ford. They did not magically become who they are today. The Internet has made it easier for some companies to get a broader reach.
Maybe one day, I will take it to another level, but for now, I'm going to sit back, enjoy my Blu-rays, listen to my music, and relax. -
You have not figured it out yet, wow you are slow. There is no formula, there I said it. Feel better? Damn you are dumb
By the way Willy I don't dislike you or anything but find you seem to troll-up every thread. Good luck
So if there is no formula, than maybe, just maybe mind you, he could be perfectly happy with his $800 amp.
Calling anyone with a difference of opinion a troll is getting really old, maybe that's why I do dislike you. No matter. -
So if there is no formula, than maybe, just maybe mind you, he could be perfectly happy with his $800 amp.
Calling anyone with a difference of opinion a troll is getting really old, maybe that's why I do dislike you. No matter.
I am sure Lou is happy with his $800. amp and should be. It will be interesting when the day comes Lou buys a replacement amp further up the food chain and finds another level like he did when he replaced the Denon receiver.
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I like my Xpa-5.......I have 3 amps that I constantly swap out, to power my LSI-15's with, a Sunfire, a vintage Marantz and the Emo. I prefer the sound of the Emo over the other amps.
When I went from using a receiver to power the 15's to using a separate amp, I couldn't believe the difference in the sound quality, it definitely took it up 2-3 levels. I thank Emotiva for that.
Now I'm searching for the next upgrade to take me up a few more "wow" levels in sound quality. Maybe a tube pre, or a new amp???.....so the journey continues........
Thanks again to Emotiva for starting me on the path to High Fidelity.
Jimmy -
I like my Xpa-5.......I have 3 amps that I constantly swap out, to power my LSI-15's with, a Sunfire, a vintage Marantz and the Emo. I prefer the sound of the Emo over the other amps.
When I went from using a receiver to power the 15's to using a separate amp, I couldn't believe the difference in the sound quality, it definitely took it up 2-3 levels. I thank Emotiva for that.
Now I'm searching for the next upgrade to take me up a few more "wow" levels in sound quality. Maybe a tube pre, or a new amp???.....so the journey continues........
Thanks again to Emotiva for starting me on the path to High Fidelity.
Jimmy
You need to start drinking Budweiser -
You need to start drinking Budweiser
Iwent to the store to buy some, but they were all out.........???? Where were you today???? -
I was traveling thru a few towns, Elmwood Park NJ was one. Do you live near there?
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I'm driving my updated 1.2TLs which probably would sell for $3K with a $6K amp.
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I'm driving my $100 speakers with a $75 amp. OooooOOOOOO what NOW?!??!?!I don't read the newsssspaperssss because dey aaaallllllllll...... have ugly print.
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And his speakers sounded awfully nice to an untrained pair of ears!
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I don't read the newsssspaperssss because dey aaaallllllllll...... have ugly print.
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I'm glad to see more Emotiva owner's who are pleased with their purchase/s! I know i am
I will probably get banned for this but here goes:
I find it rather hilarious that the one's who lash out claiming "troll" this or "pot stir" that or anything else along those line's are the one's who are actually "guilty" of this! :rolleyes: ROTFLMFAO
It REALLY is funny how a "select" few come on here and talk chit, blatantly insult people and product's, in general just be a "troll". Then claim everyone else who is "wiser" to be the "troll's" lol GET REAL!
The ONLY reason why i used the term "wiser" is because other's here are capable of discussing something and agreeing/disagreeing with eachother in a CIVIL manner and remain RESPECTFULL to eachother and their decision's :cool:
The truth is out there people! YES i said it! The TRUTH is out there Read the post's 
I will publicly and respectfully say: That you few make me ashamed to be an owner of Polk Audio product's because of your action's and your buddy admin/mod friend's that allow you to continue with your pathetic behaviour.
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sTiLlLeArNiNg wrote: »I'm glad to see more Emotiva owner's who are pleased with their purchase/s! I know i am
I will probably get banned for this but here goes:
I find it rather hilarious that the one's who lash out claiming "troll" this or "pot stir" that or anything else along those line's are the one's who are actually "guilty" of this! :rolleyes: ROTFLMFAO
It REALLY is funny how a "select" few come on here and talk chit, blatantly insult people and product's, in general just be a "troll". Then claim everyone else who is "wiser" to be the "troll's" lol GET REAL!
The ONLY reason why i used the term "wiser" is because other's here are capable of discussing something and agreeing/disagreeing with eachother in a CIVIL manner and remain RESPECTFULL to eachother and their decision's :cool:
The truth is out there people! YES i said it! The TRUTH is out there Read the post's
I will publicly and respectfully say: That you few make me ashamed to be an owner of Polk Audio product's because of your action's and your buddy admin/mod friend's that allow you to continue with your pathetic behaviour.
Y'all know who y'are >>> Not like any of you care but Y'all make this forum look REALLY bad.<<<<
Maybe this will help explain some people's behaviour? http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=e-peen
The Emporer has deemed you to be of no use to us. You seem to enjoy going after and antagonizing others rather than make your point and let it be. Once my probe-droids find you, you will be DESTROYED:mad:... -
sTiLlLeArNiNg wrote: »I'm glad to see more Emotiva owner's who are pleased with their purchase/s! I know i am
I will probably get banned for this but here goes:
I find it rather hilarious that the one's who lash out claiming "troll" this or "pot stir" that or anything else along those line's are the one's who are actually "guilty" of this! :rolleyes: ROTFLMFAO
It REALLY is funny how a "select" few come on here and talk chit, blatantly insult people and product's, in general just be a "troll". Then claim everyone else who is "wiser" to be the "troll's" lol GET REAL!
The ONLY reason why i used the term "wiser" is because other's here are capable of discussing something and agreeing/disagreeing with eachother in a CIVIL manner and remain RESPECTFULL to eachother and their decision's :cool:
The truth is out there people! YES i said it! The TRUTH is out there Read the post's
I will publicly and respectfully say: That you few make me ashamed to be an owner of Polk Audio product's because of your action's and your buddy admin/mod friend's that allow you to continue with your pathetic behaviour.
Y'all know who y'are >>> Not like any of you care but Y'all make this forum look REALLY bad.<<<<
Maybe this will help explain some people's behaviour? http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=e-peen
Troll.
DaveOnce again we meet at last. -
I can't believe I just wasted 10 min of my life to catch up on this thread!DKG999
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I find associating performance with price to be ridiculous, and in in the case of audio, absurd.
Absurd. Yeah, that's a good word to describe your opinions about all things audio. Keep up the good work.Political Correctness'.........defined
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Since ones auditory memory is so short doing an A/B test is very difficult.
You might want to reconsider that opinion. The auditory memory of the human being is really quite extraordinary.Political Correctness'.........defined
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On the matter of speakers verses gear, it's been my experience that really good gear can make less than speakers sound much, much better than they should. On the other hand, less than gear cannot make really good speakers sound good no matter what.Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
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On the matter of speakers verses gear, it's been my experience that really good gear can make less than speakers sound much, much better than they should. On the other hand, less than gear cannot make really good speakers sound good no matter what.
A real good example is the amplification of a head unit compared to a nice separate amp in a car. My A/D/S PQ10 amp kills many an amp of higher power, and controls the speakers very nicely.
STFU StIlLnOtLeArNg Please. Please contact me a ben62670 @ yahoo.com. Make sure to include who you are, and you are from Polk so I don't delete your email. Also I am now physically unable to work on any projects. If you need help let these guys know. There are many people who will help if you let them know where you are.
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You might want to reconsider that opinion. The auditory memory of the human being is really quite extraordinary.
extraordinary, perhaps, but it is still quite short.
Although there is evidence of some types of long term memory, but its usually related to language and its meaning.Pro-ject RM-9.1 w/ Grado Sonata 1 -> USP-1 -> RPA-1 -> Vienna Acoustics Mozart Grands -
On the matter of speakers verses gear, it's been my experience that really good gear can make less than speakers sound much, much better than they should. On the other hand, less than gear cannot make really good speakers sound good no matter what.
i can actually semi agree with this Pro-ject RM-9.1 w/ Grado Sonata 1 -> USP-1 -> RPA-1 -> Vienna Acoustics Mozart Grands
