emotiva xpa5

danz1906

The XPA-5 is on sale for $699.00!

Montoya

This post is a perfect example of what I was stating your first amplifier purchase but yet you somehow manage to know that the amps that are double the price of this amp are not worth the price. How can you have an opinion on something you have never owned and used in your own home theater or two channel rig? A demo at your local home theater store doesn't really count either as I'm sure the components typically are not exactly what you have at home so the conditions are always different at a local retailer.

sTiLlLeArNiNg wrote: »

I really like my xpa5 and for the price, on the new market, i don't think it can easily be beat. At least i have not seen anything priced under $1k with 5ch @ 200w RMS/ch. Most comparable amp's are double the price and the difference in SQ (what ever it is) is not worth the extra money IMO, but it may be to you. Thankfully that is why there are many different brand's

Used is not an option for me, i don't want someone's abused gear that has no warranty. If a friend of mine had a nice piece of equipment he/she was looking to move then OK i would be more open but buying from a person i have never met and in a completely different place, nah ah I like peace of mind and good value for dollar, i happen to be getting both right now.

Ya know funny thing i have never seen any Emotiva owner claim that their amp is the best, be all, end all. Just that they are a great product for the price....

I get no background noise through mine, if you have trouble with "bending" the RCA jack's maybe you could try to unplug them before moving the unit? I made the same mistake once after a few beer's and had to straighten out a jack on my Yammie lol

When i am able to afford better gear i'll explore other option's

For the record: Yes this was my first separate amp purchase. But that does not make my ear's any more deaf than your's haha

mmadden28

That's not how I read it. I read it that in his opinion, it was not worth the extra money for whatever difference in SQ there might be. Seems reasonable to me. Its his decision as to how much money he wants to spend if he's satisfied with the current result.

Since when did somebody's opinion suddenly require facts to justify it?

Montoya

Well read it again he stated in the future he is going to explore once he has more money making his quote about the sq not being worth the extra money invalid.

mmadden28 wrote: »

That's not how I read it. I read it that in his opinion, it was not worth the extra money for whatever difference in SQ there might be. Seems reasonable to me. Its his decision as to how much money he wants to spend if he's satisfied with the current result.

Since when did somebody's opinion suddenly require facts to justify it?

sTiLlLeArNiNg

Montoya wrote: »

Well read it again he stated in the future he is going to explore once he has more money making his quote about the sq not being worth the extra money invalid.

Do not misentrepret my word's. Because i said in the future i would "explore other option's" doesn't mean anything more/less than what it actually mean's! lol In the future i could spend $2k++ on one of the "big name" manufacturer's and find out that YES i did waste my money to "upgrade" or "DAMN" I should have upgraded sooner!

In any event i hardly beleive that for $1k more an amp would net me $1k of audible difference

At this moment in time i am COMPLETELY satisfied with my configuration Maybe when i'm 65 i'll do some exploring? lol

concealer404

^That's called the law of diminishing returns. It's a fact of life.

In the meantime, a LOT of people will find that the $1k jump in price will net a $1k jump in quality.

heiney9

sTiLlLeArNiNg wrote: »

Do not misentrepret my word's. Because i said in the future i would "explore other option's" doesn't mean anything more/less than what it actually mean's! lol In the future i could spend $2k++ on one of the "big name" manufacturer's and find out that YES i did waste my money to "upgrade" or "DAMN" I should have upgraded sooner!

In any event i hardly beleive that for $1k more an amp would net me $1k of audible difference

At this moment in time i am COMPLETELY satisfied with my configuration Maybe when i'm 65 i'll do some exploring? lol

Believe me you could spend less on an amp that would make a difference. It has very little to do with $$$. Sure it's somewhat related in some cases, but it's not a hard and fast rule that if you magically spend more money you'll reach nirvana. Of course in extreme cases this is more true than not.

Until you actually "explore" and start doing it rather than supposing based on what you read or what others say; you really can't discuss it with any kind of credibility.

Now if you want to analyze a few different amps designs (in detail) and make some assumptions that way..........in an educated way knowing the in's and out's of each type of design and critique that way. That would be a case of objective observation that would certainly hold some credibility if you related it to some proven tried and true theories.

H9

mmadden28

Montoya wrote: »

Well read it again he stated in the future he is going to explore once he has more money making his quote about the sq not being worth the extra money invalid.

I still don't see how that makes anything invalid. It was his opinion, he didn't state it as fact. He even stated that "but it may be to you" (worth the extra money).

So in his opinion right now its not worth the extra money. But in the future when he has more money he might explore more??? And what's wrong with keeping options open to explore in the future? Come on now.

I'm not defending him per se, just that it really seems some of the comments are a bit nit picky and being over analyzed.

heiney9

You miss the big picture. He's been squatting in a lot of threads and he's all over the map with his "opinions". Basically whatever he can add at that moment to stir the pot. So I'm also commenting on his views as a whole not the singular thread or idea which he waffles on more than Nooshinjohn.

H9

Montoya

Well you know how it is these things are subjective some people value things more than others that I can agree on. And as a reader of a forum I can only make my replies based on how I interpret it as I am reading but sense you chimed in I stand corrected. I just made the assumption that if you even had a slight interest in spending a few dollars more in the future than SQ was worth something to you I also assumed if this was not the case you would have just left that part out.

sTiLlLeArNiNg wrote: »

Do not misentrepret my word's. Because i said in the future i would "explore other option's" doesn't mean anything more/less than what it actually mean's! lol In the future i could spend $2k++ on one of the "big name" manufacturer's and find out that YES i did waste my money to "upgrade" or "DAMN" I should have upgraded sooner!

In any event i hardly beleive that for $1k more an amp would net me $1k of audible difference

At this moment in time i am COMPLETELY satisfied with my configuration Maybe when i'm 65 i'll do some exploring? lol

sTiLlLeArNiNg

heiney9 wrote: »

You miss the big picture. He's been squatting in a lot of threads and he's all over the map with his "opinions". Basically whatever he can add at that moment to stir the pot. So I'm also commenting on his views as a whole not the singular thread or idea which he waffles on more than Nooshinjohn.

H9

Really? "squatting" eh that's a good one! AFAICT i keep "spewing" the same "BS" over and over and over again in every thread i post in! That's how i was programmed don't ya know? :rolleyes:

If you find my opinion to "stir the pot" it is only because it differ's from your's. Unfortunately I am an individual.

Montoya wrote:

Well you know how it is these things are subjective some people value things more than others that I can agree on. And as a reader of a forum I can only make my replies based on how I interpret it as I am reading but sense you chimed in I stand corrected. I just made the assumption that if you even had a slight interest in spending a few dollars more in the future than SQ was worth something to you I also assumed if this was not the case you would have just left that part out.

SQ is worth something to me, regardless if you beleive it to be true or not. Just because i don't feel the need to purchase a more expensive piece of equipment to achieve the same level, or close to it, of sound quality does not diminish anything.

xcapri79 wrote:

It is always better to demo something at home, however this is not practical for most.
Listening at a friends place or at a home theater store is useful.
That approach led me to the Polk LSi's which I now use for my main room and master bedroom systems.
Similarly this led me to the Emotiva amps, Pioneer SC series receiver, and the Pioneer 50" Kuro TV.

Would I rather own Rotel ICE amps sure, but I can't afford them right now so I'll happily use my Emotiva's.
They make my LSi's sing beautifully. To me that's what matters. Mission accomplished. Based on my positive experences I recommend them to others.

What is objectionable is the mean spirited, and "over the top" negativity that some senior forum members display toward a good product like Emotiva and those members who enjoy their amps.

Like Polk Audio, or Pioneer Electronics and many other manfacturers, Emotiva appeals to the middle of the road enthusiast that can't afford the really high end stuff, but still wants excellent sound. Every time I hear some high brow guru bash Emotiva, he is unwittingly bashing Polk Audio and all the other middle of the road brands that offer quality, performance and value.

VERY well put

Montoya

I agree but mileage may vary with store demos I returned a Denon receiver after a good in store demo only to find out once I got it home my old Pioneer 82thx sounded better. So I returned it and got another pioneer instead.

xcapri79 wrote: »

It is always better to demo something at home, however this is not practical for most.
Listening at a friends place or at a home theater store is useful.
That approach led me to the Polk LSi's which I now use for my main room and master bedroom systems.
Similarly this led me to the Emotiva amps, Pioneer SC series receiver, and the Pioneer 50" Kuro TV.

Would I rather own Rotel ICE amps sure, but I can't afford them right now so I'll happily use my Emotiva's.
They make my LSi's sing beautifully. To me that's what matters. Mission accomplished. Based on my positive experences I recommend them to others.

What is objectionable is the mean spirited, and "over the top" negativity that some senior forum members display toward a good product like Emotiva and those members who enjoy their amps.

Like Polk Audio, or Pioneer Electronics and many other manfacturers, Emotiva appeals to the middle of the road enthusiast that can't afford the really high end stuff, but still wants excellent sound. Every time I hear some highbrow guru bash Emotiva, he is unwittingly bashing Polk Audio and all the other middle of the road brands that offer quality, performance and value.

speakergeek

xcapri79 wrote: »

What is objectionable is the mean spirited, and "over the top" negativity that some senior forum members display toward a good product like Emotiva and those members who enjoy their amps.

Like Polk Audio, or Pioneer Electronics and many other manfacturers, Emotiva appeals to the middle of the road enthusiast that can't afford the really high end stuff, but still wants excellent sound. Every time I see some highbrow guru bash Emotiva, he is unwittingly bashing Polk Audio and all the other middle of the road brands that offer quality, performance and value.

Yep. Very well stated, and I do agree 100% with you. It really hurts the forum in general.

F1nut

speakergeek wrote: »

Yep. Very well stated, and I do agree 100% with you. It really hurts the forum in general.

Absolutely clueless. :rolleyes:

concealer404

Oh i get it.... Emotiva and Polk are the same company.

I guess this explains all the Emotiva fanboys hanging around on a Polk forum instead of an Emotiva forum. Because it's the same thing? Am i right?

nooshinjohn

concealer404 wrote: »

Oh i get it.... Emotiva and Polk are the same company.

I guess this explains all the Emotiva fanboys hanging around on a Polk forum instead of an Emotiva forum. Because it's the same thing? Am i right?

I am begining to believe there is some sort of "Invasion of the Body Snatchers" thing going on here where the EMOettes are trying to take over the world. this thread turned to Emo in two posts...

http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=91121

I truly do not mind the gear so much as the attitudes of some of their owners. If I ever had a thought of trying anything Emo, their attitudes have killed any desire on my part to even look at one.

I wonder when the Emo/N1 vaccine will be coming out...

buymesome

Guys everthing gets bashed and anything you make false comparisons too gets bashed .Even polk speakers will take an **** blasting from time to time in the event of these circumstances .

The fact is that many of the people on here waste there time trying to educate people that dont wish to learn

concealer404

buymesome wrote: »

Guys everthing gets bashed and anything you make false comparisons too gets bashed .Even polk speakers will take an **** blasting from time to time in the event of these circumstances .

The fact is that many of the people on here waste there time trying to educate people that dont wish to learn

No, the fact is that the people trying to educate have nothing to offer towards our education.

And for the record, as made obvious by my signature, i'm not here because i like Polk speakers. I've given ****-blastings to Polk speakers in the past, and will probably do so again. There's very few Polk speakers that turn me on.

apphd

nooshinjohn wrote: »

I am begining to believe there is some sort of "Invasion of the Body Snatchers" thing going on here where the EMOettes are trying to take over the world. this thread turned to Emo in two posts...

http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=91121

I truly do not mind the gear so much as the attitudes of some of their owners. If I ever had a thought of trying anything Emo, their attitudes have killed any desire on my part to even look at one.

I wonder when the Emo/N1 vaccine will be coming out...

You are one to talk about attitude.:rolleyes: Let me explain, this thread as stated in the title was asking about the XP5, so of course it is going to have content about the XP5, hopefully good and bad to help give the OP more info than he had, the last I knew that is why we are all here and the basic concept behind CP. I also don't understand your linked thread.
Here is the 2nd post in that thread http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1193206&postcount=2
If you read it he tries to answer the OP (maybe not very well, as to the specific question about "house sound") and states the OP can't go wrong with the Rotel or Parasound. He then offers another option of an Emotiva, as he bought one because it was cheap, and it worked for him.
The OP's follow up post number 3 sounded like he appreciated some extra food for thought.

Yes Emotiva is what it is, and some here are a little overly zealous with their praise to say the least. But there are also some here that are a little over zealous with jumping in with snide remarks meant to "stir the pot" or make an Emotiva product to be less than it is.

You've made 3 posts to this thread, the first one contributed to the topic, the other two has me wondering what did they add? Kind of like the pot calling the kettle black, which unfortunately I have stooped to now with my thoughts.

nooshinjohn

apphd wrote: »

You are one to talk about attitude.:rolleyes: Let me explain, this thread as stated in the title was asking about the XP5, so of course it is going to have content about the XP5, hopefully good and bad to help give the OP more info than he had, the last I knew that is why we are all here and the basic concept behind CP. I also don't understand your linked thread.
Here is the 2nd post in that thread http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1193206&postcount=2
If you read it he tries to answer the OP (maybe not very well, as to the specific question about "house sound") and states the OP can't go wrong with the Rotel or Parasound. He then offers another option of an Emotiva, as he bought one because it was cheap, and it worked for him.
The OP's follow up post number 3 sounded like he appreciated some extra food for thought.

Yes Emotiva is what it is, and some here are a little overly zealous with their praise to say the least. But there are also some here that are a little over zealous with jumping in with snide remarks meant to "stir the pot" or make an Emotiva product to be less than it is.

You've made 3 posts to this thread, the first one contributed to the topic, the other two has me wondering what did they add? Kind of like the pot calling the kettle black, which unfortunately I have stooped to now with my thoughts.

I appreciate your take on it. IMHO, the third post looks more like a guy that is not looking for information so much as a guy that is baiting one of his fello Emobuddies to further comment on the merits of Emo. The last post on that thread serves to confirm my suspicions... Call me conspiratorial, but I truly believe there is a concerted effort on the part of some at the Emo forum to bring their agenda to this forum for the express purpose of causing dissention and causing trouble. If anyone takes a position here that is in oposition to a fellow Emoettes views, other fanbois will instantly step in and attack the one posting negatively about Emo. There are a bunch of threads in which this has occured, and none of them end well.

As I said, I have no real troubles with the gear itself, just those that come here on a mission to force their views on others. Every thread in which the name Emotiva appears becomes contaminated with BS at some point, and I for one, find it tiresome and old.

apphd

^^^^^^fair enough. I'm pretty new to forums, and maybe there are people who really go out of their way to conspire such activities. I would think people have better things to do with their lives. You see conspiracy as soon as the rock is turned over, I like to wait until a little more dirt is moved. But I do not think L. H. O. acted alone, a UFO did crash near Roswell, and the current economic mess was created for the benefit of a few.:D

sTiLlLeArNiNg

ROTFLMFAO @ nooshinjohn What a joke! Get REAL! lol

I'm done with this thread, Good day....

concealer404

^I wish you had been done before you started that post.

nooshinjohn

apphd wrote: »

^^^^^^fair enough. You see conspiracy as soon as the rock is turned over, I like to wait until a little more dirt is moved. But I do not think L. H. O. acted alone, a UFO did crash near Roswell, and the current economic mess was created for the benefit of a few.:D

Funny, but there is a photograph of Oswald standing in the doorway of the Texas School book depository DURING the shooting of Kennedy, so there is no way he could have been the shooter...;)

Sorry for the threadjack:o...

John

hearingimpared

concealer404 wrote: »

^I wish you had been done before you started that post.

Amen!

bigred7078

concealer404 wrote: »

^I wish you had been done before you started that post.

concealer404, i have been sitting back and reading some of the threads here lately and you seem to try and go out of your way to put in a jab at Emotiva. I am not trying to dump on you, honestly since you seem like a nice guy. I usually say what i have to say and let it be. But I just dont get it...Did you try the product and not like it? I would put money on the fact that many of the people that like to get all worked up about emotiva have never even tried it...For those that say that they have tried it, prove it...Show me your Emotiva invoice...otherwise you're just spouting BS to get people to believe you know what your talking about.

Honestly why do some of you even care? It really seems some of you go out of your way to take jabs at this company and some others get so worked up they can't see straight. The main excuse the usuals give is that they say the Emotiva fans say the amps are the best things since sliced bread....thats such a load of BS. I have not once seen one person post that, hell i have never even posted that. Great bang for the buck? sure. Can you buy other gear used? heck yes. But it seems some peoples goals here are to get people NOT to buy Emotiva. lol, its very strange. Can we have a civil discussion? If not i'll just leave this be, but otherwise lets respectfully discuss

F1nut

Sis-boom-bah! Did you get the Emo pom-pom's as well!?!

bigred7078

F1nut wrote: »

Sis-boom-bah! Did you get the Emo pom-pom's as well!?!

...yes?

cfrizz

bigred7078 wrote: »

concealer404, i have been sitting back and reading some of the threads here lately and you seem to try and go out of your way to put in a jab at Emotiva. I am not trying to dump on you, honestly since you seem like a nice guy. I usually say what i have to say and let it be. But I just dont get it...Did you try the product and not like it? I would put money on the fact that many of the people that like to get all worked up about emotiva have never even tried it...For those that say that they have tried it, prove it...Show me your Emotiva invoice...otherwise you're just spouting BS to get people to believe you know what your talking about.

Honestly why do some of you even care? It really seems some of you go out of your way to take jabs at this company and some others get so worked up they can't see straight. The main excuse the usuals give is that they say the Emotiva fans say the amps are the best things since sliced bread....thats such a load of BS. I have not once seen one person post that, hell i have never even posted that. Great bang for the buck? sure. Can you buy other gear used? heck yes. But it seems some peoples goals here are to get people NOT to buy Emotiva. lol, its very strange. Can we have a civil discussion? If not i'll just leave this be, but otherwise lets respectfully discuss

Nice post BigRed, and right on the money. These threads always turn into a bunch of so called men thumping their chests trying to out "man" the others.

Civil discussion and reading comprehension takes a backseat to machismo.

If you like Emo great, is it the best of the best? of course not. Is it trash? No it isn't. It has it's own place in the market & in peoples systems.

For those that lots of money to spend on more expensive products, congrats go for it. But there is no need to put down anyone else that buys an Emo since that is what they can afford.

The whole point is to get the best you can afford that is going to improve the sound of your system. Emo can do that just as well as any other gear that you might add to your particular system.

Live & let live & stop trying to pick fights over nothing, or differences of opinion.

Jetmaker737

PSOVLSK wrote: »

You either get those who love it and think it's the best amp you could ever hope to own regardless of price (which it isn't) OR you get those who say it is a total piece of junk (which it isn't)

I'll probably kick myself for wading into this but god this **** gets old...

I've been on this forum a few months and all I've ever seen are these people: "those who say it is a total piece of junk"

And never these people: "those who love it and think it's the best amp you could ever hope to own regardless of price"

The people that have emos and post here are more like this:

mmadden28 wrote: »

There is nothing wrong with the XPA-5--Sounds awesome in my setup. Is there better out there--I'm sure, but it is certainly no slouch.

Why do I care? Because I too have an Emo amp but I'm right now searching for another amp to try. So the Emo threads interest me for comparisons to other amps. But I always have to wade through the anti-Emo **** **** in these threads. The newbs that come into CP curious about Emo's must just shake their head and say WTF is wrong with these people as they walk away.

I like CP and there's good knowledgeable folks here. Too bad this one subject is so damned touchy with a few vocal members.