emotiva xpa5

hearingimpared

cfrizz wrote: »

Nice post BigRed, and right on the money. These threads always turn into a bunch of so called men thumping their chests trying to out "man" the others.

Civil discussion and reading comprehension takes a backseat to machismo.

If you like Emo great, is it the best of the best? of course not. Is it trash? No it isn't. It has it's own place in the market & in peoples systems.

For those that lots of money to spend on more expensive products, congrats go for it. But there is no need to put down anyone else that buys an Emo since that is what they can afford.

The whole point is to get the best you can afford that is going to improve the sound of your system. Emo can do that just as well as any other gear that you might add to your particular system.

Live & let live & stop trying to pick fights over nothing, or differences of opinion.

I found bigred's post arrogant and inflamitory. He calls out another member and in doing so sets the stage for a fight then has the nerve to demand an invoice and then insults a group of members.

Based on some of his past posts that I have read he didn't post this one for the sake of peace and harmony.

pearsall001

nooshinjohn wrote: »

I will never buy one... I heard that my homeowner's policy will not cover my house for fire if one comes into my home.

Don't buy a Krell then either...heard about their recall due to fire hazrds?

Bernal

I prefer Sunfire

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concealer404

bigred7078 wrote: »

concealer404, i have been sitting back and reading some of the threads here lately and you seem to try and go out of your way to put in a jab at Emotiva. I am not trying to dump on you, honestly since you seem like a nice guy. I usually say what i have to say and let it be. But I just dont get it...Did you try the product and not like it? I would put money on the fact that many of the people that like to get all worked up about emotiva have never even tried it...For those that say that they have tried it, prove it...Show me your Emotiva invoice...otherwise you're just spouting BS to get people to believe you know what your talking about.

Honestly why do some of you even care? It really seems some of you go out of your way to take jabs at this company and some others get so worked up they can't see straight. The main excuse the usuals give is that they say the Emotiva fans say the amps are the best things since sliced bread....thats such a load of BS. I have not once seen one person post that, hell i have never even posted that. Great bang for the buck? sure. Can you buy other gear used? heck yes. But it seems some peoples goals here are to get people NOT to buy Emotiva. lol, its very strange. Can we have a civil discussion? If not i'll just leave this be, but otherwise lets respectfully discuss

Nah... you're taking it too seriously, trust me. I react, i don't go out of my way to trash Emotiva. It's part of my job to "keep the balance."

And yes, i've tried some of their products. Not to be confrontational, but if you truly did read my posts on the subject, you would have already known that.

I go out of my way to recommend other alternatives, because better alternatives exist, for often, less money. That's all.

And because it's entertaining for me to use simple logic on the main rabid supporters of the company and watch them flounder to come up with anything other than personal attacks.

concealer404

Jetmaker737 wrote: »

I'll probably kick myself for wading into this but god this **** gets old...

I've been on this forum a few months and all I've ever seen are these people: "those who say it is a total piece of junk"

And never these people: "those who love it and think it's the best amp you could ever hope to own regardless of price"

The people that have emos and post here are more like this:



Why do I care? Because I too have an Emo amp but I'm right now searching for another amp to try. So the Emo threads interest me for comparisons to other amps. But I always have to wade through the anti-Emo **** **** in these threads. The newbs that come into CP curious about Emo's must just shake their head and say WTF is wrong with these people as they walk away.

I like CP and there's good knowledgeable folks here. Too bad this one subject is so damned touchy with a few vocal members.

Ehhh.... there's the other people that you're missing on here. I can think of three people off the top of my head, but i won't call them out because i don't are enough. But if you want to research, it's usually the same three people the resort to personal attacks against the LOOONNNGGG time members of the forum.

And no.... the people that give their input as such about Emo products are the few people who have a brain that DID like the product. Far more of us HAVE tried the product, and hated it, and sent it back. For instance, i'm not talking out of my **** when i say that i thought the XPA-2 sounded like ****. I had one. I sent it packing.

I'd rock an XPA-5 for HT use, because i really don't care about sound quality that much, just impact and volume in an HT setting.

speakergeek

concealer404 wrote: »

if you want to research, it's usually the same three people the resort to personal attacks against the LOOONNNGGG time members of the forum.
.

What?????? You have it backwards there I think.:eek:;):D

concealer404

speakergeek wrote: »

What?????? You have it backwards there I think.:eek:;):D

Ermmm.... Guilty conscience?

Just sayin' that it's pretty ironic that you were the first person to try to dispute that. I'm sure you can see the humor here.

Yeah, i'm guilty of personal attacks on this site. Kindof. Only against two people. You're not one of them. So you can chill.

speakergeek

concealer404 wrote: »

I'd rock an XPA-5 for HT use, because i really don't care about sound quality that much, just impact and volume in an HT setting.

What exactly does this mean??? Other than a put down.

concealer404

speakergeek wrote: »

What exactly does this mean??? Other than a put down.

Obviously it means that you read far too far into posts.

No. It's not a put down. It's exactly how i said it. I would use an XPA-5 in my HT setup. No joke.

speakergeek

TroyD wrote: »

I spit on Emotiva.

BDT

dkg999 wrote: »

After it bursts into flames spitting will help, but a good fire extinguisher is recommended.

F1nut wrote: »

The crux of the biscuit.

nooshinjohn wrote: »

I will never buy one... I heard that my homeowner's policy will not cover my house for fire if one comes into my home.

heiney9 wrote: »

You miss the big picture. He's been squatting in a lot of threads and he's all over the map with his "opinions". Basically whatever he can add at that moment to stir the pot. So I'm also commenting on his views as a whole not the singular thread or idea which he waffles on more than Nooshinjohn.

H9

F1nut wrote: »

Absolutely clueless. :rolleyes:

concealer404 wrote: »

^I wish you had been done before you started that post.

nooshinjohn wrote: »

Funny, but there is a photograph of Oswald standing in the doorway of the Texas School book depository DURING the shooting of Kennedy, so there is no way he could have been the shooter...;)

Sorry for the threadjack:o...

John

hearingimpared wrote: »

Amen!

F1nut wrote: »

Sis-boom-bah! Did you get the Emo pom-pom's as well!?!

Keiko wrote: »

I think Pom Poms should be included with the purchase of every new Emo.

hearingimpared wrote: »

I found bigred's post arrogant and inflamitory. He calls out another member and in doing so sets the stage for a fight then has the nerve to demand an invoice and then insults a group of members.

Based on some of his past posts that I have read he didn't post this one for the sake of peace and harmony.

All of these replys seem quite helpful to me....;)

nooshinjohn

^^^ and yours actually adds something? Take a hike.

concealer404

speakergeek wrote: »

All of these replys seem quite helpful to me....;)

Ironic that you left out "stilllearning's" replies. And your own.

hearingimpared

GTFOOH speekgeek. You've been nothing but a trouble maker and still are.

speakergeek

hearingimpared wrote: »

GTFOOH speekgeek. You've been nothing but a trouble maker and still are.

The magnitude of insult output clearly increases as you go up the post count chain here...:D

hearingimpared

speakergeek wrote: »

The magnitude of insult output clearly increases as you go up the post count chain here...:D

There was no insult, just the truth.

hearingimpared

Cathy and I are friends but her quote above is BS IMHO.

ben62670

Gee Wiz guys you made Cathy spew out her man hating funk again. At least she avoided saying

just because you have a dick it doesn't make you a man

I must give her credit for not using the caps lock button. Still another useless the world according to Cfrizz spew:rolleyes:

hearingimpared

Now, now, Cathy is good people. Just like most of us she has strong opinions on certain subjects.

hearingimpared

See what you started speekergeek. I'm sure you are reveling in your accomplishment. You set the bait and I'm ashamed to say it worked.

TROUBLEMAKER!

bigred7078

hearingimpared wrote: »

I found bigred's post arrogant and inflamitory. He calls out another member and in doing so sets the stage for a fight then has the nerve to demand an invoice and then insults a group of members.

Based on some of his past posts that I have read he didn't post this one for the sake of peace and harmony.

Think what you want but it was by no means a "bait" for an argument, just merely a civil discussion for once. If you really have read my past posts without tunnel vision i usually only get involved in a thread after reading crap like speakergeek quoted in post #76. I could go through almost every thread about Emotiva on this forum and quote the same stuff over and over again. Its just getting out of hand IMO.

If you dont like something then move along already. I tried an Onkyo receiver once and hated the thing. Do you see me staking out every thread that comes up here about Onkyo and blasting it with childish remarks??? Obviously a lot of people LOVE onkyo so i dont disrespect their opinions on it and shout out to the world how i have "been there done that and moved along with my audio journey". Now THAT would be called "arrogant and inflammatory".

hearingimpared

bigred7078 wrote: »

If you dont like something then move along already. I tried an Onkyo receiver once and hated the thing. Do you see me staking out every thread that comes up here about Onkyo and blasting it with childish remarks??? Obviously a lot of people LOVE onkyo so i dont disrespect their opinions on it and shout out to the world how i have "been there done that and moved along with my audio journey". Now THAT would be called "arrogant and inflammatory".

I've never made a comment about an Emotiva product as I've never seen one let alone heard one. I have blasted the posters who lump high posters in the same category or insult a group of members.

As far as your experience with Onkyo I would say you are remiss in not sharing your experience with prospective Onkyo purchasers. That's not to say you have to blast the product just share your experience.

I think Emo gets blasted here because of the way SOME fan boys beligerantly jump into threads and go on the attack because someone doesn't like an EMO product. That's how all this EMO hating got started.

bigred7078

hearingimpared wrote: »

I've never made a comment about an Emotiva product as I've never seen one let alone heard one.

I wish others had a similar mindset.

hearingimpared wrote: »

I have blasted the posters who lump high posters in the same category or insult a group of members.

Why? Are people here with "high post counts" infallible? I have only made comments to a poster when they are going out of their way to make jabs. When anyone here calls out a long standing member for their comments, they
automatically get labeled a troll. BUT i also have seen some of the emotiva fans go out of their way to get into an argument/bait some of these members. I am guilt of this as well. There really is no innocent people here. I'm just tired of seeing it over and over. Emotiva is not going anywhere but i think some of the members here believe if they talk bad about it enough people will stop talking about it...

hearingimpared wrote: »

I think Emo gets blasted here because of the way SOME fan boys beligerantly jump into threads and go on the attack because someone doesn't like an EMO product. That's how all this EMO hating got started.

Again refer back to post #76. That happens over and over and over again. Then a emotiva fan jumps in and defends. I don't see anything wrong with that after some of the comments made. Seriously.."i spit on emotiva" "it will burst into flames"...c'mon. If i made those comments about Adcom or Sunfire here people would go nuts.

Its funny because people who make those types of comments are trolls...plain and simple. But when someone comes and defends against those comments they are labeled a troll instead since they dont have the same opinion as someone with 10,000+ posts....its just sad to see really.

Anyway, if some of you have tried an emotiva product and dont like it, great! share your experience. There is nothing wrong with that, nothing at all. Audio is very very subjective. We all have unique tastes. But some of you think your experience is the end of the road and no one elses will surpass it.

hearingimpared

bigred7078 wrote: »

Why? Are people here with "high post counts" infallible?

I didn't say that.

bigred7078

hearingimpared wrote: »

I didn't say that.

apologies, didnt mean to put words in your mouth.

hearingimpared

bigred7078 wrote: »

apologies, didnt mean to put words in your mouth.

No sweat.

louhamilton

WOW!!!

So much testosterone going on in here. Coming to a thread like this as a newbie would surely put a bad taste in my mouth about BOTH companies.

I'm not sure why all the hatred (and bashing) towards Emotiva is spewing about. Even the people over at HTGuide don't put down this product as much as I have seen here. Is it because they are an online company? Do you have the same feelings for Outlaw? SVS? HSU?

How about cables? Monoprice too good for you? How about Blue Jeans Cables? Or does everything need to be Transparent Cables to be acceptable?

I'm just trying to understand where everyone is coming from? I'm seriously confused.

Oh, BTW, I do own an Emotiva XPA-5 and have it paired with B&W 800 series speakers. I chose the Emo over Outlaw, Rotel, and Classe. (Okay, I chose it over Classe because the CA-5200 was WAY out of my budget. ). In the end, I felt it was the best bang for my buck. I do agree that there are better amps out there, but for my money, it was the best. And maybe I'm a little bit of a snob, but I won't buy used electronics. It's just me.

It saddens me that in todays world with the economy we have that a company who brings to market cost effective gear is put down so badly.

Oh, and if the roles were reversed and this was in an Eomtiva thread at their forums or even at AVS, most Club Polk members would have each others back to defend the Polk products.

We all need to sit back and remember that we are all here for the same purpose -- to enjoy music and HT to the best that we can afford. I'm sure most of us would love to have a dedicated HT or music room with the best gear and acoustically treated for the best sound/visual experience, but we cannot all afford that.

Anyway, that is my take and I hope everyone has a great day.

NJPOLKER

Hi Lou,
Just my opinion, I think its more of a people/person thing at times more than a equipment issue. We do have some **** around who just like to stir the pot and when its over and over it pisses some guys off.
You stated "We all need to sit back and remember that we are all here for the same purpose -- to enjoy music and HT to the best that we can afford." You may have a tiny point here but a lot of us have systems past the point of affordable or what we should really spend on audio equipment.

concealer404

^Ding!

I don't hate the gear. I don't like the way it sounds on my setup, but if someone else does, great! It's their ears. I just have a problem with some of the people/the way they push the gear around here.

Hell, i don't even see Polk being pushed as hard as Emotiva is pushed, and this is a Polk forum, for pete's sake.

louhamilton

NJPOLKER wrote: »

Hi Lou,
Just my opinion, I think its more of a people/person thing at times more than a equipment issue. We do have some **** around who just like to stir the pot and when its over and over it pisses some guys off.
You stated "We all need to sit back and remember that we are all here for the same purpose -- to enjoy music and HT to the best that we can afford." You may have a tiny point here but a lot of us have systems past the point of affordable or what we should really spend on audio equipment.

AMEN to that!

I have around $10K in my speakers alone (and probably going to upgrade them again in 2010). I have since played with a Rotel 1575 with my B&W's at my house but the quality difference was not large enough to justify the price difference AT THIS TIME. I will probably just wait until I can afford the Classe gear since I think that sounds the best with my gear.

concealer404 wrote: »

^Ding!

I don't hate the gear. I don't like the way it sounds on my setup, but if someone else does, great! It's their ears. I just have a problem with some of the people/the way they push the gear around here.

Hell, i don't even see Polk being pushed as hard as Emotiva is pushed, and this is a Polk forum, for pete's sake.

I was not pointing anyone out at all. I was just saying the over all feel was very tense. We had Polkies backing up the other Polkies and the Emo's backing up the EMO's. Everyone had a play it was not just one side or the other at fault.

I totally agree with you on the pushing part. Please give me a suggestion if I ask for it and leave it at that. If I ask to prove why its better, please prove it. It's not that difficult.

I guess I could partially be at issue at hand with my post(s) but I'm also not bashing anything/anyone or pushing any particular products down anyones throat either. I feel suggestions and recommendations are just what they are.

Do I think there is a perfect product out there? HELL NO! Everyone has different tastes and their environments could make certain things sound better or worse.

I don't even think sliced bread is all that special. I prefer to cut my own bread to the thickness I want. Why do I have to settle for what someone thinks is the "norm" or "appropriate?"

concealer404

^Mmmmmmm fresh unsliced bread!