17yr old shot dead next street from me
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I think its a clear cut case of some 1 being trigger happy and abusing what i think is an outdated right. The right to bare arms written in the constitution was written many years ago and should be updated for modern society ,plain and simple .Look at the UK they are so smart ,even the cops dont have guns . And curt omg lmao ,why the f**k would the country be invaded ? What the hell are you on about laddie , no1 is gona invade amrerica and have us all banding together in posse's gunning down some invading army . Now sweden doesnt have an army so there whole country has to bear arms incase that happends . Them guys are allowed to have fully automatic assault rifles. I just can see invaders comming to our shores any time soon . Theres so many countrys that do fine without weapons and theres no shootings like there is here
Being a law student, I direct you to the facts, which seem to elude (that means escape) people of your social views.
"Would Banning Firearms Reduce Murder and Suicide: A Review of International Evidence," Harvard Journal of Law & Public Policy, vol. 30, pages 651-694.
Here you can see I have clearly cited a highly acclaimed research authority that is well-respected by people who enjoy the fairyland of your social views: Harvard Law.
In short a fifteen year study proved in countries around the world where there was more gun ownership, there were significantly less murders and violent crimes. The opposite results were true in countries restricting gun ownership. Why? Because criminals who don't obey laws still obtained guns and were less afraid a gun would be used against them in the course of a crime.
I highly recommend you go to a library with Lexis or West Law access and enjoy these facts for yourself. The study is incredibly in-depth and covers a number of angles where this topic often meets criticism.
Before you respond without first reading the study, please take a look at this article in a local paper where I used to live entitled "People Choose News to Fit Their Views." I draw your attention to the middle of the article, which states, "People with stronger party affiliation, conservative political views, and greater interest in politics proved more likely to click on articles with opposing views, according to the Ohio State study.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/livescience/20090608/sc_livescience/peoplechoosenewsthatfitstheirviews
So, before you go spouting off about how wrong I am. Educate yourself first. -
I think its a clear cut case of some 1 being trigger happy and abusing what i think is an outdated right. The right to bare arms written in the constitution was written many years ago and should be updated for modern society ,plain and simple .Look at the UK they are so smart ,even the cops dont have guns . And curt omg lmao ,why the f**k would the country be invaded ? What the hell are you on about laddie , no1 is gona invade amrerica and have us all banding together in posse's gunning down some invading army . Now sweden doesnt have an army so there whole country has to bear arms incase that happends . Them guys are allowed to have fully automatic assault rifles. I just can see invaders comming to our shores any time soon . Theres so many countrys that do fine without weapons and theres no shootings like there is here
You are stuck on stupid. I am actually dumber for trying to translate that gibberish. -
I would love to see the day when were all tagged with some kind of gps tracking system
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i'm not gona read all that mubo jumbo law bull to fashion any kind of opinion
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I would love to see the day when were all tagged with some kind of gps tracking system
Really? That's an interesting view. What would be the benefits of this? Please do tell...because I can't see a single benefit at all to that idea.i'm not gona read all that mubo jumbo law bull to fashion any kind of opinion
You've just proved your ignorance. Thank you.
For the record, that isn't an "opinion". That was actually fact that was compiled over the course of 15 years. I didn't read through it, as I already have absolutely no trouble believing it.The nirvana inducer-
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I find it impossible for anyone to be so STUPID as you are and still live beyond the age of 5...I would love to see the day when were all tagged with some kind of gps tracking systemi'm not gona read all that mubo jumbo law bull to fashion any kind of opinion
I am sorry to learn of your inability to read. It explains volumes.
I again ask that we allow this thread to be destroyed and not continue down this path as it will only lead us to the DARK SIDE! Please gentlemen, let's move on and allow the rebel known as Slowpolky to go back to playing with himself. -
i'm not gona read all that mubo jumbo law bull to fashion any kind of opinion
Predictable, as I alluded to above.
P.S. "allude" is not synonymous with "elude" . . . in case you are used to reading typos. -
Vader go watch star wars for the 500th time. Who do you think you are? I have every right to vioce my opinion on what i think would make society safe. It blows my mind that people just come here to crap on the views . Theres alot of threads i simply dont like and stay away from i suggest any one who doesnt like it simply does not take part
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Vader go watch star wars for the 500th time. Who do you think you are? I have every right to vioce my opinion on what i think would make society safe. It blows my mind that people just come here to crap on the views . Theres alot of threads i simply dont like and stay away from i suggest any one who doesnt like it simply does not take part
I am not interested in quelching the views of anyone here as they all have some merit. I am interested specifically in doing whatever is required to make trolls such as yourself go away. You have said nothing intelligent here, so let this thread end. Don't make me destroy you... -
Slowpolky-If you'd read the links that SolidSqual posted above, you'd realize that your idea of what "makes society safe" actually makes society a lot more dangerous.
Oh well. I'm done arguing here. Slowpolky seems to have the mental capacity of a really intelligent potato. At least he's pretty smart by the standards of the average potato though. That's a plus.
Destroy him Lord Vader. Strong with this one, the Force is not.The nirvana inducer-
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Define troll?
What exactly are you doing ? If your not interested in any views then simply bugger off to the dark side you idiot -
I think its a clear cut case of some 1 being trigger happy and abusing what i think is an outdated right. The right to bare arms written in the constitution was written many years ago and should be updated for modern society ,plain and simple .Look at the UK they are so smart ,even the cops dont have guns . And curt omg lmao ,why the f**k would the country be invaded ? What the hell are you on about laddie , no1 is gona invade amrerica and have us all banding together in posse's gunning down some invading army . Now sweden doesnt have an army so there whole country has to bear arms incase that happends . Them guys are allowed to have fully automatic assault rifles. I just can see invaders comming to our shores any time soon . Theres so many countrys that do fine without weapons and theres no shootings like there is here
You've ovbiously not been to England because a lot of police carry guns. Sweden doesn't have an army, eh? You should check your facts because you are dead wrong on that one too. In fact, you haven't been right about one damn thing since you joined here.
Frankly, I'm sick of your trolling and I'm calling for you to be banned permanently as you bring nothing worthwhile to this great forum.Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
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for your information i have been to england way more times than any1 here as i have family there. Only the flying squad and airport security has guns. None of the beat cops have guns silly man
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Again just a little basic research: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armed_Response_Vehicle
Wikipedia is not an authority but it is a good compass for where you may need to look. It seems the police forces described below were instituted in response to growing gun crimes. And, no surprise, putting guns back in the hands of officers hand a positive effect.
Armed Response Vehicles were introduced to the British Police to provide them with a firearms response capability, as the United Kingdom police do not routinely carry firearms on patrol, with the exception of a minority of armed officers. Outside of London, ARVs are controlled and organised by the Force Firearms Unit, and within the capital they are controlled by Specialist Firearms Command.
ARVs deployed for the first time in London, during 1991. Following their success, forces outside of the capital later formed them throughout the early to mid 1990s. The concept of an ARV was influenced by West Yorkshire Police's "Instant Response Cars", as used in 1976.
Early ARVs contained a secure safe between the seats containing a .38 Smith & Wesson Model 10 for each member, with two 9mm Heckler & Koch MP5 semi-automatic carbines secured in the boot. After ARVs became established, and the practice was accepted for widespread use, the Model 10 revolvers were replaced by more recent self-loading Glock 17s, firing 9 mm rounds.
Revolvers and pistols could be removed from the secure safe by ARV members, if an "immediate threat to life" was posed, in the opinion of the ARV member. Authorisation to remove carbines required authorisation from the control room once they had contacted an officer of ACPO rank. If a high ranking officer could not be sought to gain authorisation, in an emergency it could be given by a Chief Inspector. Following an increase in the size of the Firearms Unit, the then Commissioner Sir Paul Condon granted the ARV crews authority to wear their handguns overtly and to deploy their weapons without the need to get separate authority each time. The regulations came into effect on the 23 May 1994. Several other forces followed suit; Greater Manchester police became one of those whose AFVs openly carried firearms on 6 September of that year.[1] -
You know i realy dont get this trolling thing? I have expressed what i think would make america better for all of us. But people come here and they are just plain rude if you ask me
Then there is all the slanders on me and pictures of semi naked woman on a thread about a kids death. You were all even insulting this dead kid and posting pictures of him saying this and that. If you ask me i would think that is trolling more than anything ive ever said
F1 enlighten me ask to what a troll is and how i could be classed as 1
I think your opinion of what a troll is actually differs to what a troll is . This isnt your forum for people who agree with you
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There are many more police in England than the beat cop and they do carry guns. You really should check your facts.Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
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"Though Norway has far and away the highest firearm ownership per capita in Western Europe, it nevertheless has the lowest murder rate. Other nations with high firearms ownership and comparably low murder rates include Denmark, Greece, Switzerland, Germany and Austria. Holland has a 50 percent higher murder rate despite having the lowest rate of firearm ownership in Europe. And Luxembourg, despite its total handgun ban, has a murder rate that is nine times higher than countries such as Norway and Austria.
It turns out that in nations where guns are less available, criminals manage to get them anyway. After decades of ever-stricter gun controls, England banned handguns and confiscated them from all permit holders in 1997. Yet by 2000, England had the industrialized world's highest violent crime rate -- twice that of the U.S. Despite the confiscation of law-abiding Englishmen's handguns, a 2002 report of England's National Crime Intelligence Service lamented that while "Britain has some of the strictest gun laws in the world, t appears that anyone who wishes to obtain a firearm [illegally] will have little difficulty in doing so." - Don B. Kates and Carol Hehmeyer - As published in Daily Journal.
http://gunowners.org/op0746.htm
Don Kates is a lawyer and criminologist associated with the Independent Institute in Oakland. Carol Hehmeyer is a retired San Francisco deputy district attorney. -
Solid the cops in manchester only have more armed responce units because of a place called mosside thats heavily populated by black people dealing drugs thats coming in from the west indie's .
Sure there is armed responce units and you can tell them because of the diffrent striping on the boot of the car
The general bobby only has mace and a trunchon, small wooden stick -
I would love to see the day when were all tagged with some kind of gps tracking system
Well this statement right here tells me you definitely are just a troll trying to illicit a response. You really should just move to Iran or North Korea. You'll like how the government controls the populace in those places. -
By the way, this is anecdotal evidence . . .for your information i have been to england way more times than any1 here as i have family there. Only the flying squad and airport security has guns. None of the beat cops have guns silly man
. . . not necessarily true or reliable, because the notion set forth is based on personal accounts rather than facts or research. -
F1 i dont need to check my facts you F**kn ignorant asshat , I lived there for many years on and off geeeeeez Half my family lives there
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Solid the cops in manchester only have more armed responce units because of a place called mosside thats heavily populated by black people dealing drugs thats coming in from the west indie's .
Sure there is armed responce units and you can tell them because of the diffrent striping on the boot of the car
The general bobby only has mace and a trunchon, small wooden stick
Just black people, huh? This confirms another fact about people like you. -
huggies i truly belive if we all had a system to know where we all were then we could be safe . I aint no troll
I also belive all cars should be fitted with the proposed black box that can record our driving
If theres ever a crime or an accident in a car then we would all benifit if we were in the right -
I lived there for many years on and off
Yeah, me too. You really should check your facts.Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
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solid, yes just black people!!!!!!!!!!! If you ever walked through there youd be beaten up . Every1 knows that
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how long did you live there for?
Where did you live ?
I think you went there on holiday because you cant stay for longer than 3 months
I have dual citizenship -
solid, yes just black people!!!!!!!!!!! If you ever walked through there youd be beaten up . Every1 knows that
So, then there are times when a gun is necessary even when there is only the suspicion that you will be beat up?
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The area is the worst in england .Drugs and guns go hand in hand . They dont like white people living there because it belongs to their community . The bbc had an interesting documentary on it
What they did was get a black guy and made him white .He returned to mosside with his wife and nearly got beat up every time he walked down the street during the day.
People hated on him for being white and he was crying and stuff talking about it -
The area is the worst in england .Drugs and guns go hand in hand . They dont like white people living there because it belongs to their community . The bbc had an interesting documentary on it
What they did was get a black guy and made him white .He returned to mosside with his wife and nearly got beat up every time he walked down the street during the day.
People hated on him for being white and he was crying and stuff talking about it
Ok, so are you saying you shouldn't live anywhere that requires a gun. And, if you do live in such an area and you are victimized, it's your own fault for choosing a violent place to live? -
Theres guns guns guns and they shoot the police. If guns where legal there then i dread to think how many deaths there would be. I routinely used to go to gun clubs with my english brother.
Now you can even go to a gun club because of a man in scotland in a place called dunblane, He looked after kids and was found to be a biy shifty . The parents banned him from looking after the kids in the various social activitys he had them involved in
He was a member of a gun club and what he did was the next day after they shut him down he came into the kids public school . He burst through the doors and just started opening fire on every one . From kids to the age of 5 and 6 to 30 year old school teachers , he killed as many as he could . Ater that theres no guns from like 1999
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