Studies On Residential Power Line Noise - Part 8: Audio Grade Fuses For Home Theater
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hearingimpared
You do have a good sense of humor. You will need it after reading any COMPLETE DK post. Don't you think DK's posts could use a little editing.
Tell the truth do you really read DK's complete post?
Got to lower that contact resistance. -
hearingimpared
You do have a good sense of humor. You will need it after reading any COMPLETE DK post. Don't you think DK's posts could use a little editing.
Tell the truth do you really read DK's complete post?
Got to lower that contact resistance.
I have nothing but the highest respect for DK. I've met him and spoke with him for quite a while. He is a very intelligent and level headed man.
I do agree with Face however. There are numbers of us that have attested to ICs & speaker wire making a difference and Ray has gone to great length and testing to prove his points and yes I read his threads thoroughly.
BTW I was going to change the wire within my 1.2 TLs but Jesse advised me against it and I trust his ears and judgement.
I don't know why you get so aggrevated when science is questioned.
Thanks for the compliment though. -
FACE
Are you an engineer? If not, just ask any EE about the crap DK is posting about his fuse post and they will tell it contradicts the basic laws of electricity.
I wonder where DK got a EE? Has he published any papers in a EE Journal?
Please show me these. DK is pulling your leg with EE crap.
I tried many cables and couldn't hear a difference. No one has ever demomnstrated that they can hear a differnce with a DB test that was done correctly.
Study Part 8B. Right. -
FACE
Are you an engineer? If not, just ask any EE about the crap DK is posting about his fuse post and they will tell it contradicts the basic laws of electricity.
I wonder where DK got a EE? Has he published any papers in a EE Journal?
Please show me these. DK is pulling your leg with EE crap.
I tried many cables and couldn't hear a difference. No one has ever demomnstrated that they can hear a differnce with a DB test that was done correctly.
Study Part 8B. Right.
Peter,
Google "Raife F Smith II Phd" see what you get. -
How about answering my questions first."He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche
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hearingpared
DK's posts regarding STUDIES IN fuses is not science.
You can't change the wire in the voice coil of a speaker.
As a material sciencist I could BS people here with bogus data also but I don't.
If you are not in the science field, people in science field can easily can lie to you. They can take advantage of you by using terminolgy. The langauge of EE science is all about math. DK uses NO math. Wonder why?
Don't let people BS you. Ask questions. -
How about answering my questions first.
I did and didn't hear any differences. What other question are you talking about? -
He has a PHd and teaches at Southern University Electrical Engineering.
So what? That doesn't mean he isn't pulling your leg or is off his meds. -
Peter, I've had enough of you crapping in threads around here. Just because you can't hear a difference doesn't mean others can't, so STFU already.Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
President of Club Polk -
Our testimonies aren't good enough for you, an engineer's testimony isn't good enough for you, what are you waiting for... something to fall out of the sky?I did and didn't hear any differences. What other question are you talking about?
I think the questions above are about what Mike is talking about. -
He has a PHd and teaches at Southern University Electrical Engineering.
So what? That doesn't mean he isn't pulling your leg or is off his meds.
Wonder if he teaches this crap to his students? Would be interesting to see what his fellow professors think of his "studies". -
Peter, I've had enough of you crapping in threads around here. Just because you can't hear a difference doesn't mean others can't, so STFU already.
And some of us are tired of all your magical claims and beliefs being posted as fact. So why don't you shut up already? -
Peter, I've had enough of you crapping in threads around here. Just because you can't hear a difference doesn't mean others can't, so STFU already.
I also have had enough of this bad fake science. Showing that basic EE contradicts DK's post is not crapping on his post.
I base my posts on EE science. To say a fuse improves the noise in the wall outlet makes no sense to my EE knowledge.
Can you explain the fuse STUDY or do you just have faith?
I never said that just because I can't hear a differnce doesn't mean there isn't one. Face asked me to test cables and I did and couldn't hear a differnce. I am also color blind but I also believe that people can see colors.
Do you know why I believe that people can see colors and I can't. They were tested and proved it.
So you can hear the difference, good for you, prove it before you try to sell me stuff that contradicts just basic not fancy EE science.
DK is pulling your leg. -
Our testimonies aren't good enough for you
You got that right. I don't believe in testimonies and the tooth fairy.
Sorry, but why would you believe that crap? -
And some of us are tired of all your magical claims and beliefs being posted as fact. So why don't you shut up already?
Because, unlike you, I have systems capable of producing magical sound.Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
President of Club Polk -
Peter and William,
Maybe it's time for a visit to the ear doctor or to pick one of these up:
"He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche -
I base my posts on EE science.
That right there is at least half of your problem. The other half is your closed minded attitude. Folks use to think the world was flat at one time and apparently some still do.Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
President of Club Polk -
That right there is at least half of your problem. The other half is your closed minded attitude. Folks use to think the world was flat at one time and apparently some still do.
You know F1 that is another bit of crap that has been floating around for many years. The Greeks proved the earth was round over 2000 years ago. In fact they calculated the diameter to within a few %. They used simple but clever methods. That myth like cables continues to live and I'll never undertsan why. -
Peter and William,
Maybe it's time for a visit to the ear doctor or to pick one of these up:
Or maybe it's time for you to visit a Psychiatrist. They can prescribe meds that may help you with hearing and seeing things that just aren't there. -
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Or maybe it's time for you to visit a Psychiatrist. They can prescribe meds that may help you with hearing and seeing things that just aren't there.
As a matter of fact, a majority of my schooling is in psychology, the rest is in electronics."He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche -
So who tagged this so badly???
What side are you on? Science or Faith?
Just joking. I hate smilly faces.
Come on in the water is..... -
As a matter of fact, a majority of my schooling is in psychology, the rest is in electronics.
Straight talk. Please explain with your electronic back ground how a fuse can reduce noise in the wall outlet. -
Quick question:
How did you connected your center chanel to be able to have two of them?
Again thanks for all your many incredibel posts.
Each center channel speaker is connected to one of the stereo outputs of an Adcom GFA-5500 power amp.Proud and loyal citizen of the Digital Domain and Solid State Country! -
Darqueknight,
have you tried something like snake oil, ultravivid liquid, ultrabit platinum cd cleaners? -
Can I make a request? DK- With no music or any other outside noise, stand between your coffee table and the couch and clap your hands, once, as hard as you can. Describe in detail- the same kind of detail that you use for the other posts.
Next repeat this while standing directly in front of each speaker. Also, if you don't mind, post a pic of the wall to the left as you're facing the TV.
Thanks!Gallo Ref 3.1 : Bryston 4b SST : Musical fidelity CD Pre : VPI HW-19
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Backburner:Krell KAV-300i -
Darqueknight,
have you tried something like snake oil, ultravivid liquid, ultrabit platinum cd cleaners?
I have not tried any of the cd cleaner/enhancers.
I did notice that CD's re-recorded on music CD-R's sounded better than the commercial recording. I discussed it in this thread: Better Sound With Music CD-R'sProud and loyal citizen of the Digital Domain and Solid State Country! -
Can I make a request? DK- With no music or any other outside noise, stand between your coffee table and the couch and clap your hands, once, as hard as you can. Describe in detail- the same kind of detail that you use for the other posts.
Next repeat this while standing directly in front of each speaker. Also, if you don't mind, post a pic of the wall to the left as you're facing the TV.
Thanks!
I might be more inclined to assist you with your inquiry if you tell me why I should do this.
I assume this has something to do with reverb time...but I'm not sure.Proud and loyal citizen of the Digital Domain and Solid State Country! -
A buddy of mine has a surprisingly similar room- it's always hard to put into words what you hear in a room, but I think that'd help me know exactly what you're describing in your posts. You've got a ton of detail... so the experiment might help me understand what you're saying.Gallo Ref 3.1 : Bryston 4b SST : Musical fidelity CD Pre : VPI HW-19
Gallo Ref AV, Frankengallo Ref 3, LC60i : Bryston 9b SST : Meridian 565
Jordan JX92s : MF X-T100 : Xray v8
Backburner:Krell KAV-300i -
hearingimpared wrote: »I think it's all bull crap science. Anyone that starts his post with Studies raises a red flag and is way into himself.
Audio grade fuses! Who and what makes them audio grade but the rant of some nut in advertising.
The lack of simple logic amazes me. It's a series circuit people. Do you replace all the fuses in the power line?
Doesn't anyone understand the logic and laws of a series circuit? Apperently not, go do a little reading. If there is noise in a series circuit the only way to reduce it is with a resonant circuit which requires capacitance and inductance. Fuses have no inducatance or capacitance. WTF.
Speaker Wire nuts, think about this, what kind of speaker wire is in your SDA speakers that were made over 20 years ago. Did you replace all the wire in your speaker cross over? Did you replace all the wire in the voice coils of the speakers.
It's a series circuit.
Add these fuses to the TV commercials late at night that sell, diets, HD sunglasses, special cloths for clean up and you name what ever crap they sell. Two for the price of one.
It's a bad joke and Mr Studies laughs at you.
America is going down hill based of the fact that people really believe this crap and encourage him to continue his STUDIES. What a joke.
Sounds like a raving, angry fool.
Joe,
My, my, my...someone's wound a bit too tight, eh? I specifically said in noise study #7 that these "fuses" appear to exhibit noise filtering capabilities and that they should more appropriately be reclassified as passive power conditioning devices rather than just circuit protection devices. However, such reclassification would probably require another level of regulatory approval and certifications.
I noted, prior to the antagonist being upgraded to my ignore list, that he frequently resorted to profane language and personal attacks rather than a rational and informed rebuttal of technical positions he disagrees with. I am surprised that someone who purports to be a trained research scientist would use such methods to rebut a technical position that he disagreed with.hearingimpared wrote: »FACE
Are you an engineer? If not, just ask any EE about the crap DK is posting about his fuse post and they will tell it contradicts the basic laws of electricity.
I wonder where DK got a EE? Has he published any papers in a EE Journal?
Please show me these. DK is pulling your leg with EE crap.
I tried many cables and couldn't hear a difference. No one has ever demomnstrated that they can hear a differnce with a DB test that was done correctly.
Study Part 8B. Right.
Peter,
Google "Raife F Smith II Phd" see what you get.
Wow Joe...this guy really seems to be obsessed with me. On the one hand it is flattering that I..and my writings...occupy so much space in his brain. On the other hand, it would be nice if he could find something to do that didn't didn't get him so riled up. Perhaps adopting a fuzzy, cute little kitten would calm his nerves. But then again...he'd probably eat the little critter.
The validity of my writings should stand on their own. My academic and professional accomplishments are irrelevant. If someone has some valid, contrary information to anything I have written, I would be interested in reading and discussing it. I did not put the antagonist on "ignored status" because he disagreed with me, but rather because all he does is repeat the same vile rants without any rationally contravening facts. Of course, everyone is entitled to their opinion, but what that sage old Chinese philosopher said over 2000 years ago is still true today:"A man with an argument is always at the mercy of a man with an experience."
I don't know why anyone on an audio forum would be interested in my academic pedigree, and I suppose most rational forum members couldn't care less. However, for the sake of those poor, tortured souls who stay up nights wondering where my Ph.D. came from or if I have any IEEE papers, I will submit the following:
I received my Ph.D. from Tulane University in New Orleans, Louisiana. Tulane overall ranks in the top 50 among United States research universities.
Most of my technical writings were done during the 16 years I spent in the telecommunications industry with AT&T and Lucent Technologies and are proprietary. I have been in academia for the last 8 years and for the past five years my research program has been sponsored by the Air Force Research Laboratories, which again, is proprietary. However, for those who are itching to read some some of my non-audio-related technical writings, I will point to a few:
1. I was invited to give a presentation at IEEE Globecom 2008 in December of 2008. IEEE GLOBECOM is the premier international telecommunications technical conference for industry professionals, academics, and governmental agencies. This is a link to the technical program for the day I presented a paper on "Security Optimization for the Digital Oilfield": Globecom 12/3/2008 Program.
All of the presenters listed on the program above were invited to speak because they are recognized by their peers as experts in their respective fields.
2. I presented a peer-reviewed paper, which was co-authored with one of my former graduate students, at the 40th IEEE Southeastern Symposium on System Theory in March of 2008 entitled "Capacity Optimization For 3G Networks". The abstract for the paper can be found here.
3. I was awarded patent # 7,013,255 on March 14, 2006 for "Traffic Simulation Algorithm For Asynchronous Transfer Mode Networks". The patent abstract can be read here. Of course, the full filing documents can be read at the US Patent and Trademark website.
The interested reader can find other IEEE publications authored or co-authored by me if they query the appropriate IEEE database. However, these few examples should provide some insight into my technical professional interests. The papers are available for purchase if anyone wants a copy to cuddle up with at night.:)
If someone reports that they have found something that sounds good and it seems like something I want to try, I go and try it. I don't need to see their academic transcript or see their listening trial published in a peer-reviewed IEEE or AES journal before I dive in. This is a hobby.
I hope this helps. But if it does not...medication is available.:)hearingimpared wrote: »As the leper said while leaving the whorehouse, "keep the tip."
Gold Joe.....Gold!As a matter of fact, a majority of my schooling is in psychology, the rest is in electronics.
Whether a person has five Ph.D.'s or no formal education at all, I would still expect them to be able to describe what they are hearing and to know if what they are hearing is pleasing or not.Proud and loyal citizen of the Digital Domain and Solid State Country!
