Emotiva CD player a big hit so far

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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,425
    edited June 2009
    bigred7078 wrote: »
    Actually Apple is trying not to encourage low bitrate music these days. They recently went with a standard of 256kbps instead of 128kbps. Still not CD quality but its getting better. And ipods CAN play lossless audio format, not .FLAC, but they can play .ALAC which is still lossless. But i dont use my ipod to play digital music, i use an AppleTV as my media device.

    Well a std. cda file is 1411kbps (as is a FLAC file) so 256kbps is horrid!!! All lossy is actually horrid for hi-fi use. iPods have their uses.......IMO, as a source in a high end system it leaves a lot to be desired.

    H9
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  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    edited June 2009
    heiney9 wrote: »
    Well a std. cda file 1411kbps (as is a FLAC file) so 256kbps is horrid!!! All lossy is actually horrid for hi-fi use. iPods have their uses.......IMO, as a source in a high end system it leaves a lot to be desired.

    I agree if someone has lossy files on their iPod then it isn't a good source for a hi-fi, but if the files are lossless, and the files are digitally extracted bypassing the interal DAC, then an iPod is no differant than any other storage device used for retrieving digital music. And that includes CDs which are just another storage device for lossless files.

    This is the part I do not understand in your dislike for iPods. An iPod is just a digital storage device with an LCD screen, and an OS for accessing and managing the files on it. If you said the iPod storage was to small, or it is the wrong color, then that is fine, but you continually imply that lossless files on an iPod are somehow differant than lossless files on some other digital storage device. That logic does not compute.
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,425
    edited June 2009
    Keiko wrote: »
    OK...I'll try to steer us back on course with this thought. Emotiva ePods. Reference, World Class mp3 players. Think about it. :rolleyes: ;)

    Actually I'm really surprised they don;t have an ePod. It really fits their customer demographic. I suppose just because your an audio company doesn't mean they have to offer something like that..............3-4 years ago I would have never thought a perceived higher end company like Wadia would offer an iPod dock. It's the trend right now and companies who need to make money need to make that compromise and pander to the iPod crowd.

    As soon as Pass Labs offers one.............I'm packing it in and getting a transistor AM radio. I would be done :p;)
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  • SCompRacer
    SCompRacer Posts: 9,090
    edited June 2009
    What's an ipod?
    Keiko wrote: »
    You know, it's a thingamajiggit.

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  • bigred7078
    bigred7078 Posts: 477
    edited June 2009
    heiney9 wrote: »
    Well a std. cda file is 1411kbps (as is a FLAC file) so 256kbps is horrid!!! All lossy is actually horrid for hi-fi use. iPods have their uses.......IMO, as a source in a high end system it leaves a lot to be desired.

    H9

    well thats not my point. I'm just saying their trying to slowly get into better SQ. Peoples harddrive space is not quite there at the moment to allow for such big files.

    I personally don't use itunes files for playing music. My digital music is all .ALAC and .FLAC
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  • Systems
    Systems Posts: 14,873
    edited June 2009
    Keiko wrote: »
    ...When this bad boy hits the mass market I'll be done. This is the Holy Grail to be all, end all. :D
    Believe it or not It's been done already.Audio Technica marketed a portable TT called the Sound Burger back in the early 80's.Those reading the audio rags back then will likely remember it.For some odd reason it was'nt a big sales sucess.:confused:http://www.coolest-gadgets.com/20070925/audio-technica-at-727-sound-burger/
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,425
    edited June 2009
    bigred7078 wrote: »
    well thats not my point. I'm just saying their trying to slowly get into better SQ. Peoples harddrive space is not quite there at the moment to allow for such big files.

    Hate to break it to you but even if the space was unlimited most people don;t give a crap about sound quality. Sure there will always be a small contingent like yourself that would prefer lossless, but most don't care. Download times are double or tripled for lossless files many won;t stand for that.

    Anyways there are hundreds of threads about iPods.............back to Emu
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  • bigred7078
    bigred7078 Posts: 477
    edited June 2009
    heiney9 wrote: »
    Hate to break it to you but even if the space was unlimited most people don;t give a crap about sound quality. Sure there will always be a small contingent like yourself that would prefer lossless, but most don't care. Download times are double or tripled for lossless files many won;t stand for that.

    Anyways there are hundreds of threads about iPods.............back to Emu

    yeeeeah i realize that. Whats your point???? I was referring to the .FLAC bitrate you pointed out. I wasn't saying it would ever be like that, but there is a reason why Apple decided to standardize to 256kbps for the moment.
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  • comfortablycurt
    comfortablycurt Posts: 6,745
    edited June 2009
    GV#27 wrote: »
    Believe it or not It's been done already.Audio Technica marketed a portable TT called the Sound Burger back in the early 80's.Those reading the audio rags back then will likely remember it.For some odd reason it was'nt a big sales sucess.:confused:http://www.coolest-gadgets.com/20070925/audio-technica-at-727-sound-burger/

    Woah...That's awesome!! Incredibly impractical, but awesome none the less.

    I need to pick one of those up sometime, just for the novelty of having a portable turntable...lol

    I wonder how much those fetch on the used market.:confused:
    Keiko wrote: »
    Russman posted this awhile back....When this bad boy hits the mass market I'll be done. This is the Holy Grail to be all, end all. :D

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n33ACfZ45ys

    That's hilarious! I want an iVinyl.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 51,709
    edited June 2009
    I spit on iPod's.
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  • W WALDECKER
    W WALDECKER Posts: 900
    edited June 2009
    F1nut wrote: »
    I spit on iPod's.
    Me too :D
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  • keithpgdrb
    keithpgdrb Posts: 15
    edited January 2010
    Yes, I know this is an older thread. but wow, I came here to find a little info on the Emotiva cd player, and I just waded through about 2 pages of useful content, and 10 pages of bs. The biggest lesson I've learned is that there must not be any moderators on the polk forums. :(
  • Polkitup2
    Polkitup2 Posts: 1,641
    edited January 2010
    Many don't like whiners or Emotiva here.
  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited January 2010
    keithpgdrb wrote: »
    Yes, I know this is an older thread. but wow, I came here to find a little info on the Emotiva cd player, and I just waded through about 2 pages of useful content, and 10 pages of bs. The biggest lesson I've learned is that there must not be any moderators on the polk forums. :(

    Welcome to Club Polk Keith.

    I have to ask you one question though, why come to the Polk Audio forum, a speaker forum, for Emotiva information. Why not go to Emotiva's forum? The moderators there don't allow anti-Emotiva opinions.
  • organ
    organ Posts: 4,969
    edited January 2010
    Keiko wrote: »
    Forget these fanboys guys. Leave em' to their Emo's and juju beans.

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    Bon appetit! ;)


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  • shack
    shack Posts: 11,154
    edited January 2010
    I have to ask you one question though, why come to the Polk Audio forum, a speaker forum, for Emotiva information. Why not go to Emotiva's forum? The moderators there don't allow anti-Emotiva opinions.

    What a concept...got to the EMU site to get your possitive EMU reviews. :rolleyes:
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 51,709
    edited January 2010
    keithpgdrb wrote: »
    Yes, I know this is an older thread. but wow, I came here to find a little info on the Emotiva cd player, and I just waded through about 2 pages of useful content, and 10 pages of bs. The biggest lesson I've learned is that there must not be any moderators on the polk forums. :(

    Why so EMOtional?
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited January 2010