Parasound HCA-1206, Velodyne DPS-12, Vintage Stereo system

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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,163
    edited August 2008
    disneyjoe7 wrote: »
    Ok Chris got an email last Friday 8/15/08.... Basically it said no they will not refund his money because it was a private sale and not an Ebay sale. WTF? So I got him to call them today and they say yes its there policy, but they will review again. :rolleyes:

    I knew about the email from 4 days ago, I'm so pissed about I have trouble even talking about. This was Chris first sale / buy, I'm sure it will be he's last. That's sad.

    Wait a minute......who said it's not covered because it wasn't bought on Ebay? UPS said this in an e-mail? Firstly they don't deal with anything in email and secondly as I stated in another thread form my job I have been reviewing the Service Manuals for all the retail carriers and I just was reading the UPS manual and nowhere is their any verbiage about it not being covered outside of Ebay.

    More info please.
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,163
    edited August 2008
    Keiko wrote: »
    If he misrepresented the items condition or conditions of sale, then that falls under "fraud" They don't guarantee that they can recover any money but, it would be in the sellers best interest to refund the purchase rather than get fraud charges slapped against him. The US Postal Service has jurisdiction when it comes to internet fraud. And believe me, from an experience I had. They do investigate this kind of crap. It's been suggested in this thread already that the seller misrepresented the amps condition, right?

    He didn't use the US Postal Service so they won't touch it anymore than they will go after Best Buy if you walk in an purchase a bad TV.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited August 2008
    I've been following this thread for days now,,disneyjoe,, where are things at right now? Any co-operation from the dylanblada person?Is there an end in sight? I hope that things get worked out for the buyer,,Chris?,,I can only imagine the stress and anxiety generated over this deal. I cannot understand how the seller sleeps at all,,when the Karma hits,,I hope it's big. This is just sad.
    JC approves....he told me so. (F-1 nut)
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  • disneyjoe7
    disneyjoe7 Posts: 11,435
    edited August 2008
    heiney9 wrote: »
    Wait a minute......who said it's not covered because it wasn't bought on Ebay? UPS said this in an e-mail? Firstly they don't deal with anything in email and secondly as I stated in another thread form my job I have been reviewing the Service Manuals for all the retail carriers and I just was reading the UPS manual and nowhere is their any verbiage about it not being covered outside of Ebay.

    More info please.

    This is what Chris told me by his Email and Phone call to PayPal, but I haven't seen this email myself. I told Chris to link this thread to PayPal, as no one is happy with Dylan and if PayPal is doing this I sure people with not use PayPal.

    Karma is getting bigger. ;) :rolleyes:

    Speakers
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    CS400i Center
    RT800i's Rears
    Sub Paradigm Servo 15

    Electronics
    Conrad Johnson PV-5 pre-amp
    Parasound Halo A23
    Pioneer 84TXSi AVR
    Pioneer 79Avi DVD
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    WMC Win7 32bit HD DVR


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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,453
    edited August 2008
    heiney9 wrote: »
    He didn't use the US Postal Service so they won't touch it anymore than they will go after Best Buy if you walk in an purchase a bad TV.

    H9


    Bingo!
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

    President of Club Polk

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  • disneyjoe7
    disneyjoe7 Posts: 11,435
    edited August 2008
    F1nut wrote: »
    Bingo!


    I agree, but no one wants to do anything today.... Everyone just points fingers to each other. :rolleyes:

    Speakers
    Carver Amazing Fronts
    CS400i Center
    RT800i's Rears
    Sub Paradigm Servo 15

    Electronics
    Conrad Johnson PV-5 pre-amp
    Parasound Halo A23
    Pioneer 84TXSi AVR
    Pioneer 79Avi DVD
    Sony CX400 CD changer
    Panasonic 42-PX60U Plasma
    WMC Win7 32bit HD DVR


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  • schwarcw
    schwarcw Posts: 7,335
    edited August 2008
    So deadbeat Dylan is non-communicado eh?
    Carl

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  • snow
    snow Posts: 4,337
    edited August 2008
    schwarcw wrote: »
    So deadbeat Dylan is non-communicado eh?
    He hasnt posted here. http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1048094&page=4 since the 17th either it looks like the last post was mine.



    REGARDS SNOW
    Well, I just pulled off the impossible by doing a double-blind comparison all by myself, purely by virtue of the fact that I completely and stupidly forgot what I did last. I guess that getting old does have its advantages after all :D
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  • disneyjoe7
    disneyjoe7 Posts: 11,435
    edited August 2008
    How you're Jim :)

    Nice post BTW almost PM'd you for that last post I didn't know that was you ;)

    Speakers
    Carver Amazing Fronts
    CS400i Center
    RT800i's Rears
    Sub Paradigm Servo 15

    Electronics
    Conrad Johnson PV-5 pre-amp
    Parasound Halo A23
    Pioneer 84TXSi AVR
    Pioneer 79Avi DVD
    Sony CX400 CD changer
    Panasonic 42-PX60U Plasma
    WMC Win7 32bit HD DVR


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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,453
    edited August 2008
    Steve, you need to tell Chris to stop dicking around, go down to the courthouse and file a lawsuit in small claims. It may be the only way to stop Dylan from doing this to someone else.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

    President of Club Polk

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  • disneyjoe7
    disneyjoe7 Posts: 11,435
    edited August 2008
    Copy of email sent to Chris, note major details x'd out.



    Dear Christian,

    Our investigation into your claim is complete. As stated in our User
    Agreement, the claims process only applies to the shipment of goods. It
    does not apply to complaints about the attributes or quality of goods
    received. Therefore, we are unable to reverse this transaction or issue a
    refund.

    Transaction Details


    Seller's Name: Dylan Blada
    Seller's Email: XXXXXXXXXX@XXXXX.com
    Seller's Transaction ID: ***************

    Transaction Date: Aug 1, 2008
    Transaction Amount: -$560.00 USD




    I don't really understand this myself :confused:

    Speakers
    Carver Amazing Fronts
    CS400i Center
    RT800i's Rears
    Sub Paradigm Servo 15

    Electronics
    Conrad Johnson PV-5 pre-amp
    Parasound Halo A23
    Pioneer 84TXSi AVR
    Pioneer 79Avi DVD
    Sony CX400 CD changer
    Panasonic 42-PX60U Plasma
    WMC Win7 32bit HD DVR


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  • shack
    shack Posts: 11,154
    edited August 2008
    It seems that they are missing the fact the item was damaged DURING shipment and not just that you are not satisfied with the quality of the item. SOMEONE needs to follow up and make sure they get it right!
    "Just because you’re offended doesn’t mean you’re right." - Ricky Gervais

    "For those who believe, no proof is necessary. For those who don't believe, no proof is possible." - Stuart Chase

    "Consistency requires you to be as ignorant today as you were a year ago." - Bernard Berenson
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  • Cochise
    Cochise Posts: 52
    edited August 2008
    snow wrote: »
    It looks like you have bought at least 11 times on here so I am assuming the same reason/s you have. It was something you wanted and you felt you could trust the fellow selling it to you or at least the risk was acceptable. Of course the people you bought from had a very good rep on here as being solid peeps.

    There will always be risk whether you buy from here or ebay,the only thing one can do is to attempt to lower that risk to an acceptable level. Personally I think that the flea market rules should be changed to a minimum of 200 posts and membership for 6 months to buy or sell something, in addition the first time someone sells something they should be required to ship and the item received in the same condition at time of sale before payment is sent by the buyer if the value of the object is $250.00 or more.

    Just my 2 cents :D



    REGARDS SNOW


    So according to your rules, someone can hang around for 6 months, then easily con a new seller.

    No matter what, trust is a big issue here. As is respect when selling privately. Obviously, respect was not present when Dylan refused to return payment.

    Me personally, if someone had an issue I wouldnt think twice, I would give back the money. Its really not that hard of a concept.
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  • snow
    snow Posts: 4,337
    edited August 2008
    Cochise wrote: »
    So according to your rules, someone can hang around for 6 months, then easily con a new seller.

    No matter what, trust is a big issue here. As is respect when selling privately. Obviously, respect was not present when Dylan refused to return payment.

    Me personally, if someone had an issue I wouldnt think twice, I would give back the money. Its really not that hard of a concept.
    I think that with both partys buyer and seller having a minimum of 6 months membership and 200 posts the likelyhood of getting ripped off is far less than the current system, and chances are by the time you have made 200 posts on here the buyer and seller both can get a feeling for each other by looking at some of there posts. Is this idea perfect? no but better than we currently have.




    REGARDS SNOW
    Well, I just pulled off the impossible by doing a double-blind comparison all by myself, purely by virtue of the fact that I completely and stupidly forgot what I did last. I guess that getting old does have its advantages after all :D
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  • McLoki
    McLoki Posts: 5,231
    edited August 2008
    Never mind - found out this much, not worth the added $2 unless we really need to find him...

    Dylan Blada Age - 23 Kenosha, WI

    He is a private security person though. Thats gotta be a cool job...

    Michael
    Mains.............Polk LSi15 (Cherry)
    Center............Polk LSiC (Crossover upgraded)
    Surrounds.......Polk LSi7 (Gloss Black - wood sides removed and crossovers upgraded)
    Subwoofers.....SVS 25-31 CS+ and PC+ (both 20hz tune)
    Pre\Pro...........NAD T163 (Modded with LM4562 opamps)
    Amplifier.........Cinepro 3k6 (6-channel, 500wpc@4ohms)
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  • McLoki
    McLoki Posts: 5,231
    edited August 2008
    Actually it looks like he lasted in that job for about a month. Guess he wasn't cut out for a job that requires integrity. His license expires this Sunday.
    Mains.............Polk LSi15 (Cherry)
    Center............Polk LSiC (Crossover upgraded)
    Surrounds.......Polk LSi7 (Gloss Black - wood sides removed and crossovers upgraded)
    Subwoofers.....SVS 25-31 CS+ and PC+ (both 20hz tune)
    Pre\Pro...........NAD T163 (Modded with LM4562 opamps)
    Amplifier.........Cinepro 3k6 (6-channel, 500wpc@4ohms)
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  • MikeC78
    MikeC78 Posts: 2,315
    edited August 2008
    Yeah, reminds me of those **** clowns that work at State Farm.:p
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  • McLoki
    McLoki Posts: 5,231
    edited August 2008
    MikeC78 wrote: »
    Yeah, reminds me of those **** clowns that work at State Farm.:p

    We prefer "posterior comedians" if you don't mind.... :p
    Mains.............Polk LSi15 (Cherry)
    Center............Polk LSiC (Crossover upgraded)
    Surrounds.......Polk LSi7 (Gloss Black - wood sides removed and crossovers upgraded)
    Subwoofers.....SVS 25-31 CS+ and PC+ (both 20hz tune)
    Pre\Pro...........NAD T163 (Modded with LM4562 opamps)
    Amplifier.........Cinepro 3k6 (6-channel, 500wpc@4ohms)
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  • shadowofnight
    shadowofnight Posts: 2,735
    edited August 2008
    Steve, your first PM to him was dated the 9th....we are now the 27th....any new updates ?
    The first rule of Fight Club is you don't talk about Fight Club
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  • disneyjoe7
    disneyjoe7 Posts: 11,435
    edited August 2008
    No nothing at all from him here or at AVS, I'm sure he's looking but not man enough to the right thing.

    Speakers
    Carver Amazing Fronts
    CS400i Center
    RT800i's Rears
    Sub Paradigm Servo 15

    Electronics
    Conrad Johnson PV-5 pre-amp
    Parasound Halo A23
    Pioneer 84TXSi AVR
    Pioneer 79Avi DVD
    Sony CX400 CD changer
    Panasonic 42-PX60U Plasma
    WMC Win7 32bit HD DVR


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  • mhartman29
    mhartman29 Posts: 257
    edited September 2008
    Disney, any updates? Echoing Keiko's comments, would love to hear that this guy made things right or got what's coming to him.
    Emotiva LMC pre/pro
    Emotiva LPA amp
    Fronts LSI15
    Center LSIC
    Rears LSI7s
    Dual MFW-15s
    Oppo 980H
    Signal Analog II ICs
    Signal Ultra speaker cables
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  • disneyjoe7
    disneyjoe7 Posts: 11,435
    edited September 2008
    I asked Chris about this yesterday, there's been nothing from Dylan. So I'm sure he doesn't wish to man up here. I sorry to report that Chris will not pursue this in court, which I would personally enjoy, but truly isn't my call.

    Speakers
    Carver Amazing Fronts
    CS400i Center
    RT800i's Rears
    Sub Paradigm Servo 15

    Electronics
    Conrad Johnson PV-5 pre-amp
    Parasound Halo A23
    Pioneer 84TXSi AVR
    Pioneer 79Avi DVD
    Sony CX400 CD changer
    Panasonic 42-PX60U Plasma
    WMC Win7 32bit HD DVR


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