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  • Airplay355
    Airplay355 Posts: 4,298
    edited September 2006
    Damnit Brett leave the demons alone.

    I'm not trying to prove or disprove religion.

    I do think if you are trying to convert someone you should use something else besides "the storm clouds of armageddon swiftly approach" so basically hurry up and be a Jehova Witness or you're going to hell. Doesn't really make sense to me.
  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited September 2006
    brettw22 wrote:
    I've had lots of people on their knees sid.............lol (i'll stop now)

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  • unc2701
    unc2701 Posts: 3,587
    edited September 2006
    So I used to rent a room to this **** guy... one sunday afternoon the doorbell rings and there's the Jehovah's witnesses. Normally, I just swing the door back shut and don't even respond, but they looked familiar and I thought maybe they were my neighbors, so I'd pretend to listen, give them the old, "No thanks, I'm catholic" [well, used to be] and send them on their way.

    they're about done with their thing and they're getting ready to hand me a pamphlet, when my **** roommate walks up in nothing but a jockstrap, slaps me on the **** and says [in his worst lisp], "Sweetie, come back to bed..."

    I start laughing my **** off, the JW's are staring at me, horrified, then finally, the one, goes, "Here, you need THIS pamplet" and shoves a different one than the one he had been getting ready at me -I got the special **** burn in hell one.

    Anyhow, it amuses me that creationists reject as completely rediculous any creation story that isn't one of the two different ones in the bible... but, hey, if you wanna be like that, knock yourself out... but you should probably not take any phamaceuticals- they tend to rely on things like science, evolution, logic, what have you.


    Edit: Looking back, I gotta wonder what the hell he was doing with a jockstrap... he didn't know volleyball from baseball...
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  • Airplay355
    Airplay355 Posts: 4,298
    edited September 2006
    haahaa!!! thats hilarious unc!!!...nothing like having fun with the religious boogey men :)
  • brettw22
    brettw22 Posts: 7,624
    edited September 2006
    unc2701 wrote:
    Edit: Looking back, I gotta wonder what the hell he was doing with a jockstrap... he didn't know volleyball from baseball...
    I know.........lol
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  • mrbigbluelight
    mrbigbluelight Posts: 9,786
    edited September 2006
    brettw22 wrote:
    I've had lots of people on their knees sid.............lol (i'll stop now)

    Brettw22, I guess you're one of those lucky people that Barbara Streisand sings about.

    You know.......

    "People,
    People who KNEED People,
    Are the Luckiest People in the World"


    I know.....not quite as good as my "fryer egg-stinguisher", but .... still good enough to put points on the board !!
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  • Airplay355
    Airplay355 Posts: 4,298
    edited September 2006
    Haahaa, see religion is fun :)
  • brettw22
    brettw22 Posts: 7,624
    edited September 2006
    You're more **** for knowing a Barbara Streisand song.........

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  • Airplay355
    Airplay355 Posts: 4,298
    edited September 2006
    You're both **** and you're both going to hell. Suckers, I'll be driving the express bus to hell. I'll pick you guys up at 6.
  • PolkThug
    PolkThug Posts: 7,532
    edited September 2006
    It is a fact that some oragnisms can evolve/adapt/mutate/whatever and reproduce. If you don't believe me, talk to the scientists at the CDC.
    However, ignorance is bliss.

    I would think that a talented "creator" would include the ability to evolve in their creations.

    Mac, good points.
    Bluelight, good cat pics!
  • Airplay355
    Airplay355 Posts: 4,298
    edited September 2006
    Ever see mission to mars? Isn't the talented creator in that movie aliens who started life on this planet? I could buy that. I'm not going to base my entire life on that belief but it seems plausable enough to me. I wouldn't dismiss it atleast.
  • Strong Bad
    Strong Bad Posts: 4,278
    edited September 2006
    brettw22 wrote:
    I've had lots of people on their knees sid.............lol (i'll stop now)

    Brett, priceless man! LMAO!

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  • cfrizz
    cfrizz Posts: 13,415
    edited September 2006
    :D ROFLMAO!!!!! Brett, George, BBL & UNC Thanks for putting me in tears here from laughter!!!! You guys are the best! WAAAAAAAAAAA!:D :D:D

    Thank God I wasn't drinking anything at the time!:D
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  • MrNightly
    MrNightly Posts: 3,370
    edited September 2006
    unc2701 wrote:
    Anyhow, it amuses me that creationists reject as completely rediculous any creation story that isn't one of the two different ones in the bible...

    What are the two different ones in the bible? I thought there was only one... creation in the first book...
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  • mrbigbluelight
    mrbigbluelight Posts: 9,786
    edited September 2006
    brettw22 wrote:
    You're more **** for knowing a Barbara Streisand song.........

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    But I don't know the song, only that particular refrain !

    So, deducting the appropriate points for that, plus additional credit for getting those lazy, hard-headed cats to play ping pong, and the fact that I rescinded my Clay Aiken's Fan Club membership quite a while back, well....
    ....lessee.......Yep, I see my ranking puts me right by Clint Eastwood for heterosexualisness.

    .....not that Clay Aiken is **** or anything. :rolleyes:
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  • brettw22
    brettw22 Posts: 7,624
    edited September 2006
    So you're not denying you have a Streisand reference......

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  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited September 2006
    But for the ultimate test:

    Mrbigbluelight - Can you name at least one Liza Manelli song?
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  • univera
    univera Posts: 848
    edited September 2006
    audiobliss wrote:
    You'd be amazed at the amount of scientific discoveries that have popped up in the last few years that validate Biblical principles and archeological discoveries that support history as recorded in the Bible, whereas these principles and claims were previously hotly contested by the 'scientific' community before.

    It's a fact that evolution is a 'crutch' scientists and others are using to avoid accountability to a god, God.

    If you're interested in it, look up the concept of irreducible complexity. That in and of itself disputes evolution sufficiently for me. And remember that Darwin himself only held onto evolution as a theory, not an explanation for the earth's origin. He admitted in his own writings that later discoveries may very well disprove his theory.

    Anyhoo, I hope I didn't get too opinionated with my reponse. :)

    AB and anyone else: If you can't look at an ape and then look at a human being and see a fairly strong resemblence, than you are blind. I am sure there are lots of jokes to be inserted, but you know what I mean. What I don't understand is, why can't people believe that a God created this planet and human beings and that we evolved. Essentially, the bible is an interpretive book/story that doesn't have to be taken literally. Just because it says the earth was created in seven days doesn't mean it was LITERALLY created in seven days. A day could represent hundreds, thousands of days, weeks, whatever. The bible has always been open to intepretation. I know for a fact that the Old Testament has several, well-regared "interpreters" that would explain the meaning of text that otherwise seem hard to explain or confusing.

    That's why I just don't get all the fuss. We look like early man and current apes/gorillas. How hard is that to see? Why deny that? That doesn't mean there isn't a higher power that set things in motion. I'm the last one to believe this miracle we call a body and all the amazing things around us happened by chance. Some higher power, whether the god of Moses, Jesus, Buddah or the God of those fanatics in the Middle East set things in motion. But, that god is all one and the same, open to intepretation. Yet, there is only one higher power, IMO.

    So anyone trying to convice me otherwise wastes his or her breath. I respect your opinion and feelings toward your religion, just don't come knockin' on my door, no matter how strongly you feel. If I need redemption or am unhappy with my spirituality, I will seek you out....:) Its a fact: we evolved and are related to early beings. Why is that so difficult for some people to accept?
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  • dragon1952
    dragon1952 Posts: 4,907
    edited September 2006
    MacLeod wrote:
    Hell anybody in here over 30, remember back to your highschool. How many 16 year old dudes were in there that looked like Grizzly Adams! Now look at your typical 16 year old today. Theyre scrawny by comparison and virtually have no body hair.

    LOL!!! I didn't know we changed that rapidly :rolleyes: That's probably got more to do with depletion of the ozone or global warming.....or video games!....yeah, that's it! It's from staying indoors and playing video games from the time they can walk instead of being outside playing manly games like 'army' and 'cowboys and indians'! :D
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  • George Grand
    George Grand Posts: 12,258
    edited September 2006
    "Wanna peel a tomato?"

    If you have to ask, don't ask.



    MacLeod, all the 16 year old dudes that looked like Griz Adams in MY high school during the 60's, were really 22 or 23 and had been left back a few times. Their INTELLIGENCE, not their appearance, was their Cro-Mag connection.
  • univera
    univera Posts: 848
    edited September 2006
    brettw22 wrote:
    I've had lots of people on their knees sid.............lol (i'll stop now)

    It doesn't count unless they're women:D .....
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  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited September 2006
    My theory is that back when we were growing up (those of us 33 and older) chances are we worked pretty hard and were outside a lot. Riding bikes, playing sports what have you. These days, kids have grown up inside the house playing Playstation and rarely go outside. Just drive thru a typical neighborhood and compare it to the one you grew up in. Virtually no kids outside playing baseball or riding bikes.

    Also, a lot more kids today grew up not having to go outside and have to work. And even when we got jobs it was usually manual labor. Nowadays kids get jobs at a mall where there is plenty of AC.

    We evolve into what our environment demand of us and today with all these countless wonderful things like freezing AC, plenty of good food easily available and plenty of jobs in nice comfy places and hard physical labor becoming a thing of the past, we are evolving (or devolving) into a species that doesnt need to be covered in hair or have 5 o'clock shadow at noon or be physically strong.
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  • cfrizz
    cfrizz Posts: 13,415
    edited September 2006
    Only for some people. Different strokes for different folks. Live & let live, no one has the right to say what counts for everyone else! It all boils down to
    MYOB!!!!:D

    univera wrote:
    It doesn't count unless they're women:D .....
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  • cfrizz
    cfrizz Posts: 13,415
    edited September 2006
    I can go along with this theory Mac!:)
    MacLeod wrote:
    My theory is that back when we were growing up (those of us 33 and older) chances are we worked pretty hard and were outside a lot. Riding bikes, playing sports what have you. These days, kids have grown up inside the house playing Playstation and rarely go outside. Just drive thru a typical neighborhood and compare it to the one you grew up in. Virtually no kids outside playing baseball or riding bikes.

    Also, a lot more kids today grew up not having to go outside and have to work. And even when we got jobs it was usually manual labor. Nowadays kids get jobs at a mall where there is plenty of AC.

    We evolve into what our environment demand of us and today with all these countless wonderful things like freezing AC, plenty of good food easily available and plenty of jobs in nice comfy places and hard physical labor becoming a thing of the past, we are evolving (or devolving) into a species that doesnt need to be covered in hair or have 5 o'clock shadow at noon or be physically strong.
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,194
    edited September 2006
    audiobliss wrote:
    You'd be amazed at the amount of scientific discoveries that have popped up in the last few years that validate Biblical principles and archeological discoveries that support history as recorded in the Bible, whereas these principles and claims were previously hotly contested by the 'scientific' community before.

    It's a fact that evolution is a 'crutch' scientists and others are using to avoid accountability to a god, God.

    If you're interested in it, look up the concept of irreducible complexity. That in and of itself disputes evolution sufficiently for me. And remember that Darwin himself only held onto evolution as a theory, not an explanation for the earth's origin. He admitted in his own writings that later discoveries may very well disprove his theory.

    Anyhoo, I hope I didn't get too opinionated with my reponse. :)


    Twist it any way you want.....there will never be a true answer to the question. There are those that have strong beliefs and their belief are enough, and that's what helps them sleep at night. There are those who need more rational proof and have less belief and that's what helps them sleep at night. Then there are those that fall infinetly in between the 2 extremes, no one is right or wrong and we are all allowed to practice our beliefs. This really isn't the place for this stuff. :)

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  • venomclan
    venomclan Posts: 2,467
    edited September 2006
  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,194
    edited September 2006
    venomclan wrote:
    Lemmy is God

    Pagey is a "god" and Percy is a "golden god", he said so himself; no one had to interpret it. ;)

    H9
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  • Airplay355
    Airplay355 Posts: 4,298
    edited September 2006
    i wonder why we even have religion. Dogs don't have religion. Apes don't have religion (even though we are 98% genetically identical to some of them). Kinda funny how that 2% makes all the difference huh.

    Couple of extra molecules hangin on our genetic code and poof, religion.
  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,194
    edited September 2006
    That's an easy one. Dogs only care about food and Apes only care about bananna's. As long as they get either they don't care where they came from.

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  • Airplay355
    Airplay355 Posts: 4,298
    edited September 2006
    Then why the hell do we? lol