Signal cable risers? Legit of bullsh*t?
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No one has even mentioned that these are the NEW MODEL cable risers. Most of your comments sound like they are in reference to the former riser models. . . but this one blows them all away!
After replacing the old ones with 32 of the new model bad boys in my monitor system, I would put it up against any of your higher end rigs. Makes the monitors sound like Wilson's.
If you are looking to upgrade systems, I would do it in this order:
1.Cable risers
2.Cryogenically froze wires
3.Air purifiers
4.Mood rings
5.DAC
6.Pre
7.Pro
8.New Speakers
On a more serious note. . .
With all the good reviews of Frank, I don't think commenting on "Cable Risers" in general is any kind of slam on him. There is a demand for cable risers from someone/somewhere (not in any way started by Signal Cable) and he is catering to that market demand. I have no problems, especially since the mark-up on the shot glasses from SC probably isn't comparable to what Bose, Monster, and thousands of specialty audio places tack on.Stereo Rig: Hales Revelation 3, Musical Fidelity CD-Pre 24, Forte Model 3 amp, Lexicon RT-10 SACD, MMF-5 w/speedbox, Forte Model 2 Phono Pre, Cardas Crosslink, APC H15, URC MX-950, Lovan Stand
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I can tell you exactly the two words that would come out of my wife's mouth after reading this thread -- glass houses
As in, "you spent how many more hundreds of dollars on extra amplification to achieve these results?!? Yet $45 clams can generate this much controversy?!?"
Yeah, to many of our ears, the results are obvious with certain upgrades and not so obvious with others.
But of one thing, I'm sure -- I'd have a helluva lot easier time justifying $45 dollars for cable risers than I would $500 for 100 extra watts. Perspective ladies and gents, perspective.:)I never had it like this where I grew up. But I send my kids here because the fact is you go to one of the best schools in the country: Rushmore. Now, for some of you it doesn't matter. You were born rich and you're going to stay rich. But here's my advice to the rest of you: Take dead aim on the rich boys. Get them in the crosshairs and take them down. Just remember, they can buy anything but they can't buy backbone. Don't let them forget it. Thank you.Herman Blume - Rushmore -
I would think that if anything, it would be carpet induced static. About once a year I spray anti-static spray on my rug behind the cabinet, don't know if it makes any difference, but static is really bad in my dry climate.Source: Bluesound Node 2i - Preamp/DAC: Benchmark DAC2 DX - Amp: Parasound Halo A21 - Speakers: MartinLogan Motion 60XTi - Shop Rig: Yamaha A-S501 Integrated - Shop Spkrs: Elac Debut 2.0 B5.2
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steveinaz wrote:I would think that if anything, it would be carpet induced static. About once a year I spray anti-static spray on my rug behind the cabinet, don't know if it makes any difference, but static is really bad in my dry climate.George Grand wrote: »
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45 bucks... 8 risers... why the hell not...
Im really going to consider these when I put in my next SC order...- Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit. -
Sid, what're you getting from them next?George Grand wrote: »
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audiobliss wrote:Sid, what're you getting from them next?
Must be something for free judging by the way he's pumping them . I'm sure he'll get some use out of them though. I mean it'll only be five years before he can drink shots of wine spritzers out of them.
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Honestly, right now...
I dont know...
I was going to go with something different, then I read this thread and I remembered why I bought from them from the get go... haha- Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit. -
As one of the members who benefited from the SC giveaway at PF05 and also saw a number of cables given away at 04 I have to say SC has an been an established supporter of the club. But then we all are aware of this aren't we?
The PF givewaway's are drawings and part of the fun of the fest's.
I have no bones with anyone that wants to use or purchase risers, hell, I just might buy some one day.
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I guess I am confused by this thread. I thought the question was whether we thought wire risers were BS or not. It appears to have been turned around to be whether companies that sell them are BS or not.
Personally I think risers are BS. I also have no qualms with the company Signal Cables and would recommend them to people seeking purchasing speaker wire.
Heck even Walmart, K-Mart, Target, Lowes, Home Depot, etc. sell water fountains. They serve no purpose and are just there to look at. I do not get mad at these companies for selling something that serves no purpose other than aesthetics to me but may be something that is Fung Shui to others. Therefore how can I be mad as Signal Cable for selling something that serves no purpose to me but fills the needs of others?
Next we will be burning books or churches because they convey something one of us does not agree with. Humbug!Holydoc (Home Theatre Lover)
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Right on, Holydoc!I am sorry, I have no opinion on the matter. I am sure you do. So, don't mind me, I just want to talk audio and pie.
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dorokusai wrote:This place makes me giggle.
DK, you should really see about getting some cable risers for donation for this upcoming Polkfest:) Hell, I'll bet quite a few sets have been sold already, not including the 4 that Macleod bought....MC, I'm not doggin ya. Just having fun! I never knew this post would generate so much controversy or popcorn eating.....I'm not buying any. I've already got 4, 14K gold, diamond studded units on my Bose system. Fills the room.UNIVERA
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univera - do you have the 14K gold risers with princess cut diamonds, cuz those are like 2 riser generations old now. They then went to a softer 18K gold with emerald cut, and finally platinum with heart cut diamonds and ruby encrusting.
Get with the times. Makes my Polk monitors sound almost as good as the 3-2-1. . . almostStereo Rig: Hales Revelation 3, Musical Fidelity CD-Pre 24, Forte Model 3 amp, Lexicon RT-10 SACD, MMF-5 w/speedbox, Forte Model 2 Phono Pre, Cardas Crosslink, APC H15, URC MX-950, Lovan Stand
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univera wrote:DK, you should really see about getting some cable risers for donation for this upcoming Polkfest:) Hell, I'll bet quite a few sets have been sold already, not including the 4 that Macleod bought....MC, I'm not doggin ya. Just having fun! I never knew this post would generate so much controversy or popcorn eating.....I'm not buying any. I've already got 4, 14K gold, diamond studded units on my Bose system. Fills the room.
Too funny!Holydoc (Home Theatre Lover)
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Onkyo -TX-NR901 Receiver
Oppo -Oppo 980HD Universal DVD Player
Outlaw -770 (7x200watt) Amplifier
PolkAudio - RTi12 (Left and Right)
PolkAudio - CSi5 (Center)
PolkAudio - FXi3 (Back and Surround)
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Bluejean Cables - Interconnects
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Some people hang their cables with fishing line from the ceiling. The ceiling does not vibrate like the floor thus your cables do not vibrate. The theory is that when they vibrate or get moved about they tend to need more burn in.
madmaxVinyl, the final frontier...
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I have mine riding on a cushion of air, hovering about three inches above the magic carpet. Talk about lowering the noise floor...
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The ceiling doesn't vibrate like the floor I not sure about that I think my ceiling can move more then my floor. The ceiling being so large it has to vibrate the heck my walls vibrate why not my ceiling?
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madmax wrote:Some people hang their cables with fishing line from the ceiling. The ceiling does not vibrate like the floor thus your cables do not vibrate. The theory is that when they vibrate or get moved about they tend to need more burn in.
madmax
Plus, chicks dig this look.;) No one has even mentioned this singular, yet all-important benefit.
But the Signal Cable Risers...."They're too legit to quit." I feel this would be a great slogan for the product. I wonder if the guy at Signal has any clue the firestorm his product has created here at Club Definitive Polkology:pUNIVERA
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You'll get better treble with a higher riser, and better bass with a lower riser.
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disneyjoe7 wrote:The ceiling doesn't vibrate like the floor I not sure about that I think my ceiling can move more then my floor. The ceiling being so large it has to vibrate the heck my walls vibrate why not my ceiling?
When playing something loud, plug one ear and put the other one against the walls ceiling and floor and see. If any of them have a lot of movement putting your forehead against them will be telling. Some of the floor movement is downward facing subs or subs in general just because they are physically connected. The walls and ceiling are not connected to the floor and tend to not get as excited. It can go the other way depending on where everything is located though...
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My floor is a concrete slab, the walls are 2x4 studs the ceiling is that a ceiling above that is Attic. My sofa can move in the room sitting on carpet over concrete slab, you think my walls aren't moving! I don't how to test for it but I can almost 100% say my ceiling is moving also.
BTW I don't use any wimpy book shelve speakers.
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Lots of people buy these risers just because they like the way they look. Sort of like audio jewelry.Proud and loyal citizen of the Digital Domain and Solid State Country!
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Like someone mentioned, they are a neat way to keep cables tidy and routed away from power cables if nothing else. If there are other potential benefits, no matter how far fetched some may think they are (such as isolating the cable from static electricity or whatever), then it's just an added benefit. it's not like they cost an arm and a leg. If you want to argue about claims companies make why not argue about how ethical it is to picture an unrealistic looking hamburger or sandwich (or whatever) on TV which looks absolutely nothing like the one you get when you go there :rolleyes: I like the ones with the shrimp pasta where the commercial shows like 2 dozen shrimp and when you order it you're lucky to find 62 channel - Willsenton R8 tube integrated, Holo Audio Spring 3 KTE DAC, audio optimized NUC7i5, Windows 10 Pro/JRiver MC29/Fidelizer Plus 8.7 w/LPS and external SSD drive, PS Audio PerfectWave P3 regenerator, KEF R3 speakers, Rythmik F12SE subwoofer, Audioquest Diamond USB cable, Gabriel Gold IC's, Morrow Audio SP5 speaker cables. Computer - Windows 10/JRiver, Schiit Magni 3+/Modi 3+, Fostex PMO.4n monitors, Sennheiser HD600 headphones