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  • unc2701
    unc2701 Posts: 3,587
    edited July 2006
    jdhdiggs wrote:
    I just read it the same way most here read it. Perhaps it's not all of our reading comprehension abilities that are faulty, but rather your ability to write your ideas clearly.


    Maybe, but i think we've still got a little bit of an overactive persecution complex going on here.

    Anyhow, yeah, we're stuck there for awhile, but once we're out, I think they'll focus more on killing each other (and israel) than us.
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  • BIZILL
    BIZILL Posts: 5,432
    edited July 2006
    i think, imho, that they have equal hatred for israel and the US. we'll always be in their crosshairs. the object is to open their eyes to the fact that we are an opponant that cannot be beat.

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    bobman1235 wrote:
    I have no facts to back that up, but I never let facts get in the way of my arguments.
  • unc2701
    unc2701 Posts: 3,587
    edited July 2006
    BIZILL wrote:
    i think, imho, that they have equal hatred for israel and the US.

    As of right now, I think that we might just win that contest :)
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  • jdhdiggs
    jdhdiggs Posts: 4,305
    edited July 2006
    unc2701 wrote:
    Maybe, but i think we've still got a little bit of an overactive persecution complex going on here.

    Anyhow, yeah, we're stuck there for awhile, but once we're out, I think they'll focus more on killing each other (and israel) than us.


    You mean you do, right doctor? You were the one who blew up... In fact, you are usually the one that blows up... And your the one bringing up mental health issues... Hmmm....
    There is no genuine justice in any scheme of feeding and coddling the loafer whose only ponderable energies are devoted wholly to reproduction. Nine-tenths of the rights he bellows for are really privileges and he does nothing to deserve them. We not only acquired a vast population of morons, we have inculcated all morons, old or young, with the doctrine that the decent and industrious people of the country are bound to support them for all time.-Menkin
  • PolkThug
    PolkThug Posts: 7,532
    edited July 2006
    We've heard about the few Israeli soldiers that were kidnapped. How many Lebanese have been "arrested"/"kidnapped" by the Israelis over the last couple years?
  • BIZILL
    BIZILL Posts: 5,432
    edited July 2006
    the most commited wins.

    just another case of 'having to chose the lesser evil'.

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    bobman1235 wrote:
    I have no facts to back that up, but I never let facts get in the way of my arguments.
  • ND13
    ND13 Posts: 7,601
    edited July 2006
    Okay, it's been noted(somewhere, I don't know where and I'm not looking it up) that hundreds of nuclear warheads(removed from missles) are still not accounted for in Russia. Does anyone really know how many?? So let's say there were only 75 missing, okay? Are any of you naive enough to believe that some Muslim nation(namely Iran) out there hasn't already bought themselves a couple two or three from some corrupt Russian official??? Why do you think they were observing the North Korean missle launches, just recently??? They need a delivery system!!!!!

    So just where are all those missing warheads, huh???
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  • BIZILL
    BIZILL Posts: 5,432
    edited July 2006
    ND13 wrote:
    Okay, it's been noted(somewhere, I don't know where and I'm not looking it up) that hundreds of nuclear warheads(removed from missles) are still not accounted for in Russia. Does anyone really know how many?? So let's say there were only 75 missing, okay? Are any of you naive enough to believe that some Muslim nation(namely Iran) out there hasn't already bought themselves a couple two or three from some corrupt Russian official??? Why do you think they were observing the North Korean missle launches, just recently??? They need a delivery system!!!!!

    So just where are all those missing warheads, huh???
    conspiracy theory. but i'm right there with ya. that's why i feel weird, this time around.

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    bobman1235 wrote:
    I have no facts to back that up, but I never let facts get in the way of my arguments.
  • ND13
    ND13 Posts: 7,601
    edited July 2006
    I'm not too sure that this is a conspiracy theory or not. All I know, is I don't want to take any chances. Those **** are crazy enough to actually use one and once they have a reliable delivery system, they will.

    Hopefully it is!!

    I'll err on the side of caution.
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  • Skynut
    Skynut Posts: 2,967
    edited July 2006
    ND13 wrote:
    Okay, it's been noted(somewhere, I don't know where and I'm not looking it up) that hundreds of nuclear warheads(removed from missles) are still not accounted for in Russia. Does anyone really know how many?? So let's say there were only 75 missing, okay? Are any of you naive enough to believe that some Muslim nation(namely Iran) out there hasn't already bought themselves a couple two or three from some corrupt Russian official??? Why do you think they were observing the North Korean missle launches, just recently??? They need a delivery system!!!!!

    So just where are all those missing warheads, huh???


    I am scared we won't be "missing" them for much longer.
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  • ND13
    ND13 Posts: 7,601
    edited July 2006
    Skynut wrote:
    I am scared we won't be "missing" them for much longer.

    Same here, broham, same here.:(

    That's why I'd just as soon strike first and ask questions later. **** France and the others that would pussify in the face of danger. Who the hell are they to tell us what to do anyways??

    A big beautiful mushroom cloud, right over Tehran!!!!:p ;)
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  • ohskigod
    ohskigod Posts: 6,502
    edited July 2006
    PolkThug wrote:
    We've heard about the few Israeli soldiers that were kidnapped. How many Lebanese have been "arrested"/"kidnapped" by the Israelis over the last couple years?

    In Lebanon? probably none.

    In Israel? probably lots. If the Israeli soldiers were doing a clandestine mission in lebanon and got captured, then I'd see the point. but Hezbollah crossed the border into Israel and kidnapped them. then there gonna cry about the raining of bombs?

    I was taught at a young age, F*ck with the bull, and you get the horns.
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  • ND13
    ND13 Posts: 7,601
    edited July 2006
    ohskigod wrote:
    F*ck with the bull, and you get the horns.

    Poke the tiger, one too many times, and you're eventually gonna draw back a bloody nub!!
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  • Skynut
    Skynut Posts: 2,967
    edited July 2006
    F*ck with the Eagle and you will get the beak, talons, and maybe even a mushroom cloud.
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  • Demiurge
    Demiurge Posts: 10,874
    edited July 2006
    unc2701 wrote:
    babycry.jpg

    Sorry, I thought I was having a discussion with an adult.
  • PolkThug
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  • BIZILL
    BIZILL Posts: 5,432
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    no cowbell. i hope this discussion goes on for quite a spell. well, at least until this crisis ends. how long will that be? i enjoy opinions and discussion with you fellow polkies.

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    bobman1235 wrote:
    I have no facts to back that up, but I never let facts get in the way of my arguments.
  • PolkThug
    PolkThug Posts: 7,532
    edited July 2006
    BIZILL wrote:
    no cowbell. i hope this discussion goes on for quite a spell. well, at least until this crisis ends. how long will that be? i enjoy opinions and discussion with you fellow polkies.

    Okay fine, I'll put it away for now and continue to respond.
  • BIZILL
    BIZILL Posts: 5,432
    edited July 2006
    PolkThug wrote:
    We've heard about the few Israeli soldiers that were kidnapped. How many Lebanese have been "arrested"/"kidnapped" by the Israelis over the last couple years?


    thug, are you a lebonese sympathiser? just a civil question.

    ...i just got the impression you think israel is in the wrong...

    hopefully this war doesn't go against the lebonese so much as for the hezbollah.

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    bobman1235 wrote:
    I have no facts to back that up, but I never let facts get in the way of my arguments.
  • BIZILL
    BIZILL Posts: 5,432
    edited July 2006
    they allowed the hezbollah to occupy and therefore...

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    bobman1235 wrote:
    I have no facts to back that up, but I never let facts get in the way of my arguments.
  • unc2701
    unc2701 Posts: 3,587
    edited July 2006
    Demiurge wrote:
    Sorry, I thought I was having a discussion with an adult.


    I guess the irony your own posting is completely lost on you.
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  • Demiurge
    Demiurge Posts: 10,874
    edited July 2006
    Is there a reason you couldn't have the discussion without turning it into swearing and name calling? That's why you're childish, and it's the first sign of someone who is frustrated because they're losing the argument.

    If you can't continue the discussion without being a dick then just put a sock in it. Everyone after your little childish rant had the same thing running through their mind that I posted....you blame America.
  • PolkThug
    PolkThug Posts: 7,532
    edited July 2006
    BIZILL wrote:
    thug, are you a lebonese sympathiser? just a civil question.

    ...i just got the impression you think israel is in the wrong...

    hopefully this war doesn't go against the lebonese so much as for the hezbollah.

    Its not so black and white. I don't know if Israel is "wrong", but I do wonder how righteous they really are. Most of the Lebanese killed so far have been civilians. (and of course Israeli civilians are getting killed over this too)

    Its hard to form an opinion from this far away. I like to ask questions.
  • Demiurge
    Demiurge Posts: 10,874
    edited July 2006
    PolkThug wrote:
    Its not so black and white. I don't know if Israel is "wrong", but I do wonder how righteous they really are. Most of the Lebanese killed so far have been civilians. (and of course Israeli civilians are getting killed over this too)

    Its hard to form an opinion from this far away. I like to ask questions.

    The rocket launchers are housed among civilians. What are they supposed to do?
  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,981
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    Politics or religon= name calling.....always happens.
    Why doesn't someone just blame Bush and call it a day?
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  • unc2701
    unc2701 Posts: 3,587
    edited July 2006
    Demiurge wrote:
    Is there a reason you couldn't have the discussion without turning it into swearing and name calling? That's why you're childish, and it's the first sign of someone who is frustrated because their losing the argument.

    If you can't continue the discussion without being a dick then just put a sock in it. Everyone after your little childish rant had the same thing running through their mind that I posted....you blame America.


    At the first hint of anyone challenging your thinking you accuse them of anti-americanism. If I called you a commie, I'd expect a big "**** you" coming back my way, and, by the way, you haven't responded to a single one of the points I've brought up. And posting posting a picture of a baby crying and then calling me childish? Real mature.
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  • BIZILL
    BIZILL Posts: 5,432
    edited July 2006
    PolkThug wrote:
    Its not so black and white. I don't know if Israel is "wrong", but I do wonder how righteous they really are. Most of the Lebanese killed so far have been civilians. (and of course Israeli civilians are getting killed over this too)

    Its hard to form an opinion from this far away. I like to ask questions.
    that's all i was doing for you. asking your opinion.

    on another note, i'll bet, just like our reporters, arab television still breathes foul air into their people by way of fictitious reporting on their losing battles in an attempt to infuriate the islamic world to rally against us. sick of that ****. they breed hate.

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    bobman1235 wrote:
    I have no facts to back that up, but I never let facts get in the way of my arguments.
  • BIZILL
    BIZILL Posts: 5,432
    edited July 2006
    unc2701 wrote:
    by the way, you haven't responded to a single one of the points I've brought up.
    :confused::confused: i'm too lazy to prove that wrong.

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    bobman1235 wrote:
    I have no facts to back that up, but I never let facts get in the way of my arguments.
  • Demiurge
    Demiurge Posts: 10,874
    edited July 2006
    You said:
    unc2701 wrote:
    Al qaeda formed because of our involvement in the middle east (and Saudi Arabia's willingness to allow it). It's roots prior to that are in the Afgan-Soviet wars. They hate america because, 1)they hate israel and we support them and 2)they hate any outsiders **** around in the middle east.

    My solution:
    1)Dump money into alternative energy research
    2)Israel is full of bad ****'s. Let them fend for themselves

    Not a solution:
    **** around in the middle east some more...

    I said:
    Demiurge wrote:
    I'm surprised it took so long for someone to explicitly blame America for the problems in the Middle East and the attacks on 9/11.

    Thanks for confirming my suspicions.

    You did blame America for the existence of Al-Qaeda. If America is to blame for Al-Qaeda existing, you're in turn justifying their actions as a result of our own involvement in their affairs. We brought this on ourselves, so to speak.

    You want us to sit here, do nothing, and believe there will be no more 9/11 re-enactments, right? Isn't that your view? If it's not, explain yourself rather than going off calling me every name in the book. Make me look like a dumbass with knowledge rather than name calling.

    If you want to continue the discussion at that end I would be glad to respond to your points. If not, I'm ignoring it from here on out.
  • PolkThug
    PolkThug Posts: 7,532
    edited July 2006
    Demiurge wrote:
    The rocket launchers are housed among civilians. What are they supposed to do?

    Well, then they should blow up all civilian housing to get rid of the rocket launchers, since that's where they all are. ;)