Lumber & Plywood pricing is ridiculous now.

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  • Gardenstater
    Gardenstater Posts: 4,502
    edited April 2022
    My 3 2 x 10 x 8ft I have had stored many years are now worth $75 and I'm using them now for a project, finally. I actually scavenged them for free but holy schmokes! Did Putin do this too? lol.

    My HD did not have any lack of stock that I could see, which would be expected if demand were so unprecedented as is being said.
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  • Tony M
    Tony M Posts: 11,159
    jdjohn wrote: »
    Here's an article about it: https://www.newsweek.com/why-are-lumber-prices-so-high-are-they-going-down-2022-1681105

    Lots of factors at play, including:
    - Construction boom (high demand)
    - Supply chain issues:
    • Labor shortage
    • Canadian trucker strike
    • Railcar shortage
    - Wildfires and weather in British Columbia, making harvesting and transportation difficult

    That was a very good read. ;)

    I then saw some opinions by people commenting on the article.
    I chuckled a few times. Back and forth comments are just like I see going on in this Country on the news. Some people trying to explain to those who don't want to listen, not even a little bit. At least they were clean in their exchanges. :p
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  • xschop
    xschop Posts: 5,000
    They're still building like crazy here. The Local PD put up a couple of the remote monitoring stations/ cameras in a couple large construction spots that already have 8Ft chain-link fencing due to rampant theft.

    Soon we'll see barbed-wire and sniper towers around the lumber yards.
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  • jdjohn
    jdjohn Posts: 3,160
    Sadly, these prices have prevented my wife and I from moving forward on building a new house on a couple of acres we purchased last year. Hopefully, prices will come back down in the near future, but probably not until retailers and suppliers have sold their current, more expensive, inventories.

    I plan to have a proper listening area in our new house B)
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  • Jazzhead
    Jazzhead Posts: 533
    We live in an older house that we are constantly rehabbing. Often I run my own molding because I can't find copies of the original profiles. Even clear softwood lumber lumber to do this with is ridiculous. Buy commercial molding and it is an arm and a leg as well. Doing it yourself doesn't save you anything. I feel a recession coming.
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  • xschop
    xschop Posts: 5,000
    edited April 2022
    Just came back from Sherman Williams for a single gallon of touch-up paint for our 10 year old home. Girl at counter said our contractor was still doing business with them and gave me a 50% discount. Gallon was still $28 after tax...

    Drove by construction site a mile away too...

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  • Tony M
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    edited April 2022
    audioluvr wrote: »
    I used to bring home trailers full of used lumber from construction jobs I was working on. Coworkers would call me the junk collector and ask what I was going to do with it. I told them I was going to build a barn with it. The leftovers I've been selling to a few people who build tiny homes.

    No ones making fun of me now.

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    :p<3

    Love it.

    Beautiful foresight and follow through.

    Amazing.

    Awesome too. I love the stairway.

    I bought 2 full boxes of spindles for almost nothing when I worked at a lumber yard many years ago. I still have them. :D

    I bought a lot of things for almost nothing and sometimes free too. I also brought home Oak hand rails too. But they're mainly for interior usage.

    It seems we both didn't hoard garbage like you see on the TV show. ;)
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  • boston1450
    boston1450 Posts: 7,653
    I could see me falling off that every Friday & Saturday for sure
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  • txcoastal1
    txcoastal1 Posts: 13,300
    boston1450 wrote: »
    I could see me falling off that every Friday & Saturday for sure

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  • boston1450
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    Tony M wrote: »
    audioluvr wrote: »
    I used to bring home trailers full of used lumber from construction jobs I was working on. Coworkers would call me the junk collector and ask what I was going to do with it. I told them I was going to build a barn with it. The leftovers I've been selling to a few people who build tiny homes.

    No ones making fun of me now.

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    :p<3

    Love it.

    Beautiful foresight and follow through.

    Amazing.

    Awesome too. I love the stairway.

    I bought 2 full boxes of spindles for almost nothing when I worked at a lumber yard many years ago. I still have them. :D

    I bought a lot of things for almost nothing and sometimes free too. I also brought home Oak hand rails too. But they're mainly for interior usage.

    It seems we both didn't hoard garbage like you see on the TV show. ;)
    All those pictures you posted of all that lumber you hoarded is money in the bank. BTW excellent job on all your work

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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,895
    Yankee style. B)

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    Sawmills are sorta like swimming pools -- or boats. It's nice to have one, but it's really nice to have a friend who has one. :#

    As it happens, our neighbors are currently in the midst of a project -- building (finishing) a house for their son & soon-to-be daughter-in-law.

    Thus a busy fall of millin'.

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    PS I wasn't goin' all Rear Window on my neighbors today --
    I had the camera out on our daily perambulation for a reason. Stay tuned...

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  • Tony M
    Tony M Posts: 11,159
    What a nice stockpile of lumber. :p

    I don't see any plywood though. :#

    Unfortunately, we can't make our own. :'(
    The BIG mills have us by the short hairs in the plywood dept. >:)
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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,895
    Ya got enough boards -- who needs plywood?
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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,895
    boston1450 wrote: »
    I could see me falling off that every Friday & Saturday for sure

    That right there is signature line material, that is.
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  • Tony M
    Tony M Posts: 11,159
    mhardy6647 wrote: »
    Ya got enough boards -- who needs plywood?
    :#

    Come to think about it...

    My house was built in 1952 with just boards. Yellow pine ones at that.
    There was Oak T&G for flooring throughout. I don't think plywood had been invented yet. :|
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  • invalid
    invalid Posts: 1,372
    A house is definitely stronger with 1× lumber instead of plywood or oriented strand board for roof and wall decking.
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  • Tony M
    Tony M Posts: 11,159
    When I remodeled this house in a major way 30 years ago, the wall corners were plumb straight everywhere. The corners had 45* bracing locked into the studs by half cutting the brace and studs where they meet.

    I was VERY lucky picking this house back then. I've learned some other houses were built cheaply by another builder who built quite a few of the houses on my street.

    Here's a thing for plywood cheapskates that I couldn't believe what I was seeing 38 years or more ago across town.
    The builder was using that black 1/2" fiberboard for sheathing around the houses. They were on slabs too. BUT...they were putting vinyl siding over the fiberboard. :o
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  • BlueBirdMusic
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    Saw this tweet this morning:

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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,895
    BlueBirdMusic wrote: »
    Saw this tweet this morning:

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    well -- I guess we'll find out if the increase is linear or exponential. :o
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,133
    Must be Putin's price increase.... :*

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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,895
    treitz3 wrote: »
    Must be Putin's price increase.... :*

    Tom

    Is he buildin' a deck, too?!

    B)
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  • BlueBirdMusic
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    A wooden deck on a new ship.
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  • Milito
    Milito Posts: 1,960
    Yea I heard he needs a new ship, seems he lost a big one recently.
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    Here's a thing for plywood cheapskates that I couldn't believe what I was seeing 38 years or more ago across town.
    The builder was using that black 1/2" fiberboard for sheathing around the houses. They were on slabs too. BUT...they were putting vinyl siding over the fiberboard. :o [/quote]

    That was quite common at that time, then a little while after that they used blue dow foam sheathing with diagonal steel bracing on the inside of the walls. I could feel the structure swaying a little on a windy day when I was working on the roof. Builders stopped using that because of complaints of drywall cracks in the homes they used it in.
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  • Tony M
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    You just reminded me of the metal diaginal bracing strips behind the black board.

    I have a 50' strip of it I found somewhere. Been saving it for MANY years. :D

    I thought about how easy it would be to break into one of those homes. A razor knife and a sheet rock saw would be all someone would need. :#

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  • michaeljhsda2
    michaeljhsda2 Posts: 2,185
    Back in 2001 the minimum requirement was that each corner of the house had to have 8 ft of plywood but the remaining exterior wall could be foam board.
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  • michaeljhsda2
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    Tony M wrote: »
    You just reminded me of the metal diaginal bracing strips behind the black board.

    I have a 50' strip of it I found somewhere. Been saving it for MANY years. :D

    I thought about how easy it would be to break into one of those homes. A razor knife and a sheet rock saw would be all someone would need. :#

    I thought the same thing, would be so easy to break in. And these are on $300,000 homes at the time.
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  • invalid
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    When I used to vinyl side houses with that blue foam one side of the inside corner post would just have nails poked into the foam because there was never a stud behind the foam in that location.
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  • michaeljhsda2
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    invalid wrote: »
    When I used to vinyl side houses with that blue foam one side of the inside corner post would just have nails poked into the foam because there was never a stud behind the foam in that location.

    Crazy. The builder's were able to save money and of course they did not pass it on to the buyers.
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