New preamp arrived!

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  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,572
    SCompRacer wrote: »
    Congrats on a stellar pre amp Joey. The new production 6h30 tubes are actually very good. If you go the 6H30 DR's, make sure they are the real deal before plunking down that much cash. I retubed from Upscale.

    How to spot the real deal.

    http://webboard.createhouse.net/index.php?topic=220.0

    What’s the 6h30dr? Is that a nos tube type?
    Magico M2, JL113v2x2, EMM, ARC Ref 10 Line, ARC Ref 10 Phono, VPIx2, Lyra Etna, Airtight Opus1, Boulder, AQ Wel&Wild, SRA Scuttle Rack, BlueSound+LPS, Thorens 124DD+124SPU, Sennheiser, Metaxas R2R
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  • marvda1
    marvda1 Posts: 4,903
    edited July 2020
    Joey_V wrote: »
    SCompRacer wrote: »
    Congrats on a stellar pre amp Joey. The new production 6h30 tubes are actually very good. If you go the 6H30 DR's, make sure they are the real deal before plunking down that much cash. I retubed from Upscale.

    How to spot the real deal.

    http://webboard.createhouse.net/index.php?topic=220.0

    What’s the 6h30dr? Is that a nos tube type?

    @ joey_v here you go my friend.
    https://www.thetubestore.com/russian-6h30p-dr

    theses are 6dj8 replacements.
    EH makes a 6h30pi and sovtek makes on for a lot less.
    i use the sovtek in my tube dac and it sounds great.
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  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,572
    marvda1 wrote: »
    Joey_V wrote: »
    SCompRacer wrote: »
    Congrats on a stellar pre amp Joey. The new production 6h30 tubes are actually very good. If you go the 6H30 DR's, make sure they are the real deal before plunking down that much cash. I retubed from Upscale.

    How to spot the real deal.

    http://webboard.createhouse.net/index.php?topic=220.0

    What’s the 6h30dr? Is that a nos tube type?

    @ joey_v here you go my friend.
    https://www.thetubestore.com/russian-6h30p-dr

    theses are 6dj8 replacements.
    EH makes a 6h30pi and sovtek makes on for a lot less.
    i use the sovtek in my tube dac and it sounds great.

    Wait... Marvin... is that $299 each??
    Magico M2, JL113v2x2, EMM, ARC Ref 10 Line, ARC Ref 10 Phono, VPIx2, Lyra Etna, Airtight Opus1, Boulder, AQ Wel&Wild, SRA Scuttle Rack, BlueSound+LPS, Thorens 124DD+124SPU, Sennheiser, Metaxas R2R
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  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,572
    I just checked... I have ten of them in this package....

    Dear Diary,
    Jackpot!
    Sincerely,
    JV
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  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,572
    Initial thoughts:

    It’s definitely a solid performer.
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  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 25,583
    Joey_V wrote: »
    SCompRacer wrote: »
    Congrats on a stellar pre amp Joey. The new production 6h30 tubes are actually very good. If you go the 6H30 DR's, make sure they are the real deal before plunking down that much cash. I retubed from Upscale.

    How to spot the real deal.

    http://webboard.createhouse.net/index.php?topic=220.0

    What’s the 6h30dr? Is that a nos tube type?

    Dear god my man, do you not research anything, or does it just have to be expensive ??

    I'm one that looks into some piece of gear so deep they're usually on version 2 by the time I've made my mind up. If it has tubes I research the snot out of them to see what substitutions I may or may not be able to use and how hard are NOS tubes to find for it?

    That's a very nice pre, some it would be end game.
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  • xsmi
    xsmi Posts: 1,798
    I watched a video of a little old lady soldering boards at the ARC! I've always loved their pieces.
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  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,572
    edited July 2020
    pitdogg2 wrote: »
    Joey_V wrote: »
    SCompRacer wrote: »
    Congrats on a stellar pre amp Joey. The new production 6h30 tubes are actually very good. If you go the 6H30 DR's, make sure they are the real deal before plunking down that much cash. I retubed from Upscale.

    How to spot the real deal.

    http://webboard.createhouse.net/index.php?topic=220.0

    What’s the 6h30dr? Is that a nos tube type?

    Dear god my man, do you not research anything, or does it just have to be expensive ??

    I'm one that looks into some piece of gear so deep they're usually on version 2 by the time I've made my mind up. If it has tubes I research the snot out of them to see what substitutions I may or may not be able to use and how hard are NOS tubes to find for it?

    That's a very nice pre, some it would be end game.

    Haha

    No time man. I read reviews and ask others for their opinion. At some point, doing all the research for the minutiaes isn’t worth my time or attention span.

    Read about the Ref 40 for a long time, but never got into what tubes they use since most people stick with stock tubes on ARCs as they are matched etc.

    I somehow landed a set where the owner rolled some Russian tubes and I asked for it as part of the deal.

    Figured that I resigned that this would be my end tube preamp regardless of the ability to roll nos tubes.

    There’s a saying in my profession, if it doesn’t change management, then no need to do it.

    I was going to get the ARC 40 regardless of tube rollability. So it didn’t make a difference to do any more research into the tube type and choices.
    Magico M2, JL113v2x2, EMM, ARC Ref 10 Line, ARC Ref 10 Phono, VPIx2, Lyra Etna, Airtight Opus1, Boulder, AQ Wel&Wild, SRA Scuttle Rack, BlueSound+LPS, Thorens 124DD+124SPU, Sennheiser, Metaxas R2R
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  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    At some point you should get out of the 19th century technology, and move into the 21st century. Pass is a good starting point. :)

    Enjoy.
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  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,572
    BlueFox wrote: »
    At some point you should get out of the 19th century technology, and move into the 21st century. Pass is a good starting point. :)

    Enjoy.

    Haha

    Yeah next time
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  • audioluvr
    audioluvr Posts: 5,603
    Hey Joey when you get sick of that thing let me know. I'll swap pre's with you so you can hear what "Simply Perfect" sounds like. :p
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  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,572
    audioluvr wrote: »
    Hey Joey when you get sick of that thing let me know. I'll swap pre's with you so you can hear what "Simply Perfect" sounds like. :p

    Deal!
    Magico M2, JL113v2x2, EMM, ARC Ref 10 Line, ARC Ref 10 Phono, VPIx2, Lyra Etna, Airtight Opus1, Boulder, AQ Wel&Wild, SRA Scuttle Rack, BlueSound+LPS, Thorens 124DD+124SPU, Sennheiser, Metaxas R2R
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  • Clipdat
    Clipdat Posts: 12,953
    Joey_V wrote: »
    Clipdat wrote: »
    Some preamp designs subscribe to the "less is more" approach.

    It appears that Audio Research subscribes to the "more is more" approach! :)

    I was looking at the circuit board, it’s actually not complex... very symmetric and truly balanced.

    I really like how thick the traces are on the PCBs. Definitely a piece of audio art.
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  • SIHAB
    SIHAB Posts: 4,971
    pitdogg2 wrote: »
    Joey_V wrote: »
    SCompRacer wrote: »
    Congrats on a stellar pre amp Joey. The new production 6h30 tubes are actually very good. If you go the 6H30 DR's, make sure they are the real deal before plunking down that much cash. I retubed from Upscale.

    How to spot the real deal.

    http://webboard.createhouse.net/index.php?topic=220.0

    What’s the 6h30dr? Is that a nos tube type?

    Dear god my man, do you not research anything, or does it just have to be expensive ??

    I'm one that looks into some piece of gear so deep they're usually on version 2 by the time I've made my mind up. If it has tubes I research the snot out of them to see what substitutions I may or may not be able to use and how hard are NOS tubes to find for it?

    That's a very nice pre, some it would be end game.

    Seek not to know all of the answers, but to understand the questions.
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  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,572
    Good quote @SIHAB
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  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,572
    Listened to it last night, had it warm up for a couple hours.

    Man it sounded good. Very dense imaging. It seems to want to be turned up. But I'm more interested in low level listening. More trials ahead.
    Magico M2, JL113v2x2, EMM, ARC Ref 10 Line, ARC Ref 10 Phono, VPIx2, Lyra Etna, Airtight Opus1, Boulder, AQ Wel&Wild, SRA Scuttle Rack, BlueSound+LPS, Thorens 124DD+124SPU, Sennheiser, Metaxas R2R
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  • WLDock
    WLDock Posts: 3,073
    Joey_V wrote: »
    Wait... Marvin... is that $299 each??
    I just checked... I have ten of them in this package....

    H E A V Y _ H I T T E R _ A U D I O P H I L E !

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  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,572
    edited August 2020
    WLDock wrote: »
    Joey_V wrote: »
    Wait... Marvin... is that $299 each??
    I just checked... I have ten of them in this package....

    H E A V Y _ H I T T E R _ A U D I O P H I L E !

    Haha

    I like to refer to myself as a value minded audiophile
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  • vmaxer
    vmaxer Posts: 5,117
    Good to see you back on here.

    How is the Covid battle going?

    How are your kids doing??
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  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,572
    edited August 2020
    vmaxer wrote: »
    Good to see you back on here.

    How is the Covid battle going?

    How are your kids doing??

    Hey buddy,

    I think the numbers are down since mask mandate in Texas. I’m getting better and better at PPE combos for myself.

    Kids and I wear a mask when we are in public places but I am not as restrictive as before. We have gone to 3 hotels for mini vacations this summer.

    We just mask up and use hand sanitizers.

    Kids are 6, 3, 2.

    All enjoy Dad’s upgraded stereo. They have requests every night. The boy requested Harry Styles Watermelon Sugar “Pie” (he cant say “high”) yesterday.

    Kids love the focal and Sonus Fabers too.

    When I go to Best Buy to audition sound bars for the master bedroom, the girl was asking... why are you listening to that weird speaker?
    Magico M2, JL113v2x2, EMM, ARC Ref 10 Line, ARC Ref 10 Phono, VPIx2, Lyra Etna, Airtight Opus1, Boulder, AQ Wel&Wild, SRA Scuttle Rack, BlueSound+LPS, Thorens 124DD+124SPU, Sennheiser, Metaxas R2R
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  • halo
    halo Posts: 5,616
    Congrats on the new preamp Joey! Enjoy!
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  • Clipdat
    Clipdat Posts: 12,953
    Joey_V wrote: »
    Listened to it last night, had it warm up for a couple hours.

    Man it sounded good. Very dense imaging. It seems to want to be turned up. But I'm more interested in low level listening. More trials ahead.

    Benchmark LA4 is a great preamp choice for low level listening, due to the way that they implemented the volume control.

    Worth a shot if the Audio Research doesn't work out! :)
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  • Mike Reeter
    Mike Reeter Posts: 4,315
    Congrats on the new Pre Joey, still have the Cary 05?
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  • indyhawg
    indyhawg Posts: 1,645
    Very nice preamp.
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  • BlueBirdMusic
    BlueBirdMusic Posts: 2,319
    Glad to hear all of the good news, and see you back on the forum , Joey!
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  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,538
    VERY COOL Joey! Enjoy!
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  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,572
    Clipdat wrote: »
    Joey_V wrote: »
    Listened to it last night, had it warm up for a couple hours.

    Man it sounded good. Very dense imaging. It seems to want to be turned up. But I'm more interested in low level listening. More trials ahead.

    Benchmark LA4 is a great preamp choice for low level listening, due to the way that they implemented the volume control.

    Worth a shot if the Audio Research doesn't work out! :)

    Haha

    I tested the low level listening last night.

    It was superb
    Magico M2, JL113v2x2, EMM, ARC Ref 10 Line, ARC Ref 10 Phono, VPIx2, Lyra Etna, Airtight Opus1, Boulder, AQ Wel&Wild, SRA Scuttle Rack, BlueSound+LPS, Thorens 124DD+124SPU, Sennheiser, Metaxas R2R
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  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,572
    edited August 2020
    Mike Reeter wrote: »
    Congrats on the new Pre Joey, still have the Cary 05?

    No longer buddy

    This one is significantly better in every measure of a preamp

    Also corrected the errors of the ARC 5se as well
    Magico M2, JL113v2x2, EMM, ARC Ref 10 Line, ARC Ref 10 Phono, VPIx2, Lyra Etna, Airtight Opus1, Boulder, AQ Wel&Wild, SRA Scuttle Rack, BlueSound+LPS, Thorens 124DD+124SPU, Sennheiser, Metaxas R2R
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  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,572
    steveinaz wrote: »
    VERY COOL Joey! Enjoy!

    Thx Steve!
    BlueBirdMusic wrote: »
    Glad to hear all of the good news, and see you back on the forum , Joey!

    I’m just glad to be alive
    indyhawg wrote: »
    Very nice preamp.

    Thx Indy!
    Magico M2, JL113v2x2, EMM, ARC Ref 10 Line, ARC Ref 10 Phono, VPIx2, Lyra Etna, Airtight Opus1, Boulder, AQ Wel&Wild, SRA Scuttle Rack, BlueSound+LPS, Thorens 124DD+124SPU, Sennheiser, Metaxas R2R
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  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,572
    Stayed up till 4am, gonna go back and take a nap cuz I’m kinda tired on my day off...

    ... but yes, the report is that this preamp is superb. Hi level and low level listening is just about what I’d expect a preamp if this caliber to be. It is different from the ARC 5se in that it is more complete, meaning I don’t hear that strident treble and that “forced” nature of the sound. Some people may call it immediate, I call it fake turbos. Rather have a naturally aspirated 700hp v12 Lamborghini motor loafing along.

    Against the Cary 05, the Cary 05 I felt was overall brighter and while the Cary was really good at certain aspect of the stage (moreso than the Cary SLP98), such as bringing the singer out infront and center, the Cary was not as dense of an image as the Ref40.

    I always felt like the middle of the mouth of the singer on the Cary 05 was taller than it should be, hence looking up when listening from a seated position... for me.

    Also, even though the Cary 05 was able to highlight the singer, it was as if there was a tail of audio imagery behind them.

    The 40, it was eerie because you could literally see nothing behind the singers image. The singer appears independent from the rest of the music.

    If that makes sense...

    Anyway, this was on stock cords. The Cary had the audioquest wels
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