Scary virus outbreak in China
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Gardenstater wrote: »There are many corona virus' in the world, so calling this one the corona virus is wrong and misleading. It was from the beginning and should still be referred to as the Wuhan virus as it is the tradition to name a virus due to its point of origin.
Yeah and there is even plenty of evidence that this one was genetically engineered, but I doubt the mainstream media is talking about that, or at least not the liberal *news* outlets.
It's not engineered. It matches SARS and MERS as much as 97%. Both of those were species jumping mutations of a naturally occurring pathogen. It's less communicable than SARS or MERS and it's transmission vectors are sporadic and unreliable. Just because you were "exposed" doesn't mean you will get it. It just means someone "within range" of you has it and was near you while they were infectious.
As a weapon, this is pretty poor.
However, there is speculation based on mounting evidence that China knew about this and was having a problem prior to November. At the transmission and infection rate currently being seen, the numbers in China are far too high, even if current numbers are purposefully under-reported, for only 2-3 months of an epidemic with these rates. Health organizations are now saying that China had the outbreak start as far back as September and it reached Wuhan some time in October and exploded due to population density.Expert Moron Extraordinaire
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Gardenstater wrote: »motorhead43026 wrote: »Gardenstater wrote: »There are many corona virus' in the world, so calling this one the corona virus is wrong and misleading. It was from the beginning and should still be referred to as the Wuhan virus as it is the tradition to name a virus due to its point of origin.
Yeah and there is even plenty of evidence that this one was genetically engineered, but I doubt the mainstream media is talking about that, or at least not the liberal *news* outlets.
Other than conspiracy theories what do you have to back up your comment? Seems this would be really easy to prove.
Yet not once has any credible voice come forward and stated this is an engineered virus or even suggested such.
I've been reading lots of stuff. I'll have to try to find what I read, but it was comments by a medical researcher IIRC. I remember the info. referred to it as a *chimera*, as in having genetics from multiple viruses.
But dude, easy to prove? I think not.
I think I read the same thing. I believe the researchers name was Alex Jones.Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel…….Samuel Johnson
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LOL no I haven't read anything from Alex Jones, but I know he would definitely be onboard with it, without any evidence needed.George / NJ
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Go back to page 4. Chinese vaccine research could have carried it into public. IIRC Canada also stated two Chinese nationals had went back to China with samples from their lab they were working on for sars/mers vaccine. Those Chinese nationals flew to Wuhan region. Not too long after the virus supposedly had shown up at the outdoor food market.
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Misdirection, a common theme for those that propagate such themes as Xenophobia as it relates to calling a disease from it's point of origin.
Calling it that way is not being political, that's the norm as we discussed.
But one thing I know, three weeks ago, none of the people who are now offended by "Wuhan Virus" or "Chinese Coronavirus" cared one bit about what it was called. EVERY news outlet was calling it those names. But when China pushed back on American news media about insensitivity and identity politics, the usual's jumped at the chance to add this to the narrative. Now it's priority one, not saving lives together or working as a whole to keep citizens safe, but making sure all people are sensitive to calling it Ex nihilo.
The one country who makes nearly 97% of all medicine this country consumes (in one way or another) made this virus. Not the US. Now because they know how fragile our social society is, they will capitalize on misinformation and use it to take the heat off them. And like good sheep, most ill informed Americans will follow.
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Nobody sees China making 97% of our medicine problematic ? That should be more of a concern than this virus. If that's true...HT SYSTEM-
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It should be, but unfortunately it's laughable to some...
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Nobody sees China making 97% of our medicine problematic ? That should be more of a concern than this virus. If that's true...
"Somebody" saw an issue with that and made an executive order to alleviate it yesterday, Tony.
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That article says that China makes 97% of our antibiotics, not 97% of our medicine.
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That is true, but read further in and you will see that the basic ingredients for most all of our medicine is made there with "finishing" done here.
So if you get "assembled in USA" from Chinese components, then all is ok right?
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I can see the possibility that the virus was taken from Canada, nefariously or knowingly, and was accidentally released into the wild. But that doesn't necessarily mean there was ill intent there. China covering it up, yeah, not necessarily ill intent just shirking responsibility.
But China looking to make a universal SARS vaccine would give them a global cash cow. SARS isn't a single virus. It's a class of viruses that cause Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome. The original SARS virus from 2002 is one as well as MERS and COVID-19. They all have similar genetic structure and action mechanisms so if someone finds a way to make the virus inert/ineffective for how they all act, they are going to make a fortune on that vaccine.
I think that testing numbers at this point are a waste of time. I think it's been out there for a long time and many people, including those in the "death zone" have already had it. So to piss and moan about how we aren't testing anyone and our government isn't handling this right is just impotent rage and pearl clutching. Every government got thrust into this by China's hubris and subsequent actions, or lack thereof, to contain this.Expert Moron Extraordinaire
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Hey....the virus is not Bear Grylls from Canada.... unless it originated from Maple syrup.
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China stands to lose a bunch of money with a trade deal from Trump, and they are hoping a democrat is elected in 2020. What's Trumps most re-electable trait? The economy. What do pandemics do to the economy?
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So, today our CEO sent a e-mail out to every employee that beginning Monday, all employees are asked to work from home. Not a huge impact for me, as I can do a lot of my work remotely anyways.
Except when working with Studio, as there are physical mock-ups there.
Again, not panicked, but remaining calm and vigilant. And, in my pajamas!
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Wait you mean you lounge pants... Rumours have it that you sleep in a teddy....
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Dr Francis Boyle himself called this a bioweapon with gain of functions introduced via gene editing technique pShuttle-SN found in its genomic sequence by an Indian lab.
I don't believe the author of the US Bioweapons Act would make this statement lightly.Don't take experimental gene therapies from known eugenicists. -
Making political hay out of any crisis is pretty much the standard in American politics. In an election year, it's a gimme. The sun coming up could be a political thing.
Anyway, most just sift through that manure to deal with the real issues at hand. Take precautions, but don't be stupid either. Don't be hanging out , if your older, in bars with loud music. The person talking to you usually has to get close to your face to talk, and spit on ya.
Very true Tony, but I recall after 9/11, members of Congress on both sides of the aisle sang God Bless America on the Capitol steps. That was truly a unifying moment for our Country.
I find the political discourse of blaming and complaining about the Administration's effort disgusting. The government's response toward this issue, right or wrong, effective or ineffective, you decide, but we all should be working together. People that wasting energy not helping the issue, should be helping and working together.Basement: Polk SDA SRS 1.2tl's, Cary SLP-05 Pre with ultimate upgrade,McIntosh MCD301 CD/SACD player, Northstar Designs Excelsio DAC, Cambridge 851N streamer, McIntosh MC300 Amp, Silnote Morpheus Ref2, Series2 Digital Cables, Silnote Morpheus Ref2 Series2 XLR's, Furman 15PFi Power Conditioner, Pangea Power Cables, MIT Shotgun S3 IC's, MIT Shotgun S1 Bi-Wire speaker cables
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Wait you mean you lounge pants... Rumours have it that you sleep in a teddy....
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No school til April 13th. Have to come in for an IEP meeting on the 2nd tho. Oh what shall I do!?
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I Montgomery County Pa which is where I work, schools have been closed and all retail businesses have been asked to close down. Only Gas and Food are open. Anyone who can work from home has been asked to do so. We may get quarantined.Dan
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I Montgomery County Pa which is where I work, schools have been closed and all retail businesses have been asked to close down. Only Gas and Food are open. Anyone who can work from home has been asked to do so. We may get quarantined.
Retail has been asked to close down ? Are they going to adjust the taxes they have to pay ? Rent ? Bet not.
How will those employees live and pay their own rents/mortgages, food, living expenses ? If they move on to other jobs, those retailers once this is over will be in deep do-do.HT SYSTEM-
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Yeah, maybe Bernie will throw some socialist funding their way.Don't take experimental gene therapies from known eugenicists.
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The President will have a press conference today at 3pm EST. Stay tuned!
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Yeah, maybe Bernie will throw some socialist funding their way.
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As the Cali-ites said when Hillary had the pre-rig against Bernie last go-round....Burn one for Bernie.Don't take experimental gene therapies from known eugenicists.
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Yeah, maybe Bernie will throw some socialist funding their way.
Psst , ask the farmers how they like their socialist subsidies since the trade war began. And for your information, Bernie isn't president and never will be. You do know who the the president is correct?Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel…….Samuel Johnson
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