Scary virus outbreak in China

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  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,563
    tonyb wrote: »
    I gotta call b.s. on the supposed under staffing.
    ITALY ON A NORMAL DAY....is understaffed. Welcome to Gov. Run H.C.

    Joey, your hospital has only 7 ICU beds ? That's just crazy. Even hospitals out in the suburbs here have 20 or 30. Some more than that.

    During flu season, hospitals are short on beds to begin with. Throw in an unexpected contagious virus and you have an instant crisis.

    Those are the bigger hospitals.
    Like Central Dupage or Delnor at your place.
    NIMC likely does not.
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  • F1nut
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    tonyb wrote: »
    With the shortage of equipment Italy is facing, and doctors , one has to wonder...
    Isn't this what the U.N. is for ?

    Can we relocate doctors from other organizations like Red cross or Doctors without borders, etc.

    And, this is not something new for Italy that 1500 docs leave the country every year. You think the best and brightest want to work for peanuts ?

    But the WHO says they have the 2nd best health care.
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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,294
    edited March 2020
    I’m not so concerned about if I picked it up, I feel I’m pretty healthy, and would come out of it, my biggest concern is obviously Courtney... She has a doctor appointment today, and I don’t even want her to go. She had her biopsy last week, and they want to go over her tests..
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  • motorhead43026
    motorhead43026 Posts: 3,900
    edited March 2020
    Azar the HHS Secretary said to expect this virus to be a thing for up to a year.
    The best way to predict the future is to invent it.

    It is imperative that we recognize that an opinion is not a fact.
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  • westmassguy
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    codycatalist wrote: »
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3URhJx0NSw

    Watched it last night, very sobering.
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  • treitz3
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    Just sayin'...

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  • Viking64
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    la2vegas wrote: »

    It couldn't touch its face either, just sayin'...

    You forgot to write your name.
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  • Viking64
    Viking64 Posts: 7,106
    la2vegas wrote: »
    Viking64 wrote: »
    la2vegas wrote: »

    It couldn't touch its face either, just sayin'...

    You forgot to write your name.

    I see you have returned...

    I have been here all along!
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  • Gardenstater
    Gardenstater Posts: 4,500
    Don't panic till I give the word.

    Exponential Growth and Epidemics:

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  • treitz3
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  • Jstas
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    Gardenstater wrote: »
    Don't panic till I give the word.

    Exponential Growth and Epidemics:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kas0tIxDvrg&feature=youtu.be

    Quit using science, facts and reason!

    This thread is for speculative panic in the stock market over ignorant fear, uncertainty and doubt.
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  • Kex
    Kex Posts: 5,200
    The number of cases outside China have now doubled since last Friday, to more than 40,000.

    Angela Merkel addressed the Bundestag today, and repeated during a press conference later, than the number of people infected in Germany could rise to 60 or 70% of the population. That’s approximately 55 to 60 million.

    Angela Merkel - COVID-19
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  • BlueFox
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    Stock market going down today. LOL. They can’t make up their minds. Just sell it all. Whoever is the next President will have quite a mess (economically and socially) to deal with.
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  • Kex
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    tonyb wrote: »
    ...Can we relocate doctors from other organizations like Red cross or Doctors without borders, etc. ...
    Those are private humanitarian organisations.
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  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,538
    Aren't we being just a little drama-queen'ish? Anyone remember HIV-AIDS? Did we clear store shelves for that ACTUAL killer virus? Get a grip.
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  • Kex
    Kex Posts: 5,200
    edited March 2020
    Goldman Sachs Expects S&P 500 to drop to 2,450 by mid-year.

    That would signal the end of the bull market. Goldman also expects a recovery to 3,200 by the end of 2020.
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,981
    Kex wrote: »
    tonyb wrote: »
    ...Can we relocate doctors from other organizations like Red cross or Doctors without borders, etc. ...
    Those are private humanitarian organisations.
    Kex wrote: »
    tonyb wrote: »
    ...Can we relocate doctors from other organizations like Red cross or Doctors without borders, etc. ...
    Those are private humanitarian organisations.

    Yes...and does it hurt to ask ? Especially for those areas hardest hit like Italy.
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  • Kex
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    Certainly doesn’t hurt to ask, but...
    • Italy’s budget for COVID-19 is currently 28 billion USD.
    • MSF (Doctors Without Borders) has an annual budget estimated at $1.6B
    • ICRC (Red Cross) has an annual budget of about $2B
    Pulling volunteer doctors, leaving poor people to die in third world countries, to help people in the eighth wealthiest country in the world is hardly going to look good.
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  • tonyb
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    Italy is by far, not one of the wealthiest countries in the world. I'm saying....ask for their help and PAY them so as not to stretch their budgets. Maybe even make it profitable for them to lend a hand.

    Part of dealing with these things is how fast you can nip it. You have to use every resource out there, or at least try to. Problem solving 101, thinking outside the box.
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  • Kex
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    Italy has the 8th highest GDP in the world. Nominal GDP exceeds that of either Texas or New York. Only California is wealthier, as a state, than Italy.
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  • Clipdat
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    Can the virus be cured by throwing money at it?
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  • Kex
    Kex Posts: 5,200
    No, but the point is: Italy does not need help from humanitarian organizations.
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  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    Clipdat wrote: »
    Can the virus be cured by throwing money at it?

    Maybe. Science will cure/prevent/stop it, and science takes money.
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  • Kex
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    BlueFox wrote: »
    Maybe. Science will cure/prevent/stop it, and science takes money.
    So does equipment, like respirators, which seem to be in short supply in hard hit areas.
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  • Kex
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    The W.H.O. has just declared Covid-19 a pandemic.

    Makes sense, considering what Angela Merkel just said.
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  • Viking64
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    Kex wrote: »
    The W.H.O. has just declared Covid-19 a pandemic.
    ???

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  • motorhead43026
    motorhead43026 Posts: 3,900
    Since China advised all countries in January of the COVID-19 virus DNA, the US has tested 5000 people. The South Koreans are doing 10,000 a day..

    Now in the US millions of test kits have said to been shipped yesterday and more today.
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  • Kex
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    Those guys are The Who (not the W.H.O.) and two of them are sadly deceased. 😞

    I don’t think it was them that made the statement. 😉
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  • Viking64
    Viking64 Posts: 7,106
    Kex wrote: »
    Those guys are The Who (not the W.H.O.) and two of them are sadly deceased. 😞

    I don’t think it was them that made the statement. 😉

    Sorry. I promise I won't get fool....nevermind.
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  • Jstas
    Jstas Posts: 14,838
    China is reporting that things are stablilizing.

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/11/asia/coronavirus-covid-19-update-intl-hnk/index.html
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