Scary virus outbreak in China

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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,897

    Well, if the fate of the markets is linked to the virus, doesn't it make sense that the virus isn't going to be around forever and thus neither will a bear market ?

    Btw, if money is your concern, you can make it no matter which way the market moves. If your scared about the violentile movements,get out and sit on the sidelines until it calms down. Not rocket science..

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  • motorhead43026
    motorhead43026 Posts: 3,892
    edited March 2020
    Oh, the virus will be around forever thus the reason for a vaccine, it's not a cure.



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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,897
    So will all the other viruses, and I'm sure a few more new ones....and the greed I mean markets continue to flourish.
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  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    Yes. At some point we will get used to it, and not think about it much. Of course before that happens most people susceptible to it will have had it, and many will die.
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  • motorhead43026
    motorhead43026 Posts: 3,892
    edited March 2020
    @tonyb, sure but we need a good recession on occasion as well. Flush out all the weak hands.
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  • xschop
    xschop Posts: 4,493
    Does anyone else sense an atmosphere of "don't test don't tell"?
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,897
    xschop wrote: »
    Does anyone else sense an atmosphere of "don't test don't tell"?

    Absolutely, everywhere.
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  • Gardenstater
    Gardenstater Posts: 4,097
    Even when that nursing home in Washington was suffering its own mini-pandemic, they weren't allowed according to the CDC guidelines, to test everyone that lived and worked in the place. How freakin' stupid is that????
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  • ptrooper
    ptrooper Posts: 501
    We have people here down under waiting for results and in the meantime going to large group gatherings of all sorts to later finding out they have it!.I'd like to slap them.. I wonder if in the very near future if they will be made liable?
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 49,595
    I've never needed a test to tell me I have the flu, a cold or basically feel like death warmed over.
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  • ptrooper
    ptrooper Posts: 501
    yes, the man flu,Most women would die :p
  • Gardenstater
    Gardenstater Posts: 4,097
    The thing is that people can be non symptomatic and still be contagious with coronavirus! So testing everyone in that nursing home should've been a no-brainer!!
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 49,595
    The thing is that people can be non symptomatic and still be contagious with coronavirus! So testing everyone in that nursing home should've been a no-brainer!!

    So, no different than someone carrying a flu virus that hasn't gone full blown yet.
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  • Gardenstater
    Gardenstater Posts: 4,097
    The difference is that coronavirus goes right into viral pneumonia and puts many more people on respirators and into the ICU, than the ordinary flu ever did. When I said non-symptomatic I didn't mean symptoms that hadn't gone full blown, I meant literally no symptoms or no clue of any sickness to come. And then those health workers that were uknowingly carriers went home and out into the world and no doubt infected others. That's why the CDC not having enough tests and putting stupid restrictions into effect upon who can be tested in typical CYA fashion was the nations undoing. I'm just using the nursing home as a micro example.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 49,595
    Mhmm.....fyi, it doesn't go right into viral pneumonia
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  • verb
    verb Posts: 10,176
    So this morning 2 cases of folks testing positive in Michigan. One in my county, the other in an adjacent county. Both recently traveled via air, one internationally.

    My behavior has not changed, other than being more aware. I continue to remain calm. I will continue to monitor, and be vigilant.
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 18,124
    We have 2 cases within 100 miles of us. Same here, Dave.

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  • Gardenstater
    Gardenstater Posts: 4,097
    F1nut wrote: »
    Mhmm.....fyi, it doesn't go right into viral pneumonia

    OK......it does much more often than basic flu. The person's immune system goes int a cytokine storm which makes the pneumonia even worse. That's why Italy's hospitals are being overwhelmed and they are letting people with strokes etc., basically go untreated except for oxygen masks. They are scrambling to convert many more spaces into ICU's basically and don't have enough respirators to go around.
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  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    As a side note, it is interesting how bad Italy and Iran were hit early.
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  • verb
    verb Posts: 10,176
    Thanks Tom, it's crazy to see how some folks are behaving. Michigan declared a state of emergency, not sure exactly what that means.

    My work has further implemented some precautions. Any meeting over 30 people must be conducted on line. Conference rooms must be sized such that it is twice the capacity of expected attendees.

    Further travel restrictions. Virtually all travel is suspended, except deemed critical, and must be approved at a VP level.

    And, people are encouraged to work from home. I personally like that one, as I can wear my pajamas all day now! Video conferencing notwithstanding, of course! :smile:
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 24,906
    edited March 2020
    Exactly what you should do... I have tried to consolidate my trips out of the house and I take my boy out less than I did before. Open air parks at times when I know less people will be there and such, but other than that, business as usual.
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  • daddyjt
    daddyjt Posts: 2,279
    edited March 2020
    verb wrote: »
    My behavior has not changed, other than being more aware. I continue to remain calm. I will continue to monitor, and be vigilant.

    And that right there is exactly what most people should be doing.
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  • xschop
    xschop Posts: 4,493
    Going to pickup a couple Ban-Mi fire sandwiches to go with the Coronas. Should be an amazing natural virus deterrent.
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  • codycatalist
    codycatalist Posts: 2,662
    There are 6 cases within 50 miles of where I live. My employer has discussed work from home measures but hasn't officially sent out the word.

    I already work from home one day a week and am fully prepared to handle that scenario, just becoming impatient. When I make my commute I get closer to the city center and the population increases drastically. I really don't want to head over to this side of town anymore.

    I'm not overly paranoid but I would like to take my own measures as I see fit within reason.
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  • verb
    verb Posts: 10,176
    Thank you for the explanation! :smile:
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  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    1200 cases Wednesday (3/11) night.
    BlueFox wrote: »
    This was on another forum, and I assume it is accurate. Basically, it shows exponential growth of the virus infections.

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