What pisses me off....Power cords

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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 14,560
    That could be opening up a can of worms. I guess I could star ground them...

    We shall see. I have other projects I am working on at the moment.

    Tom
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    ~ I have found excellence ~

    ~ The best way to enjoy digital music reproduction is to never listen to good analogue reproduction ~

  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 24,676
    For me it has worked out well
    - Not Tom

    "No, that's silly talk. Dude, you can't possibly be this audio dumb so quit the act." - Doro
  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 14,560
    What configuration did Russ or Garrett configure the grounds? I don't have any ground loop issues now....do NOT want to introduce one either. That's a headache I'd rather not explore.

    Tom
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~

    ~ I have found excellence ~

    ~ The best way to enjoy digital music reproduction is to never listen to good analogue reproduction ~

  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 14,670
    VR3 wrote: »
    You should add 3 dedicated circuits

    This works so well me. One circuit for the source gear, and a separate circuit for each amp.

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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 24,676
    I would have to let russ chime in but I have never experienced any grounding issues
    - Not Tom

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  • lightman1
    lightman1 Posts: 10,671
    treitz3 wrote: »
    What configuration did Russ or Garrett configure the grounds? I don't have any ground loop issues now....do NOT want to introduce one either. That's a headache I'd rather not explore.

    Tom

    All common at the panel board.
  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 14,560
    That sounds like you star grounded it. You didn't connect the grounds in series, you ran from each outlet separately to the panel?

    Tom
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~

    ~ I have found excellence ~

    ~ The best way to enjoy digital music reproduction is to never listen to good analogue reproduction ~

  • lightman1
    lightman1 Posts: 10,671
    That's a big 10-4
  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 14,560
    Good deal, thanks Russ.

    Tom
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~

    ~ I have found excellence ~

    ~ The best way to enjoy digital music reproduction is to never listen to good analogue reproduction ~

  • Viking64
    Viking64 Posts: 5,579
    When I did mine, I isolated the grounds by extracting the bare copper wires from each Romex® run (before they entered the panel box) and connecting them to a clamp attached to a copper plumbing pipe.

    The neutral bus and the ground bus were connected to each other in the panel box with a bonding strap, and I wanted to separate them. There was a noticeable difference in the noise floor, not to mention the greatly increased bass response when my power amp had its own dedicated 20A circuit.
  • Viking64
    Viking64 Posts: 5,579
    msg wrote: »
    Now that we have this settled, can someone post that video again of the guy throwing one of Tom's speakers across the driveway?

    Eye seent dat wunce.
  • msg
    msg Posts: 6,597
    Lol, but you're my favorite person, Tom.

    Still too soon?
    I disabled signatures.
  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 14,560
    Yes. It's only been a decade. Damn.

    Tom
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~

    ~ I have found excellence ~

    ~ The best way to enjoy digital music reproduction is to never listen to good analogue reproduction ~

  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 24,676
    That picture will be worth millions in the future as a Masterpiece
    - Not Tom

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  • verb
    verb Posts: 9,912
    msg wrote: »
    Now that we have this settled, can someone post that video again of the guy throwing one of Tom's speakers across the driveway?

    I must've missed that! That sounds terrible. Please re-post! :smile:
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  • msg
    msg Posts: 6,597
    Was it just a still?!? I can't remember now. All I remember is dying laughing.
    (for @Viking64 ) I letterally had to be recessitated.
    I disabled signatures.
  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 14,560
    Now you are REALLY not my favorite person!

    Tom
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~

    ~ I have found excellence ~

    ~ The best way to enjoy digital music reproduction is to never listen to good analogue reproduction ~

  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 14,560
    VR3 wrote: »
    That picture will be worth millions in the future as a Masterpiece

    So long as I get royalties? I'm game.

    Tom
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~

    ~ I have found excellence ~

    ~ The best way to enjoy digital music reproduction is to never listen to good analogue reproduction ~

  • verb
    verb Posts: 9,912
    edited December 2019
    OMG! That's terrible! Lol! I mean wow, that's too bad. So sorry for your loss. :smile:

    Newbie question - Who are the 2 gentlemen in the pic?
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  • verb
    verb Posts: 9,912
    OMG Tom - what a story! I really do feel for ya! When the Mrs and I carried the SRS's down into the basement, I was struck with fear that something would happen.

    Not sure if I met James. What is his name here on CP? Poor guy.
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 14,560
    He has only posted here a couple of times. I don't recall his moniker but I do believe it was JamesS. He was one of the owners of the original Carver Audio forum. (Him and his father, Dave Sauter)

    Tom
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~

    ~ I have found excellence ~

    ~ The best way to enjoy digital music reproduction is to never listen to good analogue reproduction ~

  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 46,117
    That's 350lbs. of James hitting the ground, made a mess of one knee. I came out of the cabin to see what was going on and Tom asks me if the speaker is repairable....I think I laughed.
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 22,982
    What happened to the Carver audio forum. I went there but it is gone now...
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 24,676
    Looks active to me?
    - Not Tom

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  • BlueBirdMusic
    BlueBirdMusic Registered User Posts: 1,549
    Tom, I love your speaker story.

    I made my own copy of the picture and your words to relive as needed.

    The photo is one in a million.

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  • joecoulson
    joecoulson Posts: 4,944
    So classic. Really is a one in a million pic.